Sixth Form Common Room part IV - ttc and pregnancy post mc

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This is the place to be if you are ttc post mc / pregnancy loss and need a little spot to call home.

Dachs so relieved for you.

Hoorah! Just a quick stop in to check on dachs and so pleased it was better news.
Hoping for positive news from Digi too, fingers crossed for you.

Good luck for today digi, what time is the scan? X

Baby measures 8+3, with a strong heartbeat! Phew! This is the furthest I've got, just need to get through the next month.

Now to do ds's first afternoon at pre-school...

Yay for dachs and yay for digi great news all round - now can we have some bfps to top the thread off please?

CD20 for me, still no peak on my monitor but 11 days of high so far DH losing the will to live! Have phoned the monitor helpline to see if they can help but in the meantime am trying to get DH to SWI every other day at least

Waves to freezing how far are you now?

Waves to all others and sorry for not name checking - oh good luck on the 2ww tina x

Brilliant news digi - so pleased for you!

LadyM when do you brave a scan?

Loup23 I bet the dh didn't realise there would be a point where he would call enough! I love the idea of a call to the help line - I have images of a conversation along the lines of 'I've broken him ...'

Waves to all..

D I G I 8+3 = Brillliant!!!! (and good luck with pre-school) xxxxx

Hi everyone

Excellent news for Digi and Dachs - all the best to you both, so pleased for you!

Hope everyone else is doing ok with work/school and stuff

Yay Digi that's brill news.

And here's another for dachs just because....

Sorry tomboy I knew I would forget someone

Loup I'm 22 weeks.

Waves to all

Yay Digi congrats

Digi hooray for 8+3! Here's to an uneventful next few weeks, and an uneventful few months after that!

Woohoo! That's fab news digi I'm thrilled for you!

Freezing I have as yet unexplained hypermobility in my joints which was only discovered when I saw specialists for a growth in my knee which turned out to be a meniscal cyst. I still get quite a bit of pain (I think the op made things worse tbh) so I get bumped back and forwards from gp to hospital and no one seems to know the answer. I get told to do strengthening exercises and take painkillers I kind of hope I get a resolution via the blood results.

Do you have quite a lot of pain? I try not to take ibrobrofen etc too much as it can delay ov! There's no easy life is there?!

xx

Hello, can I join you? I've been lurking for a day or two in the hope of getting some positive baby-post-mc news to cheer me up and give me hope after my second mmc. I have never before posted on MN (gulps) so I'm a little nervous!

So, here's my history. Have 1 DD b. Sept 2009. Textbook pregnancy, no problems. Found out I was pregnant again in February, 12wk scan in April showed mmc at 6wks. Had to wait a week for rescan which confirmed mmc. Opted for medical management as too much of a wuss for ERPC. Bleeding lasted for almost 5 weeks then readmitted for scan as retained products. Told most probably 'bad luck'. Pregnant again at the end of July, booked in for private 'reassurance scan' at 8wks which turned out to be anything but. Rescanned 12 days later and confirmed second mmc. Opted again (like a fool) for medical management which happened last Wednesday.

I thought I was fully prepared for the horror again but it's turning out to be even more difficult second time round. I'm still bleeding a lot and passing quite large clots and bits of tissue (sorry for TMI). EPU keep saying it sounds normal...(!) I just can't wait for it to be over.

Anyway, I'm keen to move onwards and upwards and try and do as much as I possibly can to ensure that next time I have a healthy little baby. I honestly don't think I can handle a third mc...My DH is finding it a lot harder this time too.

We want to put this behind us as soon as physically possible (I will be demanding a rescan at the EPU then charting for a month - which I have never done before - and TTC after the first AF). I'm trying to be sensible and proactive (which is hard when I feel completely insane!). My PCT will not send me for tests unless I have a third mc, particularly as have healthy DD. I am only 31, DH is 34 - we're fit and healthy, non-smokers etc etc so theoretically this is just bad luck...times two. I've read the study on unfussy uterus and I think this might apply to me as I have got pregnant on first attempt all three times, no matter whether I thought I would be fertile at that time. Maybe my body is accepting embryos it shouldn't? I've been researching everything I possibly can and I wondered if I should ask my GP about the the following: taking asprin, using charting to only TTC at the optimum time, taking omega 3 as well as Pregnacare. I've ordered Taking Charge of your Fertility and the Lesley Regan book as well as a thousand Ovulation tests......I just want someone to tell me what to do to make it work next time! I'm so scared of it happening again.

Sorry for the hugely long post - I tried to be as concise as possible!

Thanks xxxx 'waves'

Hi itsa I am so sorry you are going through all of this but this thread is a good place to be. I have been around far too long. I have had a mmc in Sep last year, a chemical pg in Dec and a natural mc in April - nothing particular wrong other than quite a high level of stress in my life!! I have two DDs and the general medical assessment seems to be bad luck and just try again. What I would say, having been here a while plenty of ladies I started with have had their babies now or are at various stages of being healthily pregnant - the most likely outcome is that you will have a happy bean at the end of all this - doesn't make this stage anymore easy to endure though. Be kind to yourself - let yourself grieve. Almost a year later I finally seem to have let go of my need to control it all and have finally sobbed uncontrollably mourned.

Welcome itsabear
So sorry for what you've been through and still going through. It sounds like you're looking into all the right areas (although I don't know much about 'unfussy uterus'. If you want to look into another area you could read Dr Alan Beer's Is Your Body Baby Friendly. It's quite an intense book (v sciencey), but it does look into immunology which Lesley Regan hasn't covered in her book (nhs are still running trials).
I too had a seemingly easy pregnancy with my ds born in 08 and have since had 4 miscarriages. I had all the recurrent miscarriage tests on the nhs after mc#3 and then when I went onto mc again (I took aspirin in that pg, but turned out to be chromosomally abnormal) I decided to pay for private immunological tests. I was found to have high levels of natural killer cells and have taken steroids during this pregnancy in order to suppress my immune system from rejecting the embryo. So far it seems to be working.

I know not everyone can afford to have private testing (the consultant I saw, Mr Shehata, does take nhs referrals but it's a longer waiting list), but the way I rationalised it was that we'd be spending less on having a baby than we did on our car. It was the best thing I ever did - really helped me feel like I was taking control.

Chances are your two miscarriages were genuinely bad luck and you'll go onto have a successful pregnancy next time, I'm in a very small minority of women who have had three or more mc's. Trying again is very scary, anything you can do that helps you feel that little bit more in control is a good thing. My consultant, even without a diagnosis, recommends taking Pregnacare plus (with omega 3), 25micg vit d3 and 75mg of aspirin 8 weeks prior to ttc and then to continue till week 12. I found the vit d3 to be especially helpful in lifting my moods. Aspirin made me bruise easily so I stopped for a while till I got my bfp. HTH!

Thanks to both of you for your warm welcome and for the advice! :) I'm sorry that you have also gone through mcs. It?s just so horrible and unfair.

AandR - I hope you get pregnant again very soon.

Digi - just looked at thread above - congratulations! That certainly gives me hope.

I feel like I am in quite a lonely place at the moment, particularly as practically all my friends are pregnant, including 2 of my best friends who are due at the same time I was. I think I'm bringing people down and spreading misery...

What feels so scary is thinking that it's not a 'trial and error and maybe I'll get pregnant' thing - it's a 'if this goes wrong again I'll have another miscarriage'. I realise there's not that much I can do but I'm a control freak planner by nature. I'm going to get myself some vit d3 to take as well as my Pregnacare and Omega 3 as well a looking into the asprin. I assume I shouldn't take asprin while I'm still bleeding from the mc.

I've actually compiled some studies and articles for my GP to look at so she can advise further. I'm fortunate enough to have a very understanding female GP of a similar age to me who is being supportive. Going to google Mr Shehata now. We don?t have a lot of spare cash at the moment as I?ve gone PT since returning from mat leave and we?re trying to do up our house. However, like you say, it?s money well spent if there?s a chance it will help. I feel like I?ve been pregnant/miscarrying for nearly all of 2011. Will look up that book too. Thanks.

Right, I?m heading for bed now. Goodnight!

slightly worried I've killed the conversation

itsabear don't worry, you haven't killed the conversation! This thread isn't always as fast moving as it has been the last couple of days. Am on a shoot at the moment so just lurking between takes but will post properly!

Hi

Hello to bear, don't worry, it's sometimes a bit quiet on here. Sorry for your losses. It's great that you've got a sympathetic gp, the most I got off mine was an off the record promise of an early scan if I get pregnant again. I've tried the Pregnacare Conception vits, they've got d3 in but not omega 3. I've stopped them now though because they're quite expensive and didn't seem to work for me (I appear to have a fussy uterus - that study is very interesting though, I read it after my mc). I hope that your wtf cycle ends soon to get you back on track

Any news from yrmotb or battery?

Great scan news digital

Still waiting for ov here...still got ewcm though, although this month we're trialling every other day rather than every day (worked last time !)

Hello, I've just watched the opening of the rugby world cup - with views of the fireworks in the city below out our windows

Ah well, welcome itsabear I'm on my phone so can't do a full response at the moment, but I'm sorry for your losses.

digi and dachs great news both of you, just got to keep going but you're off to good starts now.

I'm hanging in there, getting worse mentally I think as time goes on - think I might drop in on the freak-out thread even though I hate the idea bouncing on it and then having to leave again.

I'm doing as much as I can to distract myself,

... By pressing post message too early.

Think the nurse will invite me for a scan next week, hcg continues to track well, but I'm really struggling with the idea of a scan. Seeing a hb at this stage will just raise hopes but for me it's what happens later that is important. Anyway, eyelids drooping. More tomorrow with a bit of luck.

Lol AndR at breaking DH! I finally got my peak yesterday and today with a temp rise today so am 1dpo and entering the dreaded 2ww again.......

Hi and welcome to itsabear sorry for your losses, there is great support here from all the lovely ladies which I hope helps. Good luck to you.

Belated congratulations to ladymaybe really hoping you have an uneventful 9 months - great news. V envious of you watching the fireworks at the RWC!

Good luck for this month tina hope that every other day works, I have a feeling I depleted DH's stocks by acting like a rampant rabbit over the last few days

22 weeks freezing over half way! Do you know if it's a boy or girl?

Waves to all others who are lurking and hoping you all have lovely weekends x

Hi All - now I will tell you something if you promise no whooping as I am in complete denial and certain it is actually a cp and my symptoms seem to desert me every time I think about them and I have no idea how I will get through this and the thought of going through another mc is almost too much to bear .... as you may have guessed I had a faint bfp this morning. Off to the GP to beg for progesterone. I feel leaky so I am not holding out much hope but as you can tell - all my calm has deserted me for the moment.

Oh wow AandR - I'm going to get excited for you anyway! Congratulations!! And as I said to LadyM denial is completely normal.