kicked off so many buses!(Dec 11,May12 & June) i'm now a Pilot for July 2012!!!!

[Mama5isalive]

ok,ok i know its not over till i see that stupid hag the witch on her tampon/bodyform broom! but really not feeling very hopeful although not POAS and not due until next week!
but i'm on the runway so get your passports ready heading somewhere Hot in July 2012!

Just marked my seat on the Plane- so much nicer than a bus! AF got me today. Hi to everyone, especially those fellow June bus passengers!

BFP only First Class upgrades
icooksocks, TTC#4, CD1 - BFP

Necking a complimentary G&T and Waiting to POAS
GTR2882 (29) ttc #1 AF due 9th October but let's face it, she could turn up tomorrow - who knows!! Either way, it's not fun waiting!! Cycles are horrendously long (at least 57 days!)

Joining the mile high club for lots of SWI - EDor EOD
blonderedhead (35) ttc #1 AF due 18th October or possibly whenever Auntie bloody feels like it.
Loulou (27) TTC#1, AF due (19 October - but unsure of cycles so maybe later)
iloveberries (31) TTC #2, AF due 21/10 or 24/10 (I have 31/34 day cycle since coming off pill)
festiemum (38) ttc#4 AF due 22nd October
floralflora (39) ttc#3, AF due around 22-ish October
oggy24 (26) ttc #1 AF due 23rd October
DeeLite (37) ttc#2 AF due 23rd October
Mama5isalive (35) ttc3 CD10 - AF 23/24 Oct (31daycycle????)
crystaltea36 (27) ttc#1 AF due 26th October
Mummyin2012x (22) ttc #1 AF due 27th october
Puzzletree (34) TTC#3, AF due 27 October
nearlymumofone (really should change my name as i'm ttc#2 now) (34) AF due 28th Oct-ish....
BustAMove (37) ttc#3 AF due 29th October
Rubia (37) TTC #2, cycle 2 AF due Oct 30
Bluetinkerbell(28) ttc #3, AF due possibly 31 October, also depending on cycle length
MaccyH (36) TTC #1 AF due 1st November
Ilanthe (32) TTC #2 cycle 2 AF due 2 November ish
Grinningbee (40) TTC #3 AF due 5th November
TheCake (31) TTC #1, cycle 10, AF due from 7th November
Maisie55 (32) TTC#2 cycle 3 AF due 11 November

Will catch up with thread later, GTTR I'd def wait a couple of days and test again- you are naughty for looking at it later on (but I can't say anything as I've done the same- fishing one out of the bin to be precise)!

Hi ladies... Feeling a bit down, rubbish day at work :-( and even though it's my first properly ttc I just have a worry that I won't be able to get pg? Does anyone else feel like that? I don't know my body at all and haven't got a clue when I ovulate! My AF came on 27 september for three days flow, then spotting a bit, so I have been pretty much SWI'ing :) EOD, I am now on CD14 (am I understanding this right) and I have been doing OPK tests for three days now, should I have ovulated by now? I'm not 100% on the length of my cycles as I didn't note them pre ttc. I'm worried I've missed my ovulating? And I got the expensive cb OPK and only want to use 1 a day minimum, is it poss to miss my smiley face if I do it at the wrong time? Sorry for th rambling and thanks for reading

Oh 2012 I understand how you feel! Knowing your cycle length can help to determine when you would be ov'ing but if you go by the EOD rule then there will always be a fresh supply of spermies up there to meet the egg! It might be worth tracking your CM/CP and increasing SWI when you get watery or EWCM (unless your like me and don't really get any!) if you have a regular 28 day cycle then yes CD14 would be ov day, but this does vary depending on cycle length and external factors, stress being a biggy! I have such long cycles that I don't ov until CD50, and even then it's not a given!!

As this is your first month, I would try and relax and go with what feels natural!! I only chart because my cycles are so long but if they were shorter I would just be having SWI EOD!!

As for the OPKs, Is it the. Monitor or just the regular one? It is possible to miss the surge as you could test in the morning and nothing but surge later that night! By the time you test again the next day the surge may be over!

It might also be worth tracking your BBT as that can tell you when ov has occurred and even if your not successful this month it would give you an idea of what to look for next month :)

Don't be disheartened, we only generally have a 20% chance each month of conceiving! It will happen, it just might take a few cycles!!

Hope that helps a little :)

Mummy - as you are only 22 and it's your first month trying i wouldn't stress about it. CB OPKs are easy to miss the surge.... as GTR says just go for it every other day and you'll be PG in no time i bet!!!

good luck and try not to worry :)

Hi Cake. GTR this may well be promising! When are you going to test again? I am so rubbish that I would already have run out, bought more and tested. Really hope this is it for you! Your 20% statistic has made me feel a bit overwhelmed, and then even if you get pregnant everything has still got to work out. Makes you sometimes wonder how we're all here. Sorry, bit of a downer moment. On a brighter note SWI went ahead yesterday, night off tonight, then back on the case again tomorrow.

Thanks guys. Youve made me feel so much better :) think I will just stick to SWI EOD. Now I've bought the cb ov sticks feel as though I have to use em (and ido like POAS, just want to see a smiley face!!) it's just the normal sticks not the monitor.
Even weirder, is I've been getting shooting pains in my boobs, feeling quesy and my colleagues beef crisps and tuna sandwich were making me heave today! And smelt v v v strong. I couldn't be pg already could I? Think I'm just having phantom symptoms lol x

Festie- yes AF better stay away from GTR im in a real butt kickin mood, my day did not go well, my hairdresser was a no show and i just started to cry?????? ahhh dont you just hate it when not close people chat your business! it really winds me up!(pet peaveno1.)
Berries - enjoy USA come back with a big fat BFP!!!!!!!!
Maisie55 - Hope your DS get better real soon its really awful when your children are sick! apart from time off work to nurse them your in doors because they cant go out! big hugs!!!!
When im ov-ing i get spots on chin area so annoying really!

busta I've not got anymore tests! Have ordered some on t'interweb so will wait til they get here!! Have done some research and apparently superdrug tests are known for giving coloured evaps - I always thought that evaps were grey and that any colour present was from the antibodies on the test that can only react with hcg (am really clutching at straws here!!)

Still cramping and still no AF!!!

gosh this flight moves fast!
think I'm getting into my fertile period! excited will have to seduce DH tonight he won't know what's coming to him this week

Whoop!! Glad to see there is lots of SWI happening here!! Have a good feeling about this flight and want to see you all with shiny BFPs at the end!! :)

Oh GTR can you really wait til the internet cheapies arrive? You are very patient. I hadn't heard that about Superdrugs; generally they get positive reviews I thought. I still think it's sounding really positive for you, lady!

Hey Mama I've got two really horrible spots on my chin at the mo. I wondered if it could be ov!

Making DH have another go tonight, as I still have a bit of EWCM and my temp hadn't shifted this morning. He's not that impressed to be honest. He took his LBP, but said, "As your shoulder's better can you go on top? I'm knackered!" Who said romance was dead?!!!! :o

hi festie, blue and Gtr - well i def aint feeling positive this month only SWi once thur/fri and then ov pains rolled in on friday but no Swi knackered after all the flippin moving and unpacking still have loads to do!!!! so im sure im not duffed up yet, but not feeling to upset about it you never know it only takes one good sperm so hopefully its done!!!!!
ended up with another migraine tonite this is happening way too much now! argggghhhhhhhhhh!!!!
fingers crossed all who are in the 2ww - that we all get our bfp! roll on the symptom spotting - sore boobs, sickness, small pinkage cm, metalic tastes etc! well doing this from phone so sorry for mistakes!!!!
nite xxx

festie going to have to wait, have spent a fortune so far on tests and if that was a false positive I would rather wait it out than have the disappointment of yet another BFN!! I am generally not this patient and in the past would have flown to the shops to get another test but for some reason just think it's better to wait it out this time.

Oh Mama - as you said only takes one good spermie try and get another SWI in tonight maybe and see how you feel; just in case you ov late!! :)

I woke up to really bad cramps this morning, thought for sure she had come, was feeling really wet as well - but nothing!!! Am a little fed up with her now! Also feel nauseous and my back is so sore!! Thankfully have the doctors tonight so maybe he/she can put me straight!! Keep having to tell myself that i can't be pg because I am clearly not ov'ing, but there is a little voice in the back of my head saying maybe.........just maybe

Oh good luck at the docs GTR, I really hope you can get some answers.

Well, I'm utterly confused and a bit despondent tbh. Temp still hasn't shifted and I still have small amounts of EWCM, even though my cp is low and firm. Poor DH couldn't rise to the occasion last night even though he took a LBP - think he was just really tired, and this morning when we tried again, it just wasn't happening! Think I'm putting him under too much pressure; but if I haven't oved then the weekend's SWI could be too early and we might miss the egg! We've only got 1/2 a LBP left and he's not going back to the docs till Friday, so when do we use it?! Aaargh!

festie do you use FF? Could you post a link to your chart and I could have a gander at it? If you have had a drop in temperature then you need at least 3 days of sustained temp rise; sometimes you can see ov with a temp drop and then a couple of days later get another temp drop before it rises again. FF will not introduce the cross hairs until it sees this rise.

By the sounds of it, you have ov'd and the EWCM that you are seeing is just the remnants. Keep checking CM throughout the day to see if there is any change.

Hi all, been away for a few days but good to see things moving. GTR, your patience is incredible and you deserve a BFP for that alone! Fingers crossed for you anyway, does seem like this might just be your time...!

I don't know when I ov but think I am back to my regular 28 day cycle after cutting back on BFing my littlest so reckon it should be in the next couple of days. Don't know about this EOD thing though, DH is jumping me twice a day! We've been through some stressful stuff together recently though so it's partly the relief that's over and we did a bloody good job of being supportive of each other too, so feeling very loved up (and randy ;-)

Btw, anyone else watching Doc Martin almost entirely for the scenes with the cute baby?!

Oh GTR that sounds interesting... hope you do get some answers at the docs. Very good for keeping away from the sticks for a couple of days

Oh and I've always seen really good things about Superdrug tests (keeping up my role as chief POAS enabler :)) - but as you say, as the test was out for so long, it's most prob an evap line. I think best to see it as a definite BFN till you test next - then you won't be driving yourself crazy with what-ifs as there's no way of finding out more just yet. Keep us updated pleeease!

Mama sounds like you could do with a chill night after all that stress - esp if the migraines are hitting you. Maybe a bath/hot steamy shower, dinner and TV?

2012 glad you're feeling better now - some days you just feel blue and need a good night's sleep to recharge. Oh and I wouldn't stress about oving etc at all yet - it'll just do you more harm than good by stressing you out - that affects your cycles too. As GTR said, just look out for CM, CP etc and patterns in your cycle so that you look out for when ov is happening and try EOD and give it a few months at least before charting. That's what I've been doing and even though I didn't think I'd be able to pick up any signs after ages on the pill, they are gradually emerging (not all there yet but they're becoming clear!)

Saying that, I'm not sure what the hell's going on with me. Fairly sure I was oving on Fri/Sat as had lots of EWCM then. Now my CM's gone more watery but not thin. However, had some dull aches yesterday which could have been oving. Hmmm. Felt like the beginnings of AF. Did SWI on Sunday but didn't manage it last night (extreme tiredness!). Hoping if we DTD today and tomorrow at least that will help put my mind at rest. I just wish ov was clearer although I'm guessing that in a few months it will be as a couple of months ago I wasn't even having a cycle!

Wowzas, that was long! Right, off to get my precious morning caffeine injection :)

LouLou i don't know where this will power has come from tbh!! I am usually rubbish, I suppose it's the thought of seeing a BFN and having it confirmed. Just don't understand why I have not got AF yet though; I am not particularly stressed out or anything and I know that even if you don't ov you still get a breakthrough bleed at the time you would expect the witch and I haven't even got that!!

I have kept the test and periodically look at it, I also fished the Superdrug one i did on Friday out of the bin to check them, and that one has a definite grey/indented line where the pos would be so I know that it's an evap, plus i checked it on Saturday and there was no line whatsoever - but this one is thicker and pink, there is not denying that - if I knew how to post a picture I would so that you could see it but my IT skills do not stretch that far!!

As for ov'ing, I know what you mean - I wish there was a fanfare telling me that I am about to ov, go get some love I think if you get some SWI in tonight and tomorrow and then monitor CM etc over the next couple of days and if its back to creamy/sticky then there is not much more you can do :)

instructions glad that you are getting a lot of loving :) with all that SWI you have to get a sticky bean this month

GTR, I am so excited on your behalf. It's probably bad form to get someone's hopes up, but I had thought that you only get colour on a stick when the hormones are there so it's looking so so good! I guess the doctor will give you more answers this evening, good luck with that.

Just don't abandon us if you do get your BFP though. You are the CM guru!!

I hear where you're coming from GTR - I think I'm the same - I just don't ever expect to see a BFP. However, reading the rest of your message it does seem possible... Still, expect the worst and you can't be disappointed, eh

instructions do not fear - i need to make sure you all get your lovely BFPs so will be dropping in occasionally every day to see how you are all getting on!! I was actually going to the doc because i was worried that I was not ov'ing - last cycle was 57 days and it seemed to be going that way on this cycle but here I am on CD60 and apart from the cramps there is not even the hint of AF - i would only be 11dpo today if I did ov when I think i did and now wish that i had loads of tests because although it looks postive, I have been reading that some women got pink evaps on the superdrug tests; like you, i thought you only got colour if there was the hormone present otherwise it would be grey! Like i said before, my other test from Friday (i got over excited and decided to test ) is defintely grey and came up around 2 days later when the test dried. Yesterdays test is not yet dry though, so maybe that will also go grey

correction, i am 10dpo not 11 :)

Expecting the worst is definitely the sensible way forward. Unfortunately I'm not very sensible . I'm feeling ridiculously positive today, not about TTC particularly, I'm just happy with life!

DH and I still have difficult times ahead (manageable now though) but I've asked if he still thinks we can cope with another DC in the circumstances and got a resounding yes. Meant so much to me to have his confidence and feel we have such a strong relationship now. I think it really is true that what doesn't kill you, makes you stronger.

Mind you, read some terrifying stats today about likelihood of twins if a tall, over-35, BFing, folic-acid taking, dairy-eating mother conceives... Don't think I'll warn him though, in case he goes off TTCing!

Wow instructions twins hope that you get that sticky bean very soon and glad that things are sorting themselves out :)

Does anyone else feel that they spend so much time writing on these boards that they are going to start talking in acronyms!?! I am worried i am going to go into the docs tonight and end up with this sort of scenario:

Doc: What seems to be the problem?
Me: Well, I POAS yesterday and thought it was a BFP but now think it might in fact be a BFN. AF is late and my CM is creamy, my CP is a bit mushy and soft and low and I am not even entirely sure i have ov'd since coming of BCP. I am on CD60 and have AF type cramps and have never got a true pos on an OPK. Are there tests we can do?
Doc:

Doc Lol @ you GTR*, VG use of TTC abbrvs. What with your CP along with CM, regular POAOS and your DPO, an evap line is not possible, retest with a HCG sensitive CB digi with FMU and you'll find a BFP.

*sorry for the lol, I never normally use it honest!