Assisted Conception (and all the bits in between) volume 8

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Looks like we need a new thread for Italian, Scrummy, Beginnings, womanly, lissy, rowing, fretfree, Teds77, keziah, frustrated and anyone else who wants to chat about assisted conception!

Oh weller i'm so sorry to hear that. I too hope you can snap out of it by tomorrow. The first day is always awful. I hope you get to start IVF straight away.

I didn't get my surge this morning, so called the clinic who advised that in their view Clomid should not delay ovulation and would I like to come in for a blood test. Which I did of course and whilst there they said they might as well send me for a scan. 3 of the follicles are fully mature and ready to pop, which was supported by blood results, so glad I went in. Will be heading back early tomorrow morning for another scan and bloods just to be sure and then if all as expected IUI later. Super excited!!!

Cross post teds EC tomorrow - eek. How funny that you and rowing have it on the same day. So the three of us can obsess together on the TWW!

Forgot to say josie glad you've started counselling. You can quite often feel worse after the initial sessions as you start to open up, but keep with it. Hope you like your counsellor as that is important.

Scrummy that is excellent news. Sounds like your clinic is really on their game. Will have my fingers crossed for your scan and bloods tomorrow but really it is all looking very good!

Had my day 9 scan today. First cycle IUI with clomid. Unfortunately didn't think the results were that great. Apparently have 2 follies on one side and 3 on the other but the lining was too thin. Before I start googling myself mad can anyone shed some light on all of this? I was sent off as well for bloods to 'see if there is anything hiding in there', which doesn't sound promising. And back on Thurs for 2nd scan and results of bloods. Can one improve their lining?

Hi Sunny,

During my IUI my lining was thin (5mm or thereabouts) on the Tuesday. Within about 3 days it was up to what it should be (10mm or 11mm). What I did to improve it was have acupuncture (increases blood flow to area) and also have sex/orgasms (same reason, having an orgasm gives the uterus a good work out!) Don't worry about the follies or lining. A lot can happen in just a couple of days x

Weller sorry it didn't work. Give yourself some time to be fed up, but then onwards and upwards, it sounds like IVF might just be round the corner, and that's something very positive you can concentrate on. ((hugs))

Oh dear Teds, irritating yes but, hold your tongue, too much stress for him would almost certainly backfire on you. I'm sure he'll erm, deliver the goods and all will be fine. Lots and lots of luck for you.

As for my AF. Who knows? The Humira has made my cycles so weird I don't really have a clue, but suspect it might be on the we or early next week.

Woo hoo Scrummy! Exciting! Will be keeping everything crossed for you to (this thread has got v busy all of a sudden!)

Josie apart from counselling helping, your appt at the fertility clinic should help too. I found that once I understood what was happening with my body and DH's sperm, and a plan for us was formed it felt like things were moving forward again.

Thanks Lucy for that info. Good to know it can improve in a few days. Actually went and had acupuncture about a week ago but she said considering that it's actually DH (Mild male) who has the problems, she wanted to concentrate on seeing him and not me for the time being! Financially it's better but I may go back to her especially if the lining doesn't improve.

I also heard that one shouldn't do too much exercise before and after IUI? (Or maybe it's just my excuse to be lazy!!!)

Good luck scrummy I will keep everything crossed for you and thanks I am very lucky to have my lovely DP and DS so all is good

Hi sunny matching number of follies! That is great news, so take that as a positive. I was categorically told not to have sex before IUI and only gentle exercise beforehand, with no exercise afterwards. Sex was back in the cards after the IUI though. I'm not sure about improving your lining, specifically. I'll consult my books and get back to you.

thanks Lucy

Hi all, it's me! I'm on my phone and can barely see what I am typing, so if I type something rude please forgive me.
Weller I'm very sorry to hear af turned up, this is one of the hardest things you will ever put yourself through, so be very kind to yourself, get all the help you can and be brave. Big hug sweetie! Josie ditto to you!
Lucy I must have missed the news about a family member being ill. You are having such a stressful time. I hope af behaves and turns up on time. I have had quite a few cysts includinG during treatment, none of my clinics have batted an eyelid and have just continued with treatment. All of my cysts have resolved themselves within a couple of cycles. One nurse told me I must be a 'cystic' kind of personm Huh!
Itakian how are you feeling, hope the cold is on the wane!
Teds I will think of you tomorrow. Good luck and take it very EC is very tiring! I agreeN silentN inward fuming is the order of the day when it comes to your DH. Don't want to frighten his 'boys' with a big frowny face.
Lissy lovely to hear you and your baby are both progressing so well. That baby is very well-travelled isn't it! Cosmopolitan baby!
Keziah that sounds like a scary experienceN but on the plus side a chance to listen to your baby's heartbeat. I still can hardly believe you are this far along and with no intervention, other than the immunes. I'm so happy for you! When will you be 24. Weeks?
RSI is kicking in now! I'm sorry if I have missed anyone out. I have walked miles today and got a bit lost, then got off the bus too soon in a panic and had to walk another half mile with rucksack. Actually felt like crying as I walked along - wah! What a drip! So 12:30 tomorrow it's all happening!

teds just read your post and wet myself laughing in bed . Thanks for info on IVF x

Hi - important day today for people with treatment, so hope it all goes smoothly for you.

Rowing - 1 week and 2 days to go (can't tell I am counting, can you!) Need to phone for swab results today - it certainly isn't glamorous! Thanks for asking. No, I don't always believe I can be pregnant either (can't feel baby yet) despite a little bump, bizarre!!

I am officially on the dreaded TWW. all went swimmingly today and have been sent home with double dose of progesterone pressaries and a daily dose of aspirin.

teds and rowing I hope your day went as smoothly as mine did.

keziah weller Lucy Italian sunny thank you for all your good wishes

rowing and scrummy- Oh I'm so excited for you!!! Hope everything goes smoothly, feel good, and I can't wait to hear how it went!

weller- I'm so sorry to hear about your BFN. Don't give up hope!

Italian- How are you feeling, love?

Keziah- Hope you're feeling well. Sorry to hear about the bleeding...that must've given you a bit of a scare! All ok now?

sunnyg- It's true, the lining can change in only a few days. 5 follies is great!

teds- I think that best that you can do is to repeat to yourself 'He didn't do it on purpose, he didn't do it on purpose'. Ah, men. What would we do without them?

Josie- I do hope you start to feel better soon. I know it's hard at the moment, but believe me, things WILL get better. Stay positive and look at the big picture. You WILL get your BFP!

AFM, I don't remember who said it, but YES! I am completely stocked up on Old Navy stuff, among other things. But I know what's important...made sure to bring home a huge bag of Hershey's Kisses and Reese's Peanut Butter Cups . Still waiting on immunes results, although did get the call to start weaning off the Cyclogest pessaries. Though to be honest, haven't used them in weeks due to pregnancy related bum issues (read: PILES), although that has gotten much better, thank goodness! Sorry if TMI, but I figure anything goes on here. That's it for me, other than: My innie is becoming an outie!

Fairy dust and chocolate boobs to all!

lissy snap thank you darling. You sound so happy. So pleased for you

Scrummy glad it all went so 'swimmingly'! Do you have anything planned to keep you sane during the 2ww? Any more boots to be bought, any more facials to be booked (well, you've got to stay relaxed )

Rowing and Teds, hope your days went well as well!

Weller so sorry about BFN and AF. Thinking of you, honey.

Lucy how are you? I too must have missed the news about a someone in your family being ill. Hope they will be better soon.

Ted thanks for your kind words, I wrote to the doc (we are in email contact!!). I am better; I think I am finally better! I am so sorry your Mr Teds forgot to tick the right box! I do sometimes wonder what men are doing at times when even something they must be quiet good at (IN general NOT a reference to Mr Teds) e.g. wanking, has them so stumped! Oh well, let?s hope it all goes well.

Rowing honey all the very, very best for your treatment.

Josie well done for starting counselling, it does help (for many). Avoid work calls, avoid people who make you feel bad, say what is on your mind at counselling, (generally these people are great and know what they are doing ? and just be yourself, they are not there to judge but to help).

Scrummy all the very best.

Keziah how are you?

Lissy give your own tummy a hug from me!

sunnyg what is a mild male? I think too much exercise is not a good idea after treatment, and maybe avoid it before too! If you are used to lots of exercise it may be different, ask the clinic. BUT I would say that exercise after IUI was not a good idea and rest would be better.

I feel better, I feel positive about my treatment, I am excited that one of my embies will be able to come and make a home in me for nine months. I would love it if all three of them were able to do that at some time but reality is that I know that is not at all likely. So I am just waiting for the time when I get to see if Serentis, Jenever and May are able to come and make a home in me! I do feel much more positive about my weight and eating and about myself in general. I can?t really say why I feel better, I just do. I have good friends and I know I am very lucky. I have friends who are battling cancer and so I know that my minor health issues are not such a big deal. My DD is a total handful but I love her with all my heart and I feel so much better about the fact that DH and I will get through the difficult times and we love her so much, and each other. As a Christian I do also feel that God is helping me. People might think having ?a faith? makes it all easier, at times it actually seems to make it harder! But ultimately it does seem to enable one/me to take the focus off myself at times and makes it easier for me to see the positive side of life. I know that for others there will be other things that enable them/you to do that. Whatever it is that enables you/one to do that I do think it is a great thing as once the spot light if off your own life you can suddenly see the benefits/blessings in your life in a better way! IMHO.

Just seen the Call of Duty WM3 advert. Men firing guns, one says ?awesome? and the tag line is ?There is a soldier in all of us.? Makes me feel sick! Victims of war are probably more likely to be kids picking up left over cluster bombs then ?men?. How very sad this is entertainment! No offence to anyone whose kids have got these games, I know not everyone thinks like this. I?d just rather kids were blowing up imaginary aliens than playing games that are ?based? on real life!

Have no evidence that "Victims of war are probably more likely to be kids picking up left over cluster bombs then ?men?. " Just my gut feeling!

Scrummy congrats it all went so well. Sorry, what progestarone pessaries? Are these standard?

Italian - sorry should have been more specific - or used some kind of appropriate abbreviation! Mild Male - I was referring to DH diagnosis 'mild male fertility problems'. !!! and I know what you mean about feeling grateful. It's hard when you are going through fertility issues to keep things in perspective. LIke someone who has cancer etc. Today I feel grateful that generally DH and I are healthy, we have good jobs, a gorgeous new puppy (yep a distraction!) and life is pretty good.
Tomorrow I have my second (day 12) scan so depending on how that goes, (c'mon lining!) I may feel differently!

But today I feel grateful

Sorry to hear that Weller, I hope you?re feeling better soon

Well done on containing your anger Teds, hope it gets sorted soon

Good news Scrummy, hopefully everything works out for you

Lucy that?s exactly what I was going to say - the counselling seems to be helping loads already, and hopefully after my fertility appt, which is next week by the way (eeeek!!) I will feel more optimistic, although after my stupid mistake last week I?m actually a little more optimistic already. Maybe letting myself imagine the things I would do and feel if I were pg made me remember why I?m doing it. Anyway, I felt like myself today, which is the first time in at least a year, and I was worried I?d lost that happy part of me so I was glad to feel it again, I can cling onto that feeling. I bought a new coat, new boots, got a new phone (which wasn?t planned) and so I figure I might as well add a new, more confident and optimistic me to my new accessories

Thanks Italian, I?m so glad you?re feeling more optimistic and happier too, there must be something in the air! Counselling has helped loads already - the last time I had it I brushed over everything whereas now I?ve totally opened up and she?s really helping. I?ve admitted my anxiety about work and although I?ve spoken to them now it wasn?t as bad as I thought and they?re coming to see me next week so hopefully I can explain my anxieties to them aswell, seeing as it stems from my being bullied in my last job and now being constantly worried about being shouted at and making mistakes etc.

So glad you're feeling grateful today aswell SunnyG, long may these good feelings last

sunnyg pets, lovely, in America people who have dogs or cats but not children sometimes call them fur babies! I have a hamster called Johnson and a DD who is 6.

OH DEAR, just googled Fur babies and it also said "a slang term referring to a woman's vagina"!!!! SORRY do not use that term ever again!

sunnyg Hugs to you and may your lining be super great. Come on lining.

Josie so sorry to hear about your last work experience. Remember this is a new place, new people. Hopefully the councelling will help you to deal with any issues from the past and also to be assertive in a good way and hopefully you will be treated better -in fact brilliantly - in this new job. All the very best.

Are you watching The Young Apprentice? Not as good as the adult one and no where near as good as Housewives of New York city but OK!

Any favourites?

I like Harry Maxwell

But also:

Haya Al Dlame

and

Hayley Forrester

I think Lewis Roman or Lizzie Magee are going next week. I'd like to see the back of James McCullagh and Gbemi Okunlola.

I am pretty sure Harry Hitchens will be in the final group but don't think he will win!

Anyone else got any predictions, I mean about Young Apprentice??? I would so love to go on the Apprentice. I applied last time but did not get in! Maybe if they bring out a GERIATRIC APPRENTICE I can apply!

But it does also mean what I said it did, but now erase if from your minds!

Rowing hugs to you. You are in my thoughts and my prayers.

mojangles any news?

Argh. I've got that stupid cold. Started proper yesterday and feel really rotten today. So my body will be in fight, not nurture mode . I was really elated on Tuesday and walked from the clinic with on my face, but something DH said that night really dampened my mood and then this cold. I'm fighting tears this morning. Let's hope it's just the aftermath of the nervous excitement and anticipation that I felt so strongly ahead of the treatment. I even lost 3kg as I lost my appetite. Oh well. It's only two weeks and then we can start again if it hasn't worked.

josie I've been bullied at work and know how awful it is. Don't let the £&?@£&)£ get to you! Like Italian said, this is a new team and therefore there no reason to think they would behave the same way. But I still have it in the back of my mind how awful I felt when I was treated like that and will therefore always be on my guard, so I understand why you might feel an anxious. Glad you're feeling better and have treated yourself.

Lucy I had booked myself a massage, but then realised I've arranged to go to Masterchef Live on Saturday for a girly/foodie day out, so will be pampering my taste buds instead (provided this stupid cold doesn't spoil the plans). How are you today?

sunny good luck with your scan today. I think the pessaries are pretty standard. They originally only gave me one dose, but I then reminded them of my spotting and they've doubled the dose. The IUI must be imminent. I hope it goes as smoothly as mine did. It really just like a long smear Appt. Just don't try and jump off that bed straight after like I almost did

italian really glad to hear you feel so positive about the treatment again and life in general. My favourite is the well dressed, eloquent one with the child bearing hips - can't recall her name - the one that got called into the boardroom with Harry M. I like him too and Harry H, but don't think they will win based on what we've seen so far. I'm totally in love with Frozen Planet right now.

rowing & teds how are you?