The BESHes are now getting cross. Because it's taking ages. Now look, Universe, cut us some feckin slack.

[Ariesgirl]

Now also, in honour of the Rugby World Cup, we can also take our pick of the strapping, fine-thighed walking sperm banks who will be on display in New Zealand soon. I vote myself to be the tournament's physio and also we can judiciously place a few eager volunteers into the Pit for Gloom purposes. They are so incredibly tough that they are not likely to go the way of Daniel, Cap'n Jack and Mitchell.

Roll up, roll up....baggsy the first go on Jonny Wilkinson.

No, of course I bloody don't.

I set fire to my moon cup- and not in a liberate me from periods way, in a 'oh bum, that cost £16' way.

Hi haaaags, sorry not been about much- keep making mistake of reading fred on ipod, and just can't type properly on it. I've also not been able to go running for a week an it's ruined me- I've turned into a cake eating monster [hsad] with no time for anything but cake and then making tea to eat with the cake and then eating the cake before the tea is ready and so having to eat more cake when tea is ready.

I too have been trying for number 2 for 22 months. (spooky) (is 2 a lucky number in some culture anywhere does anyone know?)[hhmm] I do like themed smileys though. Sorry for the bloody buggeryness of bastard metal fuckers to all.

I have a mooncup but I bought it before joining MN!
Seems a few of us decided Christmas 2009 to ttc then....
Day 4 of my low carb diet. I actually feel quite well. My ibs is certainly better. Interesting to see how I feel/what I crave as the Droid approaches next Friday. Will I cave for cake? Or be pms free?!

Me too! Me too! Not mooncups but started TTC in Dec 2009. Maybe that was a bad month to start? Maybe if we'd waited a month or started a month earlier we'd all be diffed. Maybe.

I luff tea & cake mole. but you are right, more cake than running upsets my balance also.

I need a hug, and I don't care who knows it. Mumsnet feels a but unsafe for me today :(

*bit

I know that the internet is never safe, and that anyone can read your posts. But this felt like a corner of mumsnet that I could hide in, and be supported, and support back. Now I feel a bit at sea with it all. I've been posting here for a year and I've made some lovely RL friends through it, but now I feel pushed totally off balance by that thread. I am so sorry to do this, and I am not trying to make the person who started it feel guilty, or worse, it's just that this is the place I have always talked about my feelings and I just don't know where else to put them.

The BESH thread is for people 30 and over trying to conceive, and are having some difficulty. There are no other 'rules'.

I am not going to flounce. But I might need to take a little break.

Which fred???

Who has dared to make the lovely Lady Boo feel discombobulated*?

*love that word

It's a great word. :)

No-one has made me feel anything. I suppose my experiences and my personailty are what has made me feel the way I do.

Is this the fred auntydor started? I wanted to wade in and say something which some might find flippant - but some of the stories were just heart-breaking so for once I chose to stfu. Am very angry with the way people turned on her though - and it really, really fucks me off that unless you are actually 100% explicit in your explanations (playing up (down?) to the lowest common denominator) then people deliberately take your comments out of context. You seem to have to put a disclaimer on every single damned post. :(

Discombubulate aar boo? I fink not!

Is it like being disembowelled Pone?

And thanks for me making me larf

The mistake was putting it in AIBU. Therein lay the error. It turned horrible, horrible, horrible. Boo, you can have a hug from me if you want

I'm confused. I don't know what is going on. I have tried to search. Can anyone enlighten me. I won't throw buns or anything.

Boo pliz not to be disembowled, discombobulated, discomanything [hsad]

I am really sorry Boo and Rie and anyone else I have inadvertently upset. I royally fucked up and didn't mean to. I deliberately didn't put that thread in here or anywhere where I felt like it would be directed at people who have been so supportive towards me. Sadly that backfired and I am feeling disappointed with myself and generally fucked off.

It then pissed me off that I had to go i and apologise for everything - I felt as though everyone's nastiness was my fault, even when I hadn't said it. What was even more annoying was feeling as though anything else I said made out that I was just a nasty bitch. I had a bad day when I started that thread and the week has just got worse :(

Maybe I should just quietly slope away from MN and put it all down as a bad experience.

Rie very unmumsnetty xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Dor Thanks for the PM. You are not responsible for the posts that made me cry. Please to stick around. We do get it.

dor I think we all get it. To me, your initial post meant "those who start whining "we've been TTC for 3 weeks and nothing, although I am feeling nauseous and my period is a week late, am I pregnant?". Although, because you didn't actually explicitely state that you're being told off. :(

Thank you ladies.

I feel suitably chastised for not being explicit enough!

auntydor You shouldn't have to list 64 footnotes at the bottom of a post so as to cover each and every eventuality. There are a lot of arseholes on mn just looking for a fight. Just thank your lucky stars you didn't mention the MIL and/or special needs!

... or breastfeeding over bottle feeding?

Any thoughts on BLW vs. jars?

BLW?

Oh noes. Grammar school? Tutors? Montessori?

So much to learn to feel superior about dor. :(

HOIST YER PANTS and GET YER JUDGEING BRA ON!

I have just read the thread and I thought the whole thing was very nasty without good reason, especially when people started bringing still births and loss of a living child into it which had nothing to do with it originally.

If I manage to have this baby, I will probably want another one later on. If I never get to have 2, at least I will hopefully still have this one and will not be facing a lifetime of childlessness. If I do try for a second and don't get it, of course that would be a very hard thing to deal with. We all know how fucking awful going through ttc each long and miserable month is. We all know how bad the continual disappointments are. If I, heaven forbid, ever have to endure any more miscarriages after this one, touch wood, is born, they will be just as traumatic and horrible as the ones I have had already. I wouldn't think Oh well never mind, I've got one. It's still shit. But if you are facing childlessness on top of it, that requires you to re-evaluate your entire life. The two different scenarios are both shit in their different ways and there is no shitness ranking scale that exists anyway. I am just horrified at how some very nasty people have reacted.

But I'm not joining in on that thread because if I give my two pence worth on there someone will probably say something nasty to me.

On a more positive note it is half term next week and I intend to have some lovely long lie ins :)

And I have now had 6 days of work so I have some money coming in. A third of it has already disappeared into certain internet shopping expeditions though!

I read it. People were mean :( It's such a tricky topic isn't it?
I feel....melancholic. I think it's weather, reading that thread and pms. I want to Wallow in chocolate. I iz on a diet :(