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started new thread! we do talk a lot, don't we?

Well one of the midwives called and she was very nice and helped as much as she could but she said she didn't know much about thyroid problems and that the consultant would speak with me on Friday. I'm now waiting for a call back from the diabetic midwife as my numbers have been up and down, might be because I'm still a bit ill though, have to see what they say.

Razz I really hope it will be ok.

I really don't know what to say to all of you amazing women waiting on health "professionals" getting back in touch other than to let you know my thoughts and prayers are with you all. I hope we get good news soon xxx

Well, the consultant just called and went through everything with me. Didn't add a great deal, just that if it isn't Down's then she would want to know what had caused the abnormal blood result. She said it could be a sign of placental deterioration. Great. She was very nice, though, and explained a bit about how the hospitals work together - basically, the Fetal Medicine midwives at RIE organise it all on behalf of both hospitals, so I can have the amnio at St John's if they can get me a date that suits.

I got off the phone, discussed it with DH a bit and called the FM midwife back to make the appt and it was 16.03 and no one was there! I know they stop work at 4, but honestly. Answer machine on, no one around. So I will have to wait til tomorrow.

Ugh, it's just struck me that I have to beat two sets of odds - firstly that bean doesn't have Down's, and secondly that I don't miscarry after the test. I'm not good at beating odds! And then we have to make it through the rest of the pregnancy with a possibly dodgy placenta. Makes me wonder what a nuchal test for Thea would have shown - maybe she would have had the same odds.

Oh, and the car's just failed its MOT. Waiting for a quote for fixing the suspension and part of the exhaust.

Cheese, I can't believe you have to wait until Friday! Can't you call the consultant and discuss it over the phone? I hope the diabetic MW calls you promptly.

cheese those results are fine, please don't worry. they are out of range but by such a tiny amount it's virtually normal. TSH lowers in pregnancy anyway, my last TSH was 0.37 and the consultant was really pleased with it, for what it's worth the levels on my notes say anything above 0.3 is in the normal range here. The t4 level fluctuates throughout the day so they tend not to bother about that so much and the antibodies are nowhere near what mine were, think mine were 190 or something like that. Hope that helps x
too sorry you have this extra stress, maybe it was just a dodgy result. My mum had the blood test and so did my mil, they both got told there was a high chance of downs and both had healthy pregnancies and babies. I also know of a woman who was classed as low risk who had a baby with downs syndrome. That was one of the reasons I declined the test x
Hi to everyone else, not much news here, just plodding along. It's Ciaran's birthday next week, I have just made a teddy bear cake as a trial run and it turned out well so I am going to make him the best cake ever next week.

sorry razz I missed your last post in my eagerness to put cheese's mind at rest. I have everything crossed for you that your results come back clear. I understand that you feel like this is the last chance, I feel like that too sometimes and that is one reason why I am even more stressed about this pregnancy because I don't know if I could try again if something were to go wrong but then again I want a baby so badly as long as there is a chance I can see myself not giving up, its so hard.

Too also hoping the result may just have been an off one. Why does it have to be 16 weeks for an amnio? I don't know a huge deal about them and wondered if they explained it? Seems unfair that you'd have to wait so long. I could call clinic but as I'm in Friday and don't even know if she's there until then, I think some of them move around hospitals too.

ciwi thank you. It was below the range here but my gp said they may want to do something (no idea what) given my history and gestational diabetes. The midwife on the phone today said they're linked and that's why she would have tested for thyroid too so it's likely to have something to do with my GD but I just don't know in what way or how it may affect it; if at all. Hoping for not at all! Is it right that stress can affect results? I'm sure I remember reading that somewhere. (hugs) next week will be hard for you, Ciaran's cake sounds lovely :) How are you feeling? x

cheese I feel ok at the moment, I am trying to make his birthday a happy occasion, I just hope that I can manage that on the day. The day itself has happy memories for us as we got to cuddle him all day and our family all visited for cuddles, I am going to try and focus on that and remember the time we had with him.
I think they will probably just monitor your levels to make sure they don't get any worse. The body needs thyroxine to help with metabolism and creating energy so if you are stressed then you will need more thyroxine to make more energy so it does seem logical that stress can affect results but I don't know for definite.

ciwi a happy occasion, that would be nice, I think I'll try the same for Scarlett. I'd planned on balloons for her grave, writing cards and letting the dcs draw pictures, some little toys maybe too. I don't really have happy memories of that day, some regrets now but I did what I had to at the time. Getting teary thinking about it I hope the day is a happy one for you, as much as possible xx Thanks again for the advice, it's really helped, totally stressing out over everything the past few days.

Ciwi is Ciarans birthday the 11 th? Sorry if I m wrong. Georgie's is the 10 th. I think the day itself won't be too bad , of course upsetting, but it is often the lead up Isn t
It? I also want this weekend over & done with as that will be an exact year since we found out Georgie had died. What did you decide to do on the day?
Lots of love and positive vibes to
cheese , razz & too I so hope you all get the answers you want & deserve soon.
Hi Jane, Shakey & * Blue thanks for all your good wishes.
Hope everyone else is ok?
Love to all xxx

angel it's the 12th. I think we will go to the cemetery with flowers and light his candle and release a balloon, then maybe go out for some lunch with dh and get the family round in the evening for birthday cake and tea. You are right, the build up is often worse than the event. I keep getting upset thinking he would be nearly one. Do you know what you are going to do for georgie's birthday?
cheese the day itself may not have happy memories but Scarlett is a happy memory so just focus on that, you can make her birthday a happy occasion x

Ciwi and Angel, I hope the birthdays go well. Making cakes sounds lovely - I shall do that when the time comes.

Cheese, it's 16 weeks because there will be more genetic material in the amniotic fluid by then. I think that's what the MW said. Also, they can do some sort of faster test at 16 weeks and the results will come back in 3-4 days, whereas if they do it earlier they have to grow the cells until they're big enough to test and that takes 2 weeks.

Maybe they're just being cautious because of the GD? I hope they take good care of you!

Dad just called and I thought my sister had told him, but it turned out he was just calling to ask what I want for my birthday (which is Friday). I told him about it and he was really good, all positive and calm, which has cheered me up a bit. When he asked if there was anything specific I wanted for my birthday my mind went totally blank, because all I could think of was that I wanted my baby to be ok.

Oh Too wish we had a magic wand & could grant you your birthday wish . Xxx
Ciwi . Sorry I got the date wrong kne it was very close to Georgie's birthday. we re going to her " special" place to lay dome flowers then out for lunch. I, too want it to be a celebration of the day we met our fabulous Georgie big foot ( nicknamed by my sister for obvious reasons!!!)
The only thing I want to mourn is all we missed out on for both us & Georgie . She's done such a lot of good and touched so many people she can only be celebrated.
Hope everyone gets some sleep especially those of you worrying at the moment xxx

Hi everyone.

Amnio booked for Mon 17 Oct. It has to be at RIE or it would have meant waiting until the 26th, so I am trying to be sensible and think that it is only a building and not everyone in it is incompetent and bean will not be doomed just because I am going back there. Anyway, I should know the results by the Friday at the latest and hopefully by the Wednesday.

Angel, that's such a lovely sentiment - Georgie can only be celebrated! That's so sweet. for Georgie.

too I am really pleased that you have a date sorted, are you going into work between now and then?? Just thinking that it might help the time pass more quickly though I am sure you will not be able to concentrate on anything!!
ciwi I think your idea of a birthday cake is fab and angel your outlook on why you should celebrate is wonderful and has choked me up. I made changes to my life after loosing Thomas that I feel he led the way for me to do so.
cheese am glad that things dont seem quite as bad as you initially thought, you certainly need a rest from complications!!

Well, it looks like the next two weeks on this thread are going to be difficult for quite a few of us for various reasons and I just wish us all the strength in the world and so many prayers that all will be well xx

Angel thanks, only 2 more days now and have a morning appointment so hopefully not too long to wait.

ciwi Definitely, I'll be trying my best but I'm sure they'll be a lot of sadness too.

Too Ah I see, that makes sense and if it's 3-4 days with a lower miscarriage risk then it's worth the wait. Good luck for the 17th, I really hope it goes well. If you're anxious on the day maybe try some rescue remedy, it's safe during pregnancy and I found it has helped me in difficult times.

razz hope you don't have long to wait, can't imagine what you must be going through waiting.

Waiting and not knowing is so hard isn't it? Seems we're all doing that in different ways as well as waiting for our babies too. Feels like such a long time to go. I've not heard back from the diabetes team yet, might call again later if I've still not heard. Hope everyone's doing ok today xx

Oh I forgot to mention this. When dh had some baking potatoes cooking in the microwave yesterday he opened it up to turn them again (had already done so a few times) and the keyring I bought him for Father's day just fell out of it. It's one with Scarlett's hand and footprint on and her name which had fell off the keyring a few weeks ago. We'd looked for it everywhere but assumed it had fallen off outside the house and I was going to get another ordered.

It's quite large as well this is the one. Probably just a coincidence but it's really odd I thought as it definitely wasn't in there before, it would have damaged the microwave and the keys aren't put in the kitchen either. They hang straight up on a hook next to the front door. We're right between the day she died and the day she was born too but 10 months ago (2nd and 6th).

It's a little comforting either way.

Spooky, Cheese! Think you might have a little poltergeist watching out for you . Hope your diabetic team calls you back soon.

Razz, I'm off work today again but will probably go in tomorrow. It's too long a time to sit at home and worry, so I'm just going to have to go back. They will help take my mind off it - we're pretty busy at the moment and I shouldn't have too much time to think. I hope. I might take most of the week of the 17th off, though. The MW told me to plan to go home after the procedure and rest for at least the rest of that day, and I might take the Tuesday/Wed off as well. I can't think of anything worse than sitting at work flinching at every twinge wondering if it was a miscarriage starting and running to the toilet every 5 minutes to check for bleeding. Oh, and jumping every time my mobile rings.

Wishing you two all the luck and strength in the world!

Spooky indeed! But very happy that you found it back Cheese saves you the money and trouble of ordering again.

Reminds me of a moment I had on Monday evening in bed with DH. We were just cuddling up in bed and I heard a baby cry. I asked DH if he had heard it, and he said no. It wasn't DD, cause I know how she cries. It was very strange.

cheese I love it when random almost unexplained things happen (that are good) gives me a warm feeling inside.
too think it is a good idea to go back to work and an even better idea to take the time off after the amnio.

I just decided that I had had enough of waiting for results so contacted the hospital that are conducting the test, I knew they wouldnt be able to give me any results, just wanted to no if the test was complete. Turns out that the reports were done yesterday but get this, I have to wait until friday to find out as it needs signing by another person who is not at work until then!! How frustrating but at the same time I am shitting myself.

Sorry, hello blue

Hi razz will be thinking of you! so silly that they need a signature to be able to release it to you! will keep you in my prayers, hoping you get the results you want!

blue that sounds odd for you too, how did you feel at the time?

razz they can't do that! Can't you call back and demand to know? They simply cannot make you wait until Friday, I'd threaten them with formal complaints and all sorts, definitely get them to give you the results today maybe ask to speak to your consultant? Get the person's name that you speak to as well and make sure they know you'll be holding them responsible for any anxiety caused, they might tell you then. You are legally entitled to know results when you call too, I was reading about drs giving results the other day and I found this out; they do actually have to give you figures. Hope you get it sorted

Too still waiting here! I think I'd definitely take a few days off after the amnio, I think the first 24-48 hours are the riskiest?

cheese I felt quite happy actually and surprised as well.
DH has been commenting about babies a lot lately, saying we've got all that to come (like crying babies) it might be a sign :) hopefully this month is our month

Hi everyone,
too your amnio is on the same day as my doppler scan to see if I am likely to get pre eclampsia early again or not. we can stress out support each other, fx we both have good days on the 17th x
cheese definitely your monkey playing tricks x
razz can't believe they are making you wait, can you interpret the results yourself if you just asked them to read it out? They are your results and you are entitled to have them.
blue fx this is your month and these are all signs to prepare you for it x

cheese your outrage for me has actually allowed me to have a little giggle on what is a fairly frustarating day!! It is the lab that will not release the results to my consultant until the 'oh so important' second signature. Then the genetics nurse that works with consultant said they may be too busy to call me on friday at which point I really did flip. Think they will be making the effort to call me now. She also said she was surprised that the lab had told me they were ready.Why oh why do we have to beg for such life changing/affecting news????
ciwi I guess sadly you are in this horrid 2 week wait for news also, wish you tons of luck and goo vibes.
blue hope your good vibes bring you the news you really want.