Sixth Form Common Room part IV - ttc and pregnancy post mc

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This is the place to be if you are ttc post mc / pregnancy loss and need a little spot to call home.

Welcome GreenOlives sorry to hear about your losses, you poor thing. Wishing you a speedy recovery from your op, and hope your luck changes now

wiggle isn't it just? I seem to remember saying when I joined the thread at the start of my last cycle, I felt that this cycle would be the one. Seems I was right!

Thanks for the welcome ladies, I'm being spoilt rotten and very well looked after at the mo thanks wiggle. Physically I am already feeling much better than yesterday but emotionally I don't think its hit me at all yet - am waiting for that to happen as I'm sure it will at some point soon.
Fingers crossed for BFP for us both ceropegia!
And big congrats edward, fabulous news. As a newbie I don't know your history, do you mind me asking about your TTC journey or am I being terribly nosey?!

Are you under Singleton EPU edwards? That's where I went and was told I wouldn't get a reassurance scan next time round so if they told you differently I'll nag them if I ever need one!

Hi olives, welcome. It's worth asking your gp for a referral anyway, they can only say no after all!

Thanks GreenOlives No not noey at all. I'm not sure many people do know my history tbh. Anyway, I had one DS (3.7), started ttc casually (as in just didn't use contraception) in September last year, mc at around 5-6 weeks in May, then started ttc again properly (testing and using dates) in August. So to be fair my journey has been a breeze compared to some.

Tina I'm under Carmarthen as that's where they had the earliest appointment when I first rang with problems in March. We're about equidistant from both so I'm lucky in that I have a choice for antenatal care. (Although my antenatal care will be in UHW because of a hereditary condition that I carry, and DS was born up there too.) for you that you can't have reassurance scan at Singleton - I had my 12 week appointment there with DS and they seem to be very strict on antenatal checks, scans, etc.

Hooray edward! Fabulous news, and here's to an uneventful 8 months ahead of you.

Welcome olives, the universe well and truly owes you a break now I think. I hope your recovery continues apace and you get lots of emotional support.

Still no AF here. The witch is taking her sweet @$%£ing time this month. I almost tested again this morning just to make myself miserable be sure, but ever-sensible DH talked me out of it.

Just marking a spot so I can catch up on the thread after a lovely holiday in the sun - thought this was my month as made it to 14dpo with no spotting or AF (longest yet) only for AF to start on the plabne journey home.... double disappointment of getting back from holiday and having AF, DH and I really thought this was the month. Anyway, I see congratulations are in order for edward great news, here's to an eventful 9 months. tomboy hope a BFP comes your way soon... this thread is lucky recently!

Waves to all and will now go back through pages to see what you've all been up to - apologies in advance for not name checking

Welcome greenolives sounds like you've had an awful time - you're in good company here. We've all been through the ttc mill but the ladies on here are an amazingly supportive bunch.

Ladies I am totally floored by this sickness. I'm absolutely not complaining as obviously I'd rather have symptoms than not but (I kid you not) I cried in m&s today I'm feeling very very ill from the moment I wake up. I can't cook, I'm not eating properly. I think I need help

mouse I experienced sickness like yours with my DD - so bad that I actually got properly depressed about it...I really know how you feel, like there is no escape...not even in sleep.
Listen, I know it seems unbearable, but it WILL get better, and you will also somehow get used to it (I don't know how, but I did).
I'm sure you've heard a million ways of dealing with it, but just to add my two cent's worth - I experienced some relief with bananas (I know, YUCK, but if you can just get the first mouthful down, then it seems to help), and also nibbling on those dry water-biscuits, and sipping very cold carbonated water...tiny tiny little sips - this seemed to help me.
I hope it lifts soon for you - I know it's hard.
x

Thank you cero I'll try all of those things xx

Loup welcome back, did you have a nice holiday? sorry AF got you, fx for next month this place has been quite lucky so far. Thanks for the congrats too

mouse you poor thing, is it full on vomiting or just (not just, but YKWIM) nausea? Just try not to move too much (seems to set my nausea off, although it's nothing compared to what yours sounds like!) and try to keep hydrated. Hope you feel better soon.

It's just nausea ed so I feel like a bit of a fraud but I can't even walk round properly. I feel like I'm going to be sick but never am. Thank god it's half term this week!

congratulations ed hope you are all doing well here just a quiet weekend for me not much sff going on my and DH have had colds on and off :( maybe next month :)

Hurrah for edward!

In my news AF arrived yesterday so that's that. Went back to gynae with charts & she diagnosed corpus luteum deficiency & prescribed progesterone from next BFP (can't get it in Botswana). Anyone have any
experiences with Agnus Castus? Since it IS easily available. Have decided to go all out this cycle with SMEG, acupuncture, AC & double dose B6 & EPO (bonkersdesperate, moi?)
Need to sleep now - MIL in hospital in London with pneumonia & there may have been some wine this eve. Night all xx

edward - great news on the BFP... I fell asleep before you came back last night!

Zam In replenishing myself from my last loss before this BFP I took Selenium, Co Enzyme c10, Magnesium, EPO, Wild Yam and pre-conception vitamins... yep... I rattled when I walked!! About the only thing I didn't try was Agnus Castus although it was on my list of potential supplements!!

olive lovely to meet you - you seem to have had a very similar journey to me... I'm 35...DS is 3y2mo and was conceived easily...first month of trying, happy pregnancy etc... Started trying for #2 after DS was 14mo... Had ectopic in very similar circumstances to you - had period then pain then left tube removed under emergency surgery. Fell pg straight away... MMC at 8 weeks discovered at 12. Fell pg 6 cycles later... terminated for Downs. Am now 9 weeks with pg no. 5... and hopefully DC no. 2!

FWIW my hospital - St Georges Tooting did the repeat mc tests on us after my third loss - although they did note that it was more for our reassurance as we'd had three different sorts of loss - I'm sure you can ask to be referred to the RMC if you want.

Having lost a tube has 2 main implications... your fertility is knocked to about 70% as sometimes you'll ovulate from the tube-less side and the egg won't make it down to your womb as a result. That said I know someone who conceived non-id twins where both eggs came from the tubeless side - very inspiring!! The other implication is that you can't trust your period again - always do a pg test on the last day of each bleed would be my advice - buy a load of cheapies on ebay so you don't waste a £10 each month!! When you do get a positive test you need to get referred to EPU to have a scan at about 6 weeks to check that it's all in the right place... Losing one tube is awkward, losing two makes babymaking a totally different experience - IVF is your only option then...

Hope that helps. Be gentle with yourself and remember that while the scars on the outside are tiny the scars and damage internally is massive - I was told off by the doctor for forgetting that and not letting myself have enough time to heal.

Welcome greenolives sorry to hear everything youve been through, take good care of yourself for the next couple of weeks - knitter speaks wise words.

mouse oh dear, you should ask your gp/mw if they can prescribe anti-emetics to ease the nausea. Sounds like you're really struggling. You can get signed off if you're feeling too rough next week. Don't be a martyr.

Scan went well today. Baby happy, wriggling and playing peekaboo with it's hands. Feeling very reassured now that all the odd cramping and tightenings are just growing pains. Next scan in a couple of weeks time with the private consultant where he'll sign me off into the sole care of the nhs.

Hello all, and thanks again for making me feel welcome, I am really looking forward to getting to know you all.

mouse I had horrendous sickness with my DS, it was miserable knowing that most meals I ate would reappear shortly! Like ceropegia I found dry biscuits to be my saviour, the constant nibbling seemed to help the nausea and dry up that horrible excess saliva you get when you're about to vomit! Really hope you find something that works for you and if all else fails then see your GP for some meds.

tomboy I hope AF has stayed away today, have you caved in and tested?

edward Thanks for sharing your story, I'm glad you didn't think me too nosey! I certainly wouldn't describe it as a breeze, having a miscarriage is a crap experience not least because of the stress and worry it causes for future pregnancies, I hope with all my heart that the next 8 months are entirely uneventful for you!

knitter Thank you so much for sharing your story too, that is truly a shitty sequence of life events that you have experienced, I can't imagine how hard it must have been to find out about the Downs and have to make such a difficult decision. I'm so pleased that you are pregnant again now and I have everything crossed that this little bean is meant to be your DC2. Thanks so much for the info about fertility post-ectopic. I am a little concerned as my last 2 pregnancies took 13 months and 10 months to conceive and that was with 2 tubes but I have to stay hopeful. Great minds think alike with regard to never trusting my period again - I ordered 30 HPT from Ebay yesterday! I will need to check that I get a BFN when my hormones settle from the ectopic and then I will be testing religiously every month! Think I am definitely going to ask my consultant next week about RMC testing, just for peace of mind really - did you have the tests done in the end before you found out about this pregnancy?

digital A scan with a wriggly baby is fantastic - how far along are you?

I'm feeling less sore today, but am absoultely knackered. I had to sleep on the sofa as I can't lay flat in bed still at the mo (lots of wind pain from where they filled me with gas for the surgery!) and I just couldn't get comfy. Still, I'm chilling on the sofa now and my lovely mum is cooking roast beef for my dinner later, yummy.

Big waves to everyone, enjoy the rest of your Sunday.

Welcome olive, and sorry to hear about your losses. Glad you're being looked after today though - roast beef dinner sounds lovely!

Good news about your scan digital!

mouse - sorry to hear you're feeling so rough. How have you been managing at work? At least now you're on half term you can rest. I'm back to work tomorrow after a week off so have some planning to do tonight, I've been putting it off all day because of feeling rubbish! I'm not looking forward to dealing with the nausea at work, but hopefully I'll cope! It is reassuring to be feeling like this, but it's not easy, is it?

I'm counting down to my scan on Tuesday and starting to feel quite nervous about it. I really hope everything is okay. I've been googling like mad to find out the statistics of a pregnancy progressing after a positive early scan. As we all know, googling doesn't help things, but does anyone know? I'll be 8+3 by then I think. I'm hoping it will provide a bit of reassurance.

I hope everyone is doing well and having a restful Sunday.

twittwoo good luck for Tuesday, the consultant who did our early scan this time told me that if you've seen a hb at 8 weeks your chances of mc drop to 2%. My previous mc was at 16 weeks so I wasn't particularly reassured at the time but statistically of course he's right, and it's pretty good odds at that stage

ecow congrats on the bfp!! fab news!!

olives can't remember if I've already posted to you and can't scroll back on phone, but just in case, welcome to the thread. I'm sorry to hear about your losses, sounds like you've had a really tough time . I hope you get a sticky healthy bfp soon x

digi congrats on another good scan - that's fantastic news!!

zam I've never tried agnus castus although it was also on my list of things to try before the bfp - I had a v short luteal phase which I was hoping it could help with. In the event I went for acupuncture which managed to extend my lp from 7 days to 11-12 days, but did read some good things about agnus castus when looking into it.

Oh and mouse forgot to say, am sorry you're feeling so rough. Big hugs

Thanks Izzy, I had read a few different things so wasn't sure but that's really helpful to know. Thank you, and I'll let you all know how the scan goes.

I'm now trying to prepare myself a healthy meal consisting of pasta and vegetables instead of super noodles, which is secretly what I'm tempted to have!

for the wriggly scan digi.

Olives Sorry if I gave any mis-information re ectopic pg - Knitter sadly knows more about it than me so I'd listen to her! Wise words about the emotional scars too. I hope you manage to get comfy soon, sounds like you're in good hands!

Mouse Sorry you're struggling, you can pass some of the nausea over here if you like, I'm still not feeling any at present and would like a bit just to reassure. I'll swap you for some ginger biscuits..?

Zam really sorry af arrived . I hope the multi-vitamin-holistic-therapy-smeg plan works! I tried AC for a couple of months and it lengthened my cycle by a couple of days but it seemed to delay ov rather than extend my lp which is not what I wanted so I stopped taking it. I can def recommend acupuncture for ttc in general and EPO was good too. If nothing else it gives you lovely shiny hair!

Izz How long to go now?

Twittwoo Good luck for tues, I have a scan on Weds to look for heartbeat

wiggle, I'll be thinking of you on Wednesday. All the very best for your scan. You've been through such a tough time and I can't even imagine what things must have been like for you, so I have everything crossed for a happy and healthy pregnancy this time. How far on will you be by the scan? Good luck!

mouse hooray for half term, hope you manage to recharge your batteries a bit.

for the scan digi glad it went well! And good luck to Twittwoo and wiggle for your scans this week

greenolives glad your feeling a bit better today, did you enjoy your dinner? I had a beef roast at DM's house tonight, yum

Good luck for Wednesday wiggle ! I've got 5 weeks to go now, have just finished work which is lovely but dcs are at home this week for half term so there will be No Rest just yet. Tis great to get to Sunday evening and realise there's no work tomorrow though

Morning ladies!
Twittwoo and wiggle I have everything crossed for happy scan news this week and I shall be waiting to hear.
Dinner at DMs was lovely thanks edward, think I ate too much though which didn't really help with my post-op "windy" pain last night, poor DH has had to listen to a lot of trumping over the last few days!
Hope you manage to get a little bit of "feet-up" time Izzy despite half term. I remember how lovely it felt to know that I'd finished work for several months at the start of my mat leave with DS! How long are you planning on having?
DM has volunteered to look after DS this morning so I am taking it easy and have some of my lovely work friends coming over to visit (they are nurses so I shall be well looked after) Still don't feel that the emotional aspect of what's happened has kicked in - am dreading it but I'll deal with it when it happens I suppose!