July 2012 flight - continued...

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How gutted to log on and find that someone had beaten me to the 1000 post and I couldn't update on the old thread.

Particularly as I got my BFP last night!!! I'd had two BFNs last week and was expecting AF to arrive while on holiday but it never came... Got more and more convinced that I was pg (feeling a bit sick too) as the weekend went on and literally tested within 10 mins of arriving home. Poor DH was still unloading the car as I greeted him at the door with my pink line!

Very excited although a bit apprehensive too. Really want to tell everyone but obviously don't want to this early so am REALLY pleased I have all you lovely ladies on MN to share with.

I was too excited to do more than skim the last few pages on the last thread but did see there had been several other BFPs so congratulations to all those too!

festie sounds good to me - i really think you should test, even if it's BFN now, with those symptoms its looking good!!

Loulou i know exactly how you feel!! Take some time out and come back and regale us with Xmas stories when you are ready!!

As for me, temp dropped dramatically this morning, still no sign of ov, so I am sorry to say that I am going to bow out of TTC until the New Year, just do not need the stress of it all this close to Xmas when I have a thousand other things going on. By the looks of things, i just don't ov, so I am hoping that the Gyneacologist can help, although I am concerned that he might just tell me to come back in 3 months when I have been trying for a year (will only be 9 months in by my appointment!) I am feeling a little bit low and i shouldn't, it's bloody Xmas after all, but I just have this niggling voice in the back of my head telling me that it's never going to happen and that I should be happy with my lot, but i don;t have any DC to be happy with

I will pop in to see how you are all fairing and to see some more of those festive BFPs coming through, but for now adieu!!

Thanks for all the support, comments and laughs - will maybe see some of you in the New Year!!! xxx

loulou and moo, I understand why you feel the need to take a back seat for a bit; it will drive you scatty if you let it. Do enjoy Christmas though - have a lovely lovely time, and here's to a Big Fat Positive New Year (in all ways).

Moo I completely get where you're coming from- if your body's not giving you any signs of ov then it's only natural to feel like it's never going to happen. But look at it this way - you've had an ultrasound in which nothing came up - your ovaries are looking good girl, and you've got a gynaecological appointment in the New Year, where I'm sure they can throw some light on why you don't appear to be ov-ing and help fix it - I've heard amazing things about Clomid, for example. A friend of mine was TTC in her 40's and wasn't Ov-ing, went on Clomid and conceived.

Hi count - sounds like you're getting into the Christmassy swing of things, glad to hear that even in the throes of AF you're still thinking positively.

Egg emo can mean pg too remember! I always get well over emo when I'm pg - all those hormones!!

Notin - so we both ov-ed early?!! Don't know if that's a good sign, but very glad to have a testing buddy!!

Lil - how's it going?! Have you tested yet??!!!

Well this time last month (7dpo) my temp plumetted and AF started 5 days early! Today my temp is still high, so even if I don't get my BFP this month, at least my cycles are regulating.

Lots of to those who are low and lots of all round. You guys are all ace; I've never felt so close to a group of people I haven't met before - which is sickeningly corny, but true!!

Congrats Glimpers! Woop!
Hopefully as everyone says, it'll be opening the floodgates for a nice rash of BFPs.

My parents came for a just less that 24 hour visit (well, present swap) so it was lovely to see them and the dog (not so much for DH, he hates dogs).

Festie and Kitchen, you're due around the same time as me!
Kind of hoping I'll just be laughing gaily away at Christmas, enjoy boxing day, and then say "hang on a minute, where's my AF?"
I especially don't want AF while at FiL's, since his plumbing is so irksome you can't flush tampons, so you have to put them in the bin. Ick!

Loulou and Moo hope you don't stay away too long.

Am supposed to not be doing any more DIY, but...
The bedroom isn't quite finished, so we just have towels trapped in the bottom half of the windows, and there are gaps at either side, so anyone walking past might get a cheeky glimpse off boob or downstairs- esp. since it's my side of the bed near the windows!
When DH is back at work on Tuesday, might go get curtain poles and fix them up.

FX everyone for good news, be it well timed SWI, ov, or some nice things to SS, or a BFP. X

Well I tested this am and got a BFN but AF has still not arrived and now I'm feeling nausea (sp?) - could I actually be? The one month I thought I had no hope?!? Getting my hopes up a bit which is prob a bad idea as was very chilled about AF arriving and will now be upset about it just before christmas.

festie that sounds very promising, fx Glimpers has started a craze of BFP's

lou and moo I had to step back too a few months ago so know how you feel, it helped me and I hope to see you back again soon. Have a wonderful christmas and hope that we have a postive fresh start in the new year

Rusulka that sounds like the best way to get a BFP - so hope it happens for you. (I am assuming you will stop hammering, stripping and painting long enough to eat your turkey )

kitchen well done on the santa run, I'm always dead impressed with anyone who goes running - I just cannot enjoy it!

egg any af or lack of news?

count glad your feeling christmassy, loving all the festive spirit now I've finished school.

First of all, congratulations Glimpers! And bye for now Mooley...make sure you come back soon, don't give up hope, please!

I am up super early as for the second day in a row, my DP has decided to go the loo less than hour before I'm due to take my temperature and wake me up. I am so annoyed...I had a temperature spike 3 days ago and still haven't been able to find out if it is a one-off or a more sustained pattern can be seen. I have my day 21 blood test tomorrow so it is really important for me to know if I have ovulated for sure. I could also have done without the duvet pulling and huffy turning over making it impossible for me to get back to sleep.

Maybe I'm being silly for being upset, but I explained to him what the problem was yesterday, and reminded him before we went to sleep so in the absence of another solution, looks like I'll be in the spare room tonight.

This is also the second time I've tried to post this (computer decided to turn itself off for updates) so it really looks like it isn't going to be my day!

Disco it sounds like it's really not your day with technology! I can def understand you being annoyed with your DH, ttc is so hard and so time specific that it's easily messed up, and especially after you talked about it last night. Have you spoken about it this morning? Hope your day gets better and you get some positive results from the tests.

Well at 5 days late and just as I was allowing myself to get excited and think this might actually be it (even though it was tight on ov / swi front) AF has arrived this morning in full flow Not really feeling anything atm apart from a little resigned. Just want AF to be over (hopefully before christmas day,) have a chilled christmas and start a new shiny cycle in which I get my BFP and perfectly timed mat leave!! THAT is my NY resolution!!!

Off to do the last minute christmas shopping and had better get DH something else as was starting to imagine him opening a positive CBtest!!

Oh lil I'm sorry. I hate the way our bodies mess with us, it's just not fair. I've pretty much convinced myself that I'm pg, so if/when I'm not, I'm going to be so gutted. Only 8dpo, so can't test yet either!

Still, as you say, get af out of the way before christmas, have a fab time and get that bfp in the new year!

disco totally get your frustration. The trouble is, men don't really get it sometimes I don't think.

rusulka I don't blame you wanting to get curtains up if you're potentially flashing your parts at all and sundry!

Fx to all of us soon to be testees. I hope I don't go nuts waiting in the meantime!

I'm in the doghouse this morning.

DH woke up late, frantically tried to get ready only to realise his new suit I got last week hadn't had the tags taken off, manically transferred his pocket contents and ran out of the door effing and blinding that he was going to miss the bus, then rang me as he ran down the road to say sorry, started nearly sobbing as he saw the bus was already THERE and then fortunately the driver waited for him, and it was while I was hanging on so he could get his bus pass out of his wallet that I realised I still had it from the weekend...
Whoops!

So that's £4.50 we didn't need to spend, and I'm almightily f**ked off about it.

Was going to try and make it up to him by getting curtain poles up, but I've been looking online and can't find any I like. Grr.
I guess I'll iron his shirts so he doesn't have to, that'll cheer him up. And maybe do bratwurst for tea, although I already told him no since he had it twice last week already... trouble is he pleads for it!

Enough about me and the ridiculous things going on my life.

Lil sorry the witch got you. I hate getting false hope like that! And yes, I will stop the DIY long enough to enjoy Christmas properly. Only we won't be having turkey, as FiL is getting venison again... I don't really like it, but everyone else does, so never mind. And that's an awesome way to give happy news! I want to do that now. I would put it in one of those long jewellery boxes so it looks really posh and exciting, lol.

I feel like I've probably missed the boat again this month.
Twice now since we've been trying I've had cramps that coincided with a temp drop at 5dpo, which I've taken to be implantation, though it has been followed by AF anyway. Nothing like that this month, and no s to s whatsoever, so I guess I should brace myself for feeling crappy at Christmas... and hope it's subsided to a reasonable level by the time we go for a day out to Canterbury on the 28th.

Another cuppa I think, and consult my mum on the finer points of whether my curtain poles should match the floor, the door hooks, or neither...

Incidentally Glimpers I meant to ask- did you have any symptoms at all? Would be good to know. Also, regarding the possibility of twins, think of it as buy one get one free on the labour front- it's more efficient that way!

Can you tell I'm sat at home not doing anything and trying not to think about the tin of quality street?
Better iron DH's shirts...

Aw, Liliana that sucks big time. If only it was possible to stop yourself from being hopeful, but I don't think anyone would blame you being excited being five days late and all. Still as you say, perfectly timed maternity leave is a prize worth waiting for! Thanks for being kind to me about my silly daft issue.

Festie hey, you might be pregnant! Don't feel downhearted, at least Christmas preparations will take your mind off the 2ww. DP does kinda get it now, after I've said that these are the three most important temperature taking days of the month.

DP and myself had a argument discussion and a lot of issues have now bubbled up and been dealt with on both sides, so that's good.

Right, as soon as the man mending my oven finishes up we can trim the tree properly whilst listening to carols. Then I can resume my holiday TV crime fest (so far today I have cast an eye over Sherlock Holmes, Miss Marple, Columbo and now it's Midsomer Murders. No Poirot though, which is a terrible oversight).

I think I'm going to test on the 30th (if AF hasn't arrive first) so I can either have a brill start to the New Year or drink myself happy on NYE...

Moo sorry to see you go, hope it helps and you feel better in the new year!

Liliana arse, bloody hag, it was all sounding so hopeful!

Festie fingers crossed you are right and that disappointment never comes! I also have loads of symptoms, but nothing I haven't had other months when I have not been pregnant!

Rusulka I liked your idea of being so busy enjoying yourself over Christmas you didn't even notice if AF didn't turn up, this would all be so much easier if we felt like that! I hope you are back out of the doghouse now, it doesn't sound like you had a good morning!

Disco charting does seem to be such a precise art, I did it for one month to see if I was actually ovulating, and found it almost impossible. Glad you and DP have cleared the air though.

I am in the worst bit of the 2ww now, that bit where I usually drive myself nuts convincing myself I am pg. Not doing too bad so far this month though. I am managing to convince myself that it is not likely I am, but it would be a nice surprise if it did happen. Hopefully if and when AF turns up I won't get too down about it

Oh my it's been a terrible two days! I have been bed bound. I completely consumed with back ache and can hardly stand. Not only that doped up on muscle relaxers and painkillers. No AF yet but I'm hoping that I am just stressed, I hate taking meds but can't move :(

Sorry about the moaning I'm just so low tonight. It takes me ages to make it to the bathroom... Wish me luck to mend before xmas

Hi ladies.
moo will be sad to not see you on here but I can totally understand where you're coming from.
Rusulka my only symptom was really sore boobs, but I get that pre-AF anyway, this just carried on for longer than 3 days. I also fell asleep at work on Thursday but then it's a standing joke in our house that I could sleep on a galloping hedgehog other than that, 5 days late before I POAS!
egg can totally sympathise with back pain, I've got a prolapsed disc and can normally be found taking Tramadol trying to manage the pain. How are you feeling today?
Well, have been struck down with this vomitting bug DD started Sunday night, I started yesterday evening and DH got up feeling rotten this morning hopefully we'll all be better for the big man to come on Saturday night
Sorry for anyone I've missed!

Egg sorry to hear you have been laid up. Hope you are feeling better by Christmas.

Disco DH was the same last night, stealing all the covers. I was more annoyed that I would be getting cold and my temp changing- I don't tend to worry if I wake up and doze off again, as I try not to move- I'm usually too tired to anyway!

Kitchen I'm at the same point too. My temps are staying high, but this morning I woke up with a funny taste at the back of my throat and now I'm hoping it's not whatever my mum's been ill with- the last thing I need are sicky temps giving me false hope at the end of my cycle!

I'm trying not to think about it. Being on here isn't helping!
No symptoms to spot here, but I guess there's always a chance.

Miss you, Loulou and Moo. We shall have to start turtling to fill the hole of CP updates (no pun intended)

disco - glad you sorted stuff out with your old man! Always good to clear the air when you're feeling narked about something. My dh always seems to swear blind that he hasn't noticed when I'm pissed off about something. So either he's completely oblivious, or he's talking out of his arse!

kitchen - you and me both. 9dpo and not sure how much longer I can hold off testing. I've had every bloody symptom in the book. Frankly I need a good slapping!

egg - sorry to hear you've been laid up. Backs are no fun when they go wrong. Hope you're up and about soon.

Hey glimpers - how's it going?! Hope you're over the worst of the bug. You getting any pg symptoms proper now?!

Oh rusulka another mentalist after my own heart! I figure some of us have to get BFPs right? Law of averages and all that. It's been a bit bare lately. Maybe glimpers has started a rash of them. God, I really need to get something else to obsess think about!

Festie I know what you mean!

I just had my first cup of tea of the day and when I finished I felt sick. Naturally I leapt on it as some sort of sign, but knowing my luck the milk's just slightly off, lol!

My DH can usually tell when I'm pissed off, but only because I go from being laugh-a-minute cuddly to silent, remote and grunty. Not very good at hiding my emotions!

Trying to keep myself busy, as I'm sure everyone else in the 2ww is.
Going to try and coerce FiL to take me to Homebase for my curtain poles. And then to get my food shopping. In fairness, he and SiL are coming over tomorrow for a games day, so it's in his best interests to make sure they have something to munch on!

Hi all - just catching up after a busy few days! Moo and Loulou - sorry to see you go for a bit but totally understand why.

Glimpers - Congratulations!!! Finally another BFP!!

Right - definitely TMI but I'm going to ask anyway! After SWI I lie with a pillow under hips for at least half an hour, sometimes I fall asleep and wake up a few hours later and then pop to the loo, however, it seems no matter how long I do wait, gravity does its thing as soon as I stand up and I'm wondering whether this is a big issue? It wasn't as bad when TTC#1 so I'm sure birth has no doubt relaxed everything. Any advice? or excellent words of wisdom that confirm that this will make no difference?!?

Maisie from what I understand, sperm that makes it past the cervix does so at the point of ejaculation (shot through like a rocket, hehe!) so lying on your back isn't really necessary. Another reason it will all ahem exit your body is that when semen is first ejaculated, it's very viscous but after a while it liquifies. So I wouldn't worry at all. I do lie down for about 10 minutes after sex but that is because I'm naturally quite lazy

Egg and Glimpers I hope you both get better soon, Egg you sound like you are in absolute agony, and Glimpers vomiting viruses are awful, you have my sympathy.

I've spent all day tidying, it's taken ages! Mostly because I keep having rests to read or watch stoopid children's Christmas films on TV. I went for my day 21 blood test earlier (Ok, really day 27 and only 4 dpo) and I may get the results on Friday afternoon. Not sure if I want my suspicions that I have low progesterone levels confirmed, just so I know what the cause of my spotting before AF arrives but on the other hand knowing it is fine would also be good. I don't know!

Rusulka my DP isn't usually too bad about stealing the covers, but when we went to Germany on the weekend for some Christmas market fun we had a single duvet each which was odd at first but actually worked really well!

Right, off to marzipan the cake.

Thanks for that disco, it had made me feel much better!! On 2nd cylce cbfm now, last time had highs day 14 and 15 then 2 peak days and one more high day, we dtd on first high, both leaks sms last high and then af arrived day 26 surprisingly early which sounds like short lp. This cycle had highs day 15, 16, 17 and just got peak today day 18 so am wondering if its going to be a 28 day cycle this month? Who knows, we have dtd every high day and will carry on ed until.its back to low. Although its quite depressing when you've done it on all the right days but still don't manage it!! Hey Ho, time will tell I suppose!!

Right well I just could not stay away, you lot keep me sane and the last few days have made me realise all the support you offer as I have not stopped thinking of TTC despite my best attempts, can't talk to friends and DH just does not get it!! just want to thank you all for being there and i could not get through this without you all .

Well temps all over the place but boobs agony and getting worse!! Could be due AF but FF has clearly indicated no sign of ov yet so not convinced!!

lil sorry for the hag whore, just when we thought we had seen her off!!
Disco as I have learnt over the last few days, men can indeed be rubbish and just don't seem to get the emotional roller coaster this is!
egg sorry to hear about your back!! Hope you get better soon!!
Rusulka high temps and a bad taste sounds promising to me!! fx for you!
maisie normally for me leakage is just indicative of semen and not spermies, as the spermies will have made there way to the tubes!! I normally have leakage whether I get up straight away or wait a while!! I use to always do the whole pillow and legs in the air thing but made bo difference!!
festie and count hope all is well with you!!

Moo I love that putting your legs in the air made bo difference.

I don't think the bad taste is a symptom, I think my mum's given me her sodding cold, especially as I spent the night with a tissue bunged up one nostril to stop it running. And I'm all bunged up today, swallowing thickness and feeling sorry for myself.
Shame. Just as I was starting to get a little too over excited about these continuing elevated temps...

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...it may turn out to just be my body giving the germs what for.
Grump.

Anyway, glad to see you couldn't stay away, Moo!

Hey moo! Great to see you!

rusulka cold or no cold, still think your chart looks really promising!

Well bollocks is all I can say! Tested this morning (10 dpo) and BFN! Mind you, these ics I've got didn't give me a positive even when I was PG! And the other one I tried is a tesco and not that sensitive. Should prob try and get some frer or something or wait a couple more days

needless to say, had convinced myself this was my month! and dh is on the phone to a friend who has just found out she's pregnant despite the fact that she hasn't got a partner and wasn't trying, and she's after advice! Trying (and failing) not to be !

Ah well ladies, it ain't over yet, eh?!

You know, the more I think about it, it more I think perhaps it's not meant to be. I've already got children- I always got pg so easily, but this time it's just not happening.

Maybe I need to accept that my family is complete. Ok, dh and I don't have any kids together, but we do have great kids and although I would love a baby with dh, there are probably financial reasons why we shouldn't.

God, that makes me feel sad. But I feel just about ready to get of this sadistic roundabout. I don't think it's doing me any good.

Sorry chaps, needed to vent. I'll get over myself in a bit!

Right FRER BFN this afternoon, so that's me.

I'm done with it. Merry Christmas to all. Good luck with everything. Hope lots of you get your BFPs .

Xxx xxxx xxxx

Festie sorry to see you got a BFN, but I don't think it is over for you yet. Aren't you only about 10dpo? Bloody frustrating though innit!!

Rusulka just had a look at your chart, if you're not pregnant I'll eat my hat, it looks perfect! When are you going to test?

egg hope your back is on the mend!

Disco I hope the blood results come back OK tomorrow, let us know how you get on!

Hi to everyone else, I hope everyone is feeling as festive as possible with everything else that is going on!

I am fairly sure that once again this is not my month, I have all the usual symptoms of impending AF. looks like it will arrive as expected Saturday morning, oh well, at least I can drown my sorrows over Christmas! The more time goes on the more I think it is just not meant to be (Bit like you Festie) however this month I am determined not to get too down about it. I am very very lucky to have DS, and if I only going to end up with one child I will make the most of it!