kicked off so many buses!(Dec 11,May12 & June) i'm now a Pilot for July 2012!!!!

[Mama5isalive]

ok,ok i know its not over till i see that stupid hag the witch on her tampon/bodyform broom! but really not feeling very hopeful although not POAS and not due until next week!
but i'm on the runway so get your passports ready heading somewhere Hot in July 2012!

Wow, it's busy on here! Just updating the stats....

BFP only First Class upgrades
icooksocks, TTC#4, CD1, AF due again 31st Oct

Necking a complimentary G&T and Waiting to POAS
GTR2882(29) ttc #1 AF due 9th October but let's face it, she could turn up tomorrow - who knows!! Either way, it's not fun waiting!! Cycles are horrendously long (at least 57 days!)

Joining the mile high club for lots of SWI
blonderedhead (35) ttc #1 AF due 18th October or possibly whenever Auntie bloody feels like it.
Loulou (27) TTC#1, AF due (19 October - but unsure of cycles so maybe later)
iloveberries (31) TTC #2, AF due 21/10 or 24/10 (I have 31/34 day cycle since coming off pill)
festiemum (38) ttc#4 AF due 22nd October
oggy24 (26) ttc #1 AF due 23rd October
Mama5isalive (35) ttc3 CD10 - AF 23/24 Oct (31daycycle????)
crystaltea36 (27) ttc#1 AF due 26th October
Mummyin2012x (22) ttc #1 AF due 27th october
Puzzletree (34) TTC#3, AF due 27 October
nearlymumofone (really should change my name as i'm ttc#2 now) (34) AF due 28th Oct-ish....
BustAMove (37) ttc#3 AF due 29th October
Bluetinkerbell(28) ttc #3, AF due possibly 31 October, also depending on cycle length
Grinningbee (40) TTC #3 AF due 5th November

Thanks for that festie

2012 although every day would seem like the best way forward, you do need to give your OH time for his spermies to rejuvenate (so to speak), hence why it's more advisable to SWI EOD. I normally try to aim for EOD throughout the cycle and then every day around the time of ov (usually 3 or 4 consecutive days) - when i say i normally try, my cycles are 57 days long, so I chart every single way possible to make sure that I am getting the SWI in at the most opportune moment (it clearly is not working though, so i think that I must not be ovulating, at least that's my excuse). If i didn't then I would be completely knackered after the first couple of weeks!!!

and thanks for all the welcomes, how lovely!
iloveberries to answer your question about successful ttc, we were very lucky in the past and conceived the first month of trying. I don't know if it helped but both times we were very relaxed about ttc and a little drunk. Also had a miscarriage this year, and that pregnancy wasn't really planned, we'd just been slack with contraception. Have been ttc since the miscarriage in July with no luck so far, so not sure if our superfertility/luck has run out? we'll see....

My stats are: floralflora (39 ) ttc#3, AF due around 22-ish October

Bless you GTR for making me feel better about my scattiness .

I just POAOS and got a very definite positive but then found I've thrown away the bit of paper that came in the box, so not quite sure what that means . I'm thinking might SWI tonight, tomorrow and Thursday and then go back to EOD for a while??

Glad this list is getting busy. I refresh every hour or so, hoping there are more stories to read . Thanks for the company.

I refresh all the time hoping for more stories also :)

GTR -So assuming my ovulation is thurs - sun like the calendar says, then how many days would U wait to POAS?

For this month I am just going to assume my ov is thurs - sun, if AF does arrive then I am going in with other methods of tracking, what do you think is the best? Im not sure I would know the differences in my CM. :( don't feel as though iknow my body at all! :-(

Thanks for your advice, I really appreciate it!

Hi all, just jumped off the June bus and found this flight ready to depart to sunnier climes, how can I resist??! I can't believe there's 13 pages already, where have I been?!

stats: DS 22 months, first potty 'success' today! TTC #2, 2nd cycle, CD2.

Am giving CB ov kit a go this month, lured in by the smiley face! :)

floral a positive usually means that you will ov within the next 12-24 hours (depending on when the surge has been detected, but this is still a good rule of thumb) So if you SWI tonight (just in case you ov overnight) and then tomorrow (as the eggy will be wending its way down your tube) and yes the night after won't hurt. If you temp you could wait to see a temp rise and if so then you are officially in the 2ww (if you have 3 temp rises though). If not then maybe a few more SWIs just to make sure (in case you ov'd a little later than you thought!

Right you lovely lot, I am off to get some sleep and pray that my temp rises after this mornings disappointing dip!!!

2012 ov will only take place on one of those days - the calendar is just giving you a window of opportunity, as you will be fertile for around 5 or 6 days a month (usually a few days before ov, the day of ov and a couple of days after). If you ov on Saturday then Sunday would be 1dpo and you would be in your luteal phase which is normally anywhere from 10 to 14 days (14 being the usual) - it is normally recommended to test once AF has been MIA, but it is possible to get a positive as early as 7dpo (very rare) and most women get their BFPs at around 12dpo.

CM is really easy to track (as long as you are not squeamish) and generally goes from being dry (after AF and just before AF) to creamy (like hand-lotion) to watery (does what it says on the tin) to EW (again, has the consistency and look of egg whites) EWCM is the most fertile and usually means you are ov'ing.

Hope that helps :)

Would love to join you having just been kicked off the June bus by an early arrival from AF :(

My stats are:

MaccyH (36) TTC #1 AF due 1st November

Am abroard with work half of this month so may be limited opportunities for SWI but hoping the weekend before I leave will be just the right time & then should be distracted enough during the 2WW to not be looking for imaginary symptoms all the time.

floral sorry for the double welcome - like GTR I am scatterbrain central today. It's a wonder I've managed to turn the laptop on and get to MN today, I'm so useless. It's been one of those days when the best thing I can do is just go back to bed, get some sleep and wait for tomorrow to begin!! :)

Ohh lots of lovely new peeps to welcome into the fold. Welcome all (disclaimer now for patronising double welcomes )

festie I am particuarly liking the term fanny batter - in fact, I might start abbreviating to FB just to add another nice acronym onto the list!

GTR hoping for your temps to play ball tomorrow and show some kinda pattern. Jeesh, I'm thinking you should be getting some kind of stats qualification with all this charting.

I've updated the chart but rubia haven't popped you in yet in case you wanted to add your AF expected date so we can slot you in order

BFP only First Class upgrades
icooksocks, TTC#4, CD1, AF due again 31st Oct

Necking a complimentary G&T and Waiting to POAS
GTR2882 (29) ttc #1 AF due 9th October but let's face it, she could turn up tomorrow - who knows!! Either way, it's not fun waiting!! Cycles are horrendously long (at least 57 days!)

Joining the mile high club for lots of SWI
blonderedhead (35) ttc #1 AF due 18th October or possibly whenever Auntie bloody feels like it.
Loulou (27) TTC#1, AF due (19 October - but unsure of cycles so maybe later)
iloveberries (31) TTC #2, AF due 21/10 or 24/10 (I have 31/34 day cycle since coming off pill)
festiemum (38) ttc#4 AF due 22nd October
floralflora (39) ttc#3, AF due around 22-ish October
oggy24 (26) ttc #1 AF due 23rd October
Mama5isalive (35) ttc3 CD10 - AF 23/24 Oct (31daycycle????)
crystaltea36 (27) ttc#1 AF due 26th October
Mummyin2012x (22) ttc #1 AF due 27th october
Puzzletree (34) TTC#3, AF due 27 October
nearlymumofone (really should change my name as i'm ttc#2 now) (34) AF due 28th Oct-ish....
BustAMove (37) ttc#3 AF due 29th October
Bluetinkerbell(28) ttc #3, AF due possibly 31 October, also depending on cycle length
MaccyH (36) TTC #1 AF due 1st November
Grinningbee (40) TTC #3 AF due 5th November

Well I am completely fed up!! Temps lower today (although slept really badly last night!), cramping fairly bad now so think the witch hag whore has mounted her broomstick!! Don't think I'm ovulating, either that or I have a very short LP which gives me no chance of getting a sticky bean!! To make matters worse, family member posted her bloody scan pic of her 2nd on FB - due end of March (had a little cry at my lack of fertility) they weren't even supposed to be trying until last month :(

Gonna call the docs this morning and get checked out - something is going horribly wrong!!

Hey 2012 - EOD stands for every other day DPO I think this is days post ovulation and CM is cervical mucus.

There are varying views about whether sex every day or EOD is marginally better for conception. My belief is that you are more likely to get PG if you do it every day from 6 days before to 2 days after ovulation. BUT for some people this just isn't possible (kids, shift work etc) or enjoyable.

Having sex EOD during this period will still ensure there are lots of sperm there ready to meet the egg when she's released.

I have read conflicting evidence about whether it's better for the sperm to be released EOD or every day and whether it's better for the woman's body's natural lube to do it every day or EOD....

I think the reality is that lots of us want to enjoy the trying bit and EOD sex is fun and not a chore!! If you SWI EOD and then add in an extra one when you notice your fertile CM (google it or ask GTR!) then that will be your best shot i believe.

CD 15 here and looking forward to another SWI tonight :) Out last night for a few drinks and really enjoyed it, i don't think i can give up drinking while TTC!! I think I ov around day 20 so a while to go but who knows??!

Blue tinkerbell falling asleep on sofa with DD sounds soooo nice!

welcome to everyone else!

Morning lovelies

Sorry GTR you sound really cheesed off get thee investigated at the quack.

AF is in full swing here. She did indeed go into overdrive in the night . Ah well.

GTR I'm really sorry to hear that, I am going through the same thing in terms of temperatures having dropped again for the last couple of days following a 5 day rise. It is such a worry not knowing if all my bits are working properly and all this effort is going nowhere. Might as well have a gin and a cigarette and shag when I feel like it for all the good it's going to do if there's no bloody egg floating about.

Grr.

Sending good thoughts your way for any possible doc visit and hope crampy non-sleep goes away.

Thanks bee and blonde (and sorry for the hag bee) - I am a bit cheesed off - this is the 3rd time this cycle FF has told me I have ov'd and then bloody changed it's mind!!! With 57 day cycles and possibly a 10 day LP I am thinking that CD48 might have been ov day and have overriden FF to fall in line with this (i did get a pos OPK on that day - i think at least) I am due on 9th Oct so if it's a no show then something is up! I know that you can still have a bleed without ovulating as your body gears up to ov but the egg doesn't appear and then obviously needs to get rid of the lining in the usual manner, so a no show on the old hag would be interesting!!

I have dismissed this mornings temp because i have read that disrupted sleep can lower BBT and will try and make a concerted effort to sleep through the night tonight and see what happens in the morning.

Blonde what CD/DPO are you on?? I have tried the relaxed method before I charted and that clearly had no effect either!! Am off to give my ovaries another stern talking to!! :) Hope your body starts doing what its supposed to as well!!!!

GTR, sorry to hear that BUT remember that temps might not the be all and end all - your body might not be doing what you think it is... Definitely book yourself into the GPs for an appt.

I'll pass on the advice of a friend who had to wait months for help when TTC while knowing that she wasn't oving regularly - - if you are asked how long you've been TTC indicate at least 6 months or if poss 12 - this will give your case a bit more weight - otherwise apparently, you'll be sent away to return months down the line as you're still within 'normal' TTC timing... I wouldn't normally advocate jumping the queue, but if you know your cycles are not right and don't know what's going wrong then it could be worth doing, but just a thought :)

I had a really vivid dream that I gave birth without knowing I was up the duff. On my mum's cream sofa. With all the gory details starring. Haaa How wierd, too much reading about babies, moi...?!

Wow this thread is really moving fast! it must be because we are in the air and not on the stupid roads avoiding road works, speed humps, pot-holes, traffic lights, temp lights, and people walking into the road - means we can just get on with it all!!!!! we are cruising at a nice level here and it seems that we are all just chating amongst ourselves sharing stories and the Guru GTR is at her best!
Although that your body is playing about and i pray that gp shines some positive light on it so you dont think your out of the BFP game just yet!!!!!
positive thoughts bring positive sticks!!!!!!
well im doing the final lap around the cabin and seeing we have some new faces aboard Rubia & MaccyH welcome aboard you know the drill and all the info has already been handed out, asked the lovely cabin crew LouLou, Festie, as im now asking GTR to be a co pilot as shes soooooo good at all this stuff!!!!!!! while i just focus on getting the plane to hotter climate and all those wonderful BFP waiting to burst forth!!!!!!

Ohhhh seeing RLBF baby was sooooo lovely, but it was hard to know that if my bean was a sticky one i would of been 28 weeks now!!!
Its also nice to see some faces i know from other threads Blue this is it for us this is a short haul flight and if we all focus and put the work in < rolls up my sleeves and hitches up my skirt> we should all get BFP and this will be the best thread MN has ever seen in terms of all of us starting this journey together and all getting pregnant!!!!!!

Ohhhh i missed someone off Mummy2012 welcome aboard flight 092012

LouLou you are indeed correct and maybe i did ov and i've just been a bit restless the last 2 nights hence the low temps (prob a rash over reaction on my part just a bit frustrated this cycle!!) I will take on your advice though, we are technically in our 5th month of TTC, so adding an extra couple of months won't harm surely If I know that I am ov'ing at least then it's just a case of timing!! Maybe the pill is still having an affect and my body is just taking its sweet ass time adjusting!! Will see what the quack says!!

Mama5 WOOHOO promotion!!! YeeHaa!! I wil try my best to be a very good co-pilot sorry that seeing the RLBF baby made you feel a bit :( let's make sure that flight 092012 sees us all safely to BFPLand

Right i'm, off to see what CM/CP is up to :)

Yes, GTR just to echo Loulou, definitely bung on a few extra months (maybe you've been trying for nearly a year?!) cos they'll fob you off otherwise and you know that things aren't behaving as they should. The only way to be sure whether you're ov-ing or not is with a blood test from the docs! What's your GP like?

Oh Mamma5, I'm glad you had a nice cuddle, but sorry it made you think about your non-sticky bean. Have a nice !

Loulou Your dream sounds typical for someone obsessing thinking about ttc! :o

Blonde sorry your cycle's pissing you about as well. And hope the hag's on her way out bee.

Happy SWi-ing berries!

Hi Maccy

Yes GTR whack it up to 12 months if you can get away with it and get matters sorted.

As you say, it could be the pill still and your hormones balancing out - I fear this is also still the case for me - this month's cycle will tell. If I'm not sorted out yet I'll try some acupuncture and maybe a clearblue kit and if nothing a few months down the line then defs a trip to the GP... the things we have to do to get the blimmin hormones playing ball. They always seem to be right on time with the PMT rage though

festie have just changed GPs due to a moving from one of our offices and moving house so have only been to see the nurse for my initial check up (she seemed nice). My GP is male though (i can request a female) but might stick with the male to see what he says for now! Might go with the year thing then and see what they say (might say almost a year or 7/8 months!?!)

Thank you all

This flippin getting pregnant stuff is hard bloody work!!!!!!!
i remember getting pregnant when i was 20 and this was my first sexual experince i was in shock for months because i was 18 weeks!!!!!!!!!! when i found out!!!!!! DOH!!!!!!!! and the flutters i was feeling was my baby!!!!!! i had gain hardly any weight and looked the same apart from having a "hard" belly!
I just hope it not going to take me ages to conceive again because really the amount of times me ad DH used to do it we should have a football team right now! ahhhhhhhhhh well im off to spend the rest of my day packing up more stuff!

Right GTR. Just looked at the NHS website and unless you're over 35 (which you're not) they don't want to see you untill you've been trying for a year....

Quotey:

Around 85% of couples conceive naturally within one year of having regular (every two to three days) unprotected sexual intercourse. You should visit your GP if you have not conceived after one year of trying.

You should visit your GP sooner if:

<span class="italic">-you have any reason to be concerned about your fertility, for example, if you have had treatment for cancer</span>

- you are a woman over the age of 35

So, in conclusion - bump it up to a year! Good luck! xx