We are all jolly well going to smack the rat this month and grow a baby and we'll brook no argument. And probably eat some cake too.

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Ladies....begin.

I luff you lot :)
We need birthday cake!

Happy Birthday Maybe Impressed with your DH making you a Balinese supper!

Congratulations DrWhimsi great news, must be such a relief!

Sorry about BFN Sweetie could still be early, not over 'til af shows her ugly face up!

Sorry about AF Bean but day 1 of your pregnancy!

Welcome Green you're in the right place now but so sorry to read you've had such an awful time of it.

Little I am feeling very positive for you, where are you now in your cycle? tempted to test?

So who is next to test? is it Beedle? how are you doing love?

Hope everyone else is doing well!

We were at my nieces 3rd birthday party yesterday and it just reinforced how much I really want kids, got asked by someone aren't you next? Which I didn't mind at all as he's lovely but felt like saying yes it should be me next, please brook no argument on my behalf!!

CD17 here so hoping i'm popping today/tomorrow!

Happy Birthday Maybe hope the dinner was lovely.

Sorry the evil witch got you Bean, but don't give up hope yet

Well I was going to test today but I wimped out after my temp dropped. I'm sure AF is just around the corner so I couldn't face seeing a BFN. However in the spirit of brooking I will test tomorrow if she hasn't arrived :) and due to my short cycles I still have time for a pre-Christmas BFP even if she does arrive

Its really wet and windy here today so I'm making soup and then I think we'll snuggle up with a DVD in front of the fire :)

Gosh have I didn't realise how many cycles along you were. I feel a bit silly to be grumbling about being on cycle 10-or-so here I'm brooking your DH's hormones sort themselves out, and for a well-deserved Christmas bfp!

Happy birthday maybe! How was your meal?

Beedle what soup did you make? I looove soup :d

Yesterday's fish risotto was delicious ? DH was quite disappointed there wasn't any left when he got home from work at 10. In fact it was so nice that I went back and bought more fish so I can have it again tonight. I also bought Hugh FW's Vegetable cookbook as a good-weight-loss treat and I'm really impressed. I've already made his squash and cannellini bean stew for lunch today and it was divine (though I did add a tin of tomatoes and a squeeze and lime juice).

Whilst there, I also bought a box of first responses - I'm planning to test tomorrow (will be 11dpo). I know it's cheaper more sensible to wait for AF on Thursday, but last month I found AF's appearance easier knowing a few days in advance iykwim. I could sort of prepare myself for it (coz lets face it, AF is horrible enough on its own without the associated miseries). Mega cramping today, kept expecting AF to turn up even though it'd be early but nothing yet.......

Yes I have become something of a veteran round these parts....I think anything after a few months is tough when ttc. I remember being convinced I was upduffed cycle#8. I sobbed when af arrived :( Getting past the year mark and having to go to the docs was bad but the worst was 18 months. My GP was like 'oh I'll refer you but 80% of couples conceive within a year and 90% within 18 months so you may well get pregnant before the appointment'. Getting to 18 months means you're in that crappy 10%.
Now it's been so long I'm not certain how many cycles it's even been. I stopped taking the pill Christmas Eve 2009. But hey Ho, onwards and upwards. Now we know why and things are reversible. We are very fortunate to have that.
Obviously I'm already pregnant now!
pops when is the evil witch actually due? You know testing at 11dpo isn't actually going to tell you anything?!

I'm not as far down the line, but I really do know just what you mean by the crap 10% - all the couples in our very large families (I'm the youngest of 5, DH eldest of 7) got pg on the first go or accidentally and I feel like an utter failure even making it to ten months. But it really is so, so positive that they've work out why you're not conceiving - onwards and upwards is right! You'll be upduffed in no time at all :)

AF due Thursday am, though sometimes I spot the day before - so testing Mon will be enough to convince me I'm not pg and let me down gently (this is the theory, anyway). But in the unlikely event it's a false negative, I'll just celebrate madly and tell myself I was silly to test early lol :o

Hello you lot

Have - also feeling a little ashamed at my minge-whingeing, given your 2-year battle agains AF and her wicked forces. I'm not sure what your diagnosis is/was but I hope this is your time now and it will all be over soon with a victorious BFP.

Pop - I think there's a polite suggestion that you wait to test even though we know those last few days in 2ww are an utter shit of a killer. I have to say yesterday - after getting to 17dpo - did not feel pretty but I was consoled by not testing too early. Still - whatever works best for you. It's awful that you should think yourself a failure but I understand how tough it all must feel with everyone dropping blood-realted sprogs all around you. You are young I and will have a lovely family - it's just proving a bit harder to get there.

Thanks all round for general commiserations and suggestions of a helpful long LP. Unfortunately I think my time might be up though. The next 6 months I suspect will make or break this longing for another DC.

Solars - hope the party was fun if not a reminder of the urgency of your desires. Enjoy the SWI.

Lots of love to the rest of you and see you in a few days.

Hey brookers,

Sorry about AF Bean, heres some homemade shortbread to ease the discomfort.

Congrats DrWhim hope you have been celebrating all weekend!

Happy Birthday Maybe hope you and DH had a lovely meal & Otis behaved himself

Hello Have nice to see you back. Am glad things are finally moving for you and DH. Here is to your very overdue BFP

I've been ttc for 14 months now. I can honestly say it's been hard from about 4 months in, at times it seems worse than others (hitting the year mark was very hard). It's just so horrible at times, I don't wish these feelings on anyone BUT it is very hard when it happens so easily for some people.

We were out with some friends on Friday. They got married in September and they have clearly been trying since then. They have just found out that a couple who where at their wedding are pregnant. The girl seemed very sour about it and said they are not even married yet it should be us! I nearly exploded with "try waiting a year" luckily I managed to keep my thoughts to myself!

Oh and Little congrats on the longer cycle. Any news?!

Beanie DH has been stressed for a long time. His sa came back low, blood tests showed high prolactin hormones. Trying to establish what caused it - he's on pills for the stress, not sure if that caused it, he's stopping them and if its not them, they will give him meds to treat, hence the brooking!
Howdy cupcakes, I do luff that name :)

Like I say Have - it feels a bit wrong to be upset by secondary infertility as you guys have had a lot to deal with. Let's hope that they sort your DH's stress levels and that the BFP comes along asap. Well done Cupckaes - you are better for not having a go a the pregnant people, but it's not easy to show restraint. It's amazing how insensitive folk can be.

Ah let's not make it a competition of who is worst off did you not see the aibu Fred that went mental? secondary infertility is still terrible, it's just different. I'm brooking for all of us. We all deserve a baybee.
So pop is testing next yes? Anyone else due to confirm?

Have so sorry I missed out on mentioning you earlier, was meant to write something but when I'm offline for even a day this thread moves so fast when I get back on and go through everyones post my old brain doesn't quite remember everything I'm not that far behind you in terms of months of ttc so know how pants it is! We will get there, it must be so nice to have a plan of action at least. Will be B*rooking.No.Argument for your christmas bfp :)

Beedle still have everything crossed for you.

Bean hope you're not giving up just because of your age, until you've had all tests done and they actually tell you there is an unfixable problem you shouldn't give up, well that's what I think anyway. Lots of brooking for you!

Cupcakes good for you, but I know how hard it can be!

Waves to Pop and everyone else! By the way any symptoms Pop

Yeah totally agree Have I think it sucks for anyone when you ttc for more than a few months whether you already have dc or not. What I meant was for me personally I have had ups and downs during ttc. At the moment am feeling quite good about it all but a few months ago was very depressed. So I didn't want Bean or Pop to feel they haven't been trying for long enough to feel fed up.

Its all irrelevant anyway cos we are ALL getting upduffed this month!!!

Ooh Beedle completely missed your post before. Have got everything crossed for you

I did see that thread, was very sad. I shed a tear or hundreds reading that

YEs - super brooking. I do believe Pop will be the earliest to get her BFP - Pop I hope I didn't put you off POAS/piar btw. Just concerned that you could get a false result... BROOKING for you and your lovely DH.

Solars - you're right and you are good to stay + re' age. Tests. Just feel so frightened at the mo' of hearing the worst; quite irrationally so. But the age thing is a lottery - you can be fertile into your 40s and infertile in your 20s. Etc. I hope the chlomid is going to kick in for you. I'd be interested to know what led to you being offered C in terms of diagnosis as I think this was discussed just before I joined here. Sorry that you've had such a long wait too. Has to be a BFP coming your way. xxx

Hi all

I am so sorry, I am not ignoring you all but am back at work tomorrow so a bit self absorbed.

Lots of love and brooking to you all.

It is bloody hard, this TTC malarky. As you know it took 17 months to conceive DD, referrals, tests and the mc.

So I empathise totally. But I also know how lucky we are to have her.

Hope I am saying the right thing, and making sense.

We are right back into the SWI and the OPK had a darker line today so here's hoping.

Looking forward to all the news tomorrow.

Much love xx

I have also taken the liberty of starting a new thread