Sixth Form Common Room part IV - ttc and pregnancy post mc

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This is the place to be if you are ttc post mc / pregnancy loss and need a little spot to call home.

Hi there, my scan is later today, so you should see news when you wake up tomorrow, please send good vibes

getawiggleon I'm so sorry for everything you've been through, it does seem as though our small crew have been through anything and everything on their journeys. I'm super pleased to hear about your BFP again, and really wish and hope it'll be totally perfect and smooth sailing this time around. Will the 10 week scan be able to reassure you that the same thing hasn't happened? I know the chances are tiny and you're on the mega folic acid, but it must be an extra layer of worry

Ceropegia again, welcome, but I'm so sorry for your later loss - just seems so cruel. I've had 3 consecutive MCs but all were earlier, around 8 weeks development, it must have been a devastating blow when you thought you were safe and I suppose had told more people. It sounds like it was a traumatic experiences. Good luck and I hope AF doesn't turn up on Friday

Gosh there's some difficult news here at the moment, we must be due a better turn.

Lily so sorry that you're having complications. It really must feel like a double-blow.

Zam, such a huge shame.

I have one final piece of sad news - I spoke to AandR privately earlier this week and unfortunately her pregnancy hasn't progressed and she is booked in for an ERPC this Friday. She's taking it all one day at a time and having a break from MN for a while but hopefully she'll be back at some stage.

I'm pleased there are a few rays of sunshine here - YRMOTB hoorah for being offered a seat and definitely looking preggo. Mouse Congrats on the sickiness - I know it's a double-edged sword but if it's helping you feel reassured then that's a good thing. Tomboy I'm going hope for good things, rather than just wierd/confusing things. Izzy oh yes! lady of leisure for a little bit now! congrats on starting your maternity leave. And welcome back FalconsMistress....oh and I stalked the grads thread and see there has been a happy arrival

Good luck for the scan ladymb looking fwd to hearing some good news later

Very sorry to hear about aandr . I can understand her needing a break. If you're lurking out there, I'm thinking of you xxx

zam I'm so sorry

Good luck today lady

Just wanted to quickly pop on and asnwer wiggle's q about nk cells. I don't get retested after bfp...or after 12 weeks. I took 25mg of pred from bfp to 12 weeks, then I dropped 5mg every three days. According to my consultant once you reach 12 weeks the risk of mc from nk cells attacking is gone because they disappear (or have no effect) once the placenta takes over. The only reason I have to keep taking it after 12 weeks is because you have to wean yourself off them slowly.
I'm a great believer in steroids helping those who've had recurrent mc's - but I know that it's strong stuff and you need to be absolutely confident in your treatment because the side effects can be quite bad in some people (although I was pretty ok while on them, the withdrawal was a little uncomfortable).

Big wave to all - but must dash as laptop is about to die...

oh bloody hell I missed that bit of Lady's post about AandR - so so sorry to hear that too

for zam and aandr tonight, thinking of you both.

Good luck lady. I'm at work all night so will lurk for news!

tomboy test for goodness sake woman

zam so sorry to hear your news, thinking of you. Same for aandr , poor thing, I totally understand the need for a break.

Lady hope the scan went well today!

tomboy I second Tina - (wo)man u!

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It's good news for me

Bean was super wriggly, measures about 6cm now, nuchal was 1.5mm, and the sonographer had a trainee with her so spent an age going through all the anatomy, from head to toes so we got a really good long look. I'm very relieved, and everyone at the rpl clinic downstairs was very happy too. They've invited me back next week, and then it'll be high risk pg clinic care from then. Very happy to have got this far.

for lady!

And I'm allowing myself the tiniest glimmer of hope...pink cm at 7dpo...

Fantastic news lady !!! . How many weeks are you now?

Hi everyone, just catching up on the news after having been away on holiday for a few days.

Zam - so sorry to hear your news. I hope you're being looked after.

Any more news Tomboy?

mouse - I hope your scan goes well next week.

I now have an early scan booked, and on the NHS too, even though my GP said it would be unlikely! I called this morning to make my initial appointments and when I asked about an early scan the lady put me through to the EPU. I spoke to a lovely midwife, who I also spoke to on the phone during my second mc, and although she said I was in a 'grey area' in terms of an early scan she sneaked me in for one anyway. They have a new set of criteria which determines whether you are entitled to one or nor apparently. So it's next week when I will be about 8+3, fingers crossed!

zam I'm so sorry

And aandr too I'm just gutted to read her news.

I just don't know what to say to both of you other than I'm sorry and I'm thinking of you.

lady. Yay for excellent scannage!!! Whoop!! Some happy news was needed!

Good luck to mouse and twit for forthcoming scans!

tina sounds promising!!

Hello everyone - back after ridiculously busy 24 hrs...am totally tempted to test today (should be tomorrow really). Only thing stopping me is extortionate price of digital test (don't like other ones). I might possibly cave in though...I FEEL pregnant (famous last words!)

Lady Thanks for your kind words - 3 consecutive mcs is rough...How does everyone keep going. Mc after mc is my biggest fear.

YRMOTB I love gardening, and Ceropegia is a plant I love (and also I got exasperated trying to find a name that wasn't taken so I thought of the weirdest plant name I could muster).

edward I think mc is mc - it doesn't matter when it happens - it's devastating and I'm feel so privileged to have found such a strong group of women.

twittwoo It seems like early scans are sometimes offered, sometimes not...did you have to push hard for it?

I'm very bad at keeping up with this amazing thread - forgive me!

Ceropegia - I don't feel like I had to push hard for the early scan really. I saw my GP about 2 or 3 weeks ago when I was very newly pregnant and, because of my previous miscarriages we agreed I'd wait until now to phone her again so she could arrange initial appointments etc. This was really just because I didn't want to get my hopes up and receive appointment letters if the worst happened again. At this stage I asked her about an early scan but she said the EPU would be very unlikely to do one so I left it at that. I called her today, as agreed, but she is off at the moment so I called to arrange the appointments myself. I asked about an early scan and the midwife agreed. I think I was lucky to get a lovely midwife on the phone though - she did say she had 'sneaked' me in. She also said that with previous miscarriages I hadn't used their resources (I chose to deal with them at home) which I think helped as she didn't see me as a 'drain on the system' so to speak! I think it really does depend on where you are and who you speak to, although I was told by two people that they have a new set of criteria in my area which determines whether you get one or not.

Good luck with the test!

Sorry for a post and run, just wanted to say I'm gutted for you aandr

And zam I hope you're wrong too but toy as well

Just for you collie here it is. (Note also my highest temp at 7 dpo ever)

I didn't test, but AF just came - gutting. :(

Ah gutted for you cero that sucks x

Thinking of you aandr (((hugs)))

Good luck tina [hsmile]

Thank you for the good scan wishes. One week to go. Still feeling awful so hopefully that's a good sign. Just waiting for dh to bring in more filthy take away food. Thank god for pregnacare!

Hope you're enjoying mat leave izzy [hgrin]

AandR So very sad to hear your news. I hope you've got plenty of support and everything goes as well as can be expected tomorrow. We're here if and when you need us

Zam Thinking of you too this weekend

Cero Sorry af arrived. It's the hardest part of the month, I hope she stays away next month.

Lady Brilliant scannage news . So happy for you. Hurray for the wriggling and great that you got to have an extra long look. My 10 week scan is to try and rule out the condition having occurred again. Although the neural tube closes at just 25-29 days into pg (before you know you are pg basically), anencephaly can't reliably be detected or ruled out until 10-11 weeks. And the pregnancies don't tend to miscarry, quite the opposite in fact; they usually go beyond 40 weeks. It's all a waiting game?

Digi I took prednisolone during my last pg (only 10mg though) for NKs. I'm a firm believer in the differences they can make to ladies who suffer rcm (I was prescribed them by Mr Taranissi who is a big advocate of immunes testing) I had a few raised eyebrows from the doctors/midwives at UCH though. Fine by me. I didn't suffer any real side effects and am pretty sure that the moonface was from eating my way through the first trimester rather than the steroids!

Mouse How many weeks are you now? I haven't felt a single pg symptom yet. Seem to remember the nausea kicked in at around 6-7 weeks last time though. I could do with feeling a little pukey just for reassurance! [freak emotion]

Twittwoo for lovely midwife and early scan

Off to stalk Tina's chart now?.

So sorry to hear AandR's news. If you're out there, I'm thinking of you.

Cero sorry to hear AF has got you.

Lady great news on your scan! You must be so relieved.

Tina sounds promising!

Well, I tested again this morning. Yet another BFN. I think that's pretty definitive as I'm on CD35 or more (I've kind of lost count -- well late in any case). I guess it's just my cycle still adjusting after the mc. I wish it would bloody well get on with it.

Lady great news!

cero sorry to hear AF arrived.

Ooh Tina ! Tentatively hopeful for you

Tomboy hope everything sorts itself out for you soon. I feel awful for goading now

I'm jumping between convinced I'm not and wondering if I am. mega
I want to buy a test tomorrow but have promised myself I'll wait until Sunday.

Ah well Tomboy, maybe it was an anovulatory cycle, they're quite common early on after MC.

Izzy How may weeks am I? That's a very good question! there was quite a lot debate as the bean was so wriggly it took ages to get a CRL. By dates I'm 11+4, at one point she measured me at 12+5, finally after getting up and weeing she got one that is the 6cm, which she said was 12+4 but because it's within a week of the LMP dates they're keeping my EDD as 6 May (which I think is a bit different to the UK, I think they'd shift it to match the scan because it's more than 4-5 days difference). Anyway. I've googled and come up with 6CM = 12+2, which is what my fertility friend pregnancy tracker is saying based on ovulation date. So that is what I'm going to use privately at least until it gets too confusing.

We're going to wait until next week's appointment to get screening test results before we tell DH's family and a few friends.

ceropegia sorry about AF turning up - disappointing. Take some time to give yourself a treat and take it easy.

Mousebacon my sympathy for the bleugness, and yes, hoorah for the prenatals, they were the only thing that made me feel like it wasn't a disaster that I was existing on peanutbutter or marmite toast. Things are much better for me now although evenings are still bad, especially when I attempt to cook. I think it's the smells, just gets overpowering.

Right, DS is making me feel guilty for being on here rather than paying him attention, so best get on with the day. We have a long weekend and the final of the Rugby world cup...with a bit of luck the weather will be good enough for BBQs.

Mouse, wiggle, tomboy, edward, thank you. Everyone is going through so much here. I wish I had a wand to make everything okay x

edward please don't feel guilty that you encouraged me to test. Truth be told, I was hoping someone would encourage a little bit. I'm not particularly annoyed about the BFN, just that this cycle is dragging on so long. (I'm also wondering what the persistent mild nausea was all about. I don't think that was all in my head as if I wanted to invent pg symptoms that wouldn't be where I'd start. Perhaps it was just a very mild bug.)

I wonder if any of you ladies can help? Like most of you will understand, we are reluctant to tell anyone about this pregnancy until at least 12 weeks but I have my booking in appointment in just over a week and I know they will ask questions about family history. I'm not all that close to my parents so I don't really know all the information I should, and DH probably isn't all that aware of his family medical history either. Should we just bite the bullet and tell our mums so we can ask the questions about medical history? Or, in your experience, is it not all that necessary?

Tomboy and ceropegia - sorry you didn't get BFPs this time.

Lady - good news!

Mouse - if it helps you to know, I'm feeling crap too! Headaches, nausea and sickness galore. I'm not complaining because I'm hoping it's a good sign, but it's hard going, isn't it?