Brook No Argument, smack that rat and eat that pie. All those seeking pee stick endorsement welcome. AF keep out, stay out and bugger off for the next nine months

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New thread ladies, pull up a pew.

It was a double whammy this morning Farfalla - an internet cheapy, a Superdrug own brand (which I'd forgotten I had until cleaning out the wardrobe yesterday) and an OPK for good measure!

I would love to have either an April or an October baby, if I was being really very picky indeed. However, I'll take a June one if it's on offer!

Damn those blimin' sensible OH's. If you get an ironic BFP and a lovely June baby then the ££s will be the last thing on your mind!

Love it, 3 sticks in the ramekin!!!

Do you hide your antics from your DH? I know I have to as he already thinks I am a bit mentalist and then I worry he won't want to boff me anymore :)

DH has a point, if I do get updiffed, its likely to go the same way again so better just to wait it out and get a plan of action from the consultant. I know he is right deep down but still rues the day she married an accountant

Yes I do hide said antics from OH! I think he'd rather just know if I'm up the duff, rather than discussing wee and sticks etc with me :)

I do see your DH's point. Damn him!

Thank god for mumsnet, don't know what I do without you lot to vent

Amen to that.

Arg somebody PLEASE take Fertility Friend and its blessed charts away from me!!! I can't stop searching for charts like mine!!!

imps step away from the charts! don't be discouraged by the evil pee sticks, your lack of AF is the key thing fo shizzle :o

hope you are feeling better this morning scrambled

DH denied me SWI last night the cheek of it. He said I wasn't allowed to come in, change out of my nice dress and nice knickers, put on big pants and jeans and then try to demand swi... why ever not?!

"fo shizzle". I am going to have to get this into at least 4 conversations at work today!!

Cake your DH sounds far too fussy for his own good. It's not all frilly knickers and saucy brassieres in this game, oh no. Big pants and jeans will just have to do sometimes!

Hi all, thanks for the support. I'm feeling a little bit fragile at the moment, so will step away from the thread for a few days until I get my mojo back if that's ok.

Imps ah clearly those pee-sticks are defective. It's the only explanation.

See you all in a little while, when I expect an absolute slew of BFP's!

Hello Scrambled. Take all the time you need to pick yourself up. It's a tough business this TTC malarky.

In interesting developments, I've just had some teensy weensy bits of brown CM. This is consistent with the-day-before-AF-starting spotting. The interesting bit is that if AF does start tomorrow (which, given the cramps feels likely) this will be my second cycle in a row where my LP is 14 days, rather than the 11 or 12 that it has always been! Now, it cannot be any coincidence that for these two cycles I have properly properly cut down on alcohol - I have always been a bit of a drinker (30+ units a week usually (I know, I know ) but for the last two cycles I have reduced this to a maximum of 10 a week. This must surely prove beyond any reasonable doubt that booze = lower progesterone = not good for baby making. They can therefore cancel all of those expensive medical research studies - I am the only proof they need!

It is definitely no bad thing to have a 14 day LP rather than an 11 day even though it does make my long cycles even longer. Although I'd much rather have a BFP, I'll take a 14 day LP and a lovely OH who is properly on board for starters!

Oh scrambled I hope you're ok. We'll brook for you until you want to pick up those pom poms again

imps hope for some good news either way

I have just had another colleague announce her 'happy accident' and another wave a scan picture in my face. I'm desperately trying to focus on my delicious caffeine free redbush tea and not cry Pfft accidents, it's lies I tell you!

Ps imps I had no idea you were such an alcy but I'm sure you're right about the science bit

Accident my arse. I'm sure that's what she's telling her OH everyone. Chin up lovely.

Yes, I know, I did drink a bit much really, but I swear it was my only vice! I am a very healthy person in all other respects despite a penchant for baked goods!

Scrambled oh gosh I really feel for you, hope you feel upto brooking real soon..be good to yourself in the meantime..

Imps that is very interesting , sounds a bit like the study I undertook on the correlation of bleeding gums & vitamin B complex, yes I do believe you are onto something there!

Cake don't be disheartened you will be next :)

scrambled I know how you feel, we will be here when you want to return.
cake I know what you mean about accidents, I think its bollocks. I also know someone who tells everyone they got pregnant first time they tried whereas I know it took them 6 months. I have no idea why women do this to the sisterhood!
The consultant I saw said normal is 6-9 months and upwards, anything less than that is actually very very quick.

imps I am with you on the booze front. I have cut down significantly this month and have ovulated 2 days earlier than normal, I am hoping to see a lengthening in the luteal phase too.

this website is very helpful for eveidence based research wasting a whole day at work and also confirms generic's vitamin C and progesterone theory.

sites.google.com/site/miscarriageresearch/diet-and-miscarriage/alcohol

It's really strange this whole how-long-did-it-take thing. My cousin told everyone that her DD was conceived within 2 months, and my mum bizarrely took great pleasure in gloating to us all that she knew that it had taken them 9 months. This situation has always confused me for two reasons:

a) Did my cousin think that there was something shameful in taking 9 months to conceive?
b) Did my mum really feel so pleased/smug that it had taken them much longer than my cousin had said to the extent that she had to tell everyone? Seriously, why the fuck does it matter??

It's similar to the whole epidural thing when giving birth - a lot of my friends who didn't have an epi make a big deal about it as though it's some sort of badge of honour; a lot of my friends who did have an epi have told me they feel a bit ashamed/embarrassed that they "gave in". Again - why the fuck does it matter??

Wowzers, sorry for the rant - it just really annoys me that there is so much unnecessary stress/expectations added to what is already an emotional experience which, lest we forget, we actually have next to no control over ourselves!

OOOOOHHHHH I've just remembered - it's the final of Great British Bake Off this evening!! Mary-Ann to win!!

Well I've said all along that this pg was just a happy accident, I mean the fact I had a fertility monitor etc and we'd been having unprotected sex for almost 2 years was just a coincidence and carelessness respectively.

Honest guv....

Oh and the visits to the fertility clinic? That was about something completely unrelated....

Yup, honestly, you wouldn't believe it but I and this awful ingrowing eyebrow hair and the consultant looking at it just happened to double up in fertility stuff too - I mean, what are the chances.....

Biscuits, you Fertile Myrtle you! You put the rest of us to shame...

Scrambled I'm so sorry about AF. Don't feel bad for having a little wobble. I have one every month. I can't wait for us all to be comparing our war birth stories in July, when we will have completely forgotten about this stupid TTC crap. I'm thinking we will have to change the thread title to brooking no argument for quiet babies who sleep all night. We had better drop the rat smacking apart in case anyone gets the wrong idea

Imps step away from fertility friend now! I'm also shocked about your alcoholism I always thought you where such a good girl. Here's hoping your going to do a Meconium

I'm a bit tired, am on nights again. I had a nightmare morning. I normally finish work at 07:45. I didn't leave until 08:20 this morning and got stuck in bad traffic. Didnt get home until 09:50. I only live a 15 minute drive away then I had to walk my dog. I was feeling very sorry for myself!

Cake men eh?! My DH actually said to me I should get myself some new underwear as my stuff was looking a bit old. Well excuse me, I dont see him putting on some sexy pants & seducing me!

Farfalla glad your ovulation is sorting itself out. Annoyingly your DH is being sensible I agree

Little I'm glad I'm not the only one led astray by maternity sales!

Imps - fertile yes, but don't mention my eyebrows....

You've put my mind at rest Biscuits - I was starting to get worried about your brows!

All sounds a bit knackering for you at the moment Baby. Where are you in your cycle? Hoping for you sake that it isn't Peak Shagging Time - sounds like your time would be better spent catching 40 winks!

Imps, how's the spotting? Hope it's nothing xx

Thanks everyone for the positive thoughts, I got silly and forgot that I'm supposed to be brooking no argument so I better get right back to it and brook no argument! Don't know what my normal LP is as only just started charting, but this is obviously an indicator that I'll be having a baby that takes his/her sweet time about doing things

Imps glad you're thinking positively, though brooking fiercely for you for that BFP

Generic sorry to hear about your visit from the evil witch, but in better news congratulations on day 4 of your pregnancy. Hope everything goes well at your scan.

Biscuits that coat looks lovely! Makes me tempted to get a new one of my own! Being 15 weeks have you had the scan yet? (sorry if you have and already posted about it, I'm not too good with keeping up todate and aware of what's going on with who). Also thanks for the explanation of posting links, I've felt very silly for not knowing how to does this when everyone else does.

Dream good luck with the scan of Thursday, not far away now.

Farfalla here's for step-MILs who are in no way going to be connected to you by blood I sometimes wish the same were true of my MIL, though shouldn't really say it as she can be really nice..

Ninja we also want to see Tinker Tailor, was it really good? Bit indecisive at the mo as it's meant to be a birthday treat but we don't really have the money. Ho hum. ... you know what, I think we might watch it after all

at Baby's MIL. I don't think parents ever think we're grown up do they?

Sorry that the evil witch has paid you a visit Scrambled. Take all the time you need to take care of yourself, we understand.

Cake that sounds absolutely awful of your OH? Denying you swi? Just isn't on Also condolences on upduffed colleague - tis so frustrating when others get pregnant "accidentally" isn't it? (also had a colleague who got upduffed the same time as me, keep telling OH it's her who took our baby as she's actually pregnant with twins. I know it makes me a bad person but I do find it hard to be happy for her - everything kept going right for her when it was going wrong for me, and me and OH were the ones who were always being sensible - she rushed into it all with her bloke).

Woohoo, I actually seem to be caught up with the group lol