so here it is, a new home for us newly updiffed ladies or still seeking that golden egg after a mc part 3

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ladies here it is our new home, ive tried my best, im not very good at the witty banter so hopefully this will do, get yourself comfortable it could be a bumpy ride with me at the helm!!!

What is worm doing.......come on post!!!

kool how was the kitchin planning meeing at JL? sounds very grown up. I won a kitchin planning competition at school/my region when I was 12 [proud emotion] so can probably provide tips Something to do with your 'work triangle' and not having too much space between sink, fridge and cooker (or something)

To be honest I really don't care/am not interested in thinking about how to get to hospital. I've totally delegated that to DP and if he cannot manage with 5 cab companies within 5 mins and 2 car clubs then there is no hope at all!

Hmm, I had an iphone before and hated the touch screen for typing and predictive text, made me so slow to communicate and I found it extremely annoying....

oooh must go as at work, will update more later......

Just let me leave these mini victoria sandwich cakes.....delicious

Sorry, another quick one for Kool - 27 weeks, amazing, so happy for you .

I'm doing pretty good too, nearly 22 weeks, so made it past the dreaded 20 week mark and feel I can finally calm down and believe its real. 20 week scan was all good and we have a pair of little boys in there . Do you know what flavour or did you stick team yellow? Hope DH is doing ok too xx.

Yes, come on worm, we're all rooting for you! Can't wait to hear your happy news

Ooh yellow with those credentials I should have had my kitchen planning meeting with you . I guess it was a bit grown up! I'm not a grown up though

Lovely skitoo feel free to hang out in here, as far as I recall you're in the same situation as the rest of us anyway. This is the loveliest thread, and I'm the last to be due at the moment so it'd be great if you cared to stay! I'm so excited for you and delighted that it really is Burt and Ernie! Have you got your head around twins? Wow! Yep, I stuck to team yellow and don't have any feelings about which I'm having!

Wow wombat, your poor friend, sounds exhausting. I must admit I'm still pretty scared at the thought of 2x2 hr stretches too tho!

Hi girls
Megan rose born 11.53 7lb 1oz . I'm smitten.
I've been very sick from anesthesia so still in recovery. X x x

Please don't mention on Facebook x

Wooo hoo worm how exciting....a pink one, what a lovely name. So happy for you, feeling all tearful. Hope sickness passes soon and you can enjoy your snuggles, can't wait for a piccy, never satisfied am I?

Hip hip hurrah.

Please don't mention on Facebook x

Congratulations worm! How very very kind to tell us so soon, a beautiful name (one of which is our girl's option if we have a pink one ). I'm sure you've been given a good anti emetic but if not, ondansetron is an excellent anti sickness drug and might be worth asking for. Will cause constipation if taken for too long but a one off will be fine. Lots of love, rest up now, can't wait to hear about your dcs' reactions! xxx

Ahhhhh I've just seen the pics on fb, she is so beautiful. How lovely and the pics with your other kids are spool cute too. Hope you are starting to feel better. Congratulations, well done, so happy for you.

Aw, congratulations on your beautiful baby girl Worm, really lovely name too. Hope you're feeling a bit better, many hugs and newborn snuggles xxx

Ah worm - simply wonderful news! - pics on fb are simply gorgeous and I love that name. I'm sooooo pleased for you - we've been there since you were here as broughthimround and it's brilliant to see your 3dcs together. Hope you are feeling less sick and loving those newborn snuggles xx

Hello all

How you doing worm have you made it home yet? How is the feeding going? Hope your recovery is progressing well.

I saw m/w yesterday, all good, she is in the correct position and 3 fifths engaged so things going in the right direction. Yesterday I also had a v bad pain in my heel and couldn't walk at all, m/w didn't know what to suggest and I'm not keen to see gp after last time but dr google was more helpful. Seems it could be pressure in my arches so I've bought some insoles and hope that helps.

I've been passed over to the mlu mw now so will see them from now until the und so may even get to meet the midwife I'll have on the day in advance. One more week of work and then the following week I am full of plans to attend water birth workshop and have lunch with lots of people! So she can come any time after that!

How is everyone doing?

Hi Honey's we're home!! (in a not net-huns tone)
Ah great news on the ML care yellow those water births look amazing, there was an amazing one on one born every minute last series, it should be on you tube somewhere but it was a beautiful to watch. It does sound like you bo is doing all that it should to get you there. Good old doctor google .

So time to share the long and boring deets

On the morning of CS I was scared, cried on way to hospital, we got there, shown to recovery room all very organised and peaceful. Surgeon (who looked no older than 18 years old) comes through to meet us, and says "I understand you are having a sterilisation today too"? NO I AM NOT! She gives me the talk about this being my 3rd CS and how much more dangerous each one becomes, and layed it on really thick. If I wasn't terrified before I sure was then!!
So we get called through after some comedy moments putting on our surgical stuff which eased the nerves. I didn't know the gowns were open at the back so had bare bum and DH was handed 2 tops for the scrubs and no bottoms so was sat in his boxers when they called us through. (they did eventually find him some)
The aneathatist (sp) was lovely, in fact they always are, She explained everything and the spinal block was put in all still very calm. I had no idea how many people were involved in a CS, the previous 2 had been emergencies so I had been too zonked out hadn't really taken it in then. There must have been 12 people in there!

TBContinued, Megs woken up............

Ooh, loving it so far! Do recommence! (it's nice to know that we already know there's a happy ending )!

Cuppa and a digestive anyone?
Gabes is asleep in his baby bjorn bouncer, he's a bit snuffly so think the slightly upright position is nicer for him. Can recommend it so far as a purchase, even though he's tiny and doesn't like his moses basket he seems happy in the bouncer (which doesn't bounce unless light pressure is applied, or like dh you yank it back like a catapult!)
Nipples hurt, this is my tmi fact. We have the latch ok, although he can get a little frantic and work his way free a few times before settling at the moment. I've been using the lansinoh religiously, and it does help, I think I'm just suffering general wear and tear. He does seem quite a bit heavier though, and more robust - already not quite a newborn!
PIL have now flown home and dh has a week's paternity left so we are just going to hunker down and chill out in pyjamas for the week. Oh, and sort out registering the birth, and child benefit, all the boring things!

Yes I'll go for a digestive, better have some prunes on mine.... I'm hearing you on the sore nipples, that lanisoh stuff is good hey, and apparently is available on prescription sparkly time for the babymoon to start for you.

Anyway I continue....
The spinal block made my blood pressure very low, which I was expecting as it happened last time, so it wasnt that scary when they had to tip the bed on its side and pump 5 bags of fluidy stuff into me!! I felt pretty grotty all the way through I can tell you!
When they opened me up it took them 40 minutes to get to the ureterus because I was apparently full of addesions from the previous 2 cs's and every one of these had spread to make it like a spiders web all attatched to different parts of my body. DH was watching as they had to clamp each one suture? it and get past it. Kool your a medical girl arnt you does that sound right? so once in it was very quick before Megan was out and she screamed staraight away. I had asked to be shown what sex it was rather than be told and couldn't believe it was a girl. DH had known all along, and I swear he refered to bump as He on 2 seperate occasions...........clever thing!

So onto recovery and the surgeons came back to see us and said in no uncertain terms they would recommend I never had any more children as it would be very dangerous. I had to stay in recovery for 8 hours as I was very sick from the low blood pressure which took 10 hours to go back to normal. The dc's came and we got them to look at Meg and try to decide girl or boy, and they both said girl so thats good! DD had been so keen on us having a girl and DS wasn't fussed so it was great to see their faces.

I will gloss over the 2 days spent in post-natal as I want to forget it as soon as possible, 5 hours sleep over 2 days spent in pain, off to the very back of mind please to that memory.

So we got home at 8pm, the dc's were absolute stars, so excited to be taking home their new sister home they hardly moaned at all in the 6 hour wait for discharge bless them. We even managed our usual spag bol tea in front of saturday night telly before Meg awoke.

DH who if you remember I had to bringroundtotheidea is absolutely smitten and has been ever since the first scan thank god! He is so good and I love him dearly [hormones emocion]

I'm very knackered as Meg is cluster feeding all the way through the night and I find it vertually impossible to sleep during the day. Sleep is over-rated anyway.......

Hope you are all well yellow how many more working days? are we onto an hourly countdown yet?

Wow worm what a story.......and such a lovely ending. Sounds like it all was a bit traumatic and the post natal stay sound horrid but look at you now.....a beautiful baby girl. So lovely to hear that everyone in your family is besotted with her and your other children especially. And your DH, sounds like a star.

I haven't got a bouncy chair yet sparkly but was thinking i'd need one. DP thought baby would either be in cot or feeding but i pointed out that there should be some other times in between when the baby needs stimulation or something.

Thanks for the nipple updates, I already have some of that cream. I've also been told cabbage in the fridge is good....not sure if that is true or not? So the feeding is going well worm apart from there being a lot of it through the night......you're milk came in ok and you've got the latch thing? I'm worried I won't get it right and the baby will starve/my nipples will fall of whilst i'm waiting for advice/help.

Yes, just 4 more working days!! Very busy week this week work wise so it'll fly by. I am feeling perfectly healthy and full of energy, it might not be the same by Friday but it's light at the end of the tunnel. It's actually quite fun to tell my mat cover what to do and what to expect and set up work and meetings and stuff to solve problems that I won't actually have to action/attend. I'm feeling v relaxed. I have set up lots of fun things/lunches for next week so that should be good fun. Although random strangers have looked at my bump and declared I will be early, but what do they know?

wombat you've been quiet, you ok? How did 6 week check go?

worm I just loved your story, thanks for sharing it. I'm mightily impressed about managing to get back for your spag bol! No, I'm not medical, I just know about anti sickness stuff because of DH, we're experts now! Sounds like it was quite a tricky procedure in the end, so I'm glad you didn't have to stay in for any longer than you had to endure. How's your actual physical recovery going? Sore or bearable? Your DH and 2 other DCs sound wonderful so i'm sure you're being well looked after. Cluster feeding sounds exhausting but as though you're managing with the feeding itself? All tips welcomed!

sparkly your plan for the week sounds like just the thing! I hope you get on well - yup, throw a digestive over this way please

yellow great news on your 3 fifths engagement! How's your heel now? Sounds like you're very chilled about work and your upcoming mat leave, and great idea to have planned fun stuff for next week.

Hi to wombat and wellie (and skitoo if you're still reading)

So fab to hear your story worm and I loved the fact you managed a "normal" sat night in - that must have really rounded things off beautifully for you. Your DS and DD1 sound adorable and your DH too (gosh, feeling quite teary!) Cluster feedng at night and not sleeping during the day sounds tough - hope that passes soon. You're a superstar sharing all the deets -thanks for that and big smooches to Meg (and you!)

Yes, the nips do hurt sparkly but it does get easier, I promise. Very jealous of your babymoon with just the 3 of you - we never got that but I'd have loved it, I know. Enjoy every second. A tip on the lansinoh is to put it between your legs while you feed as it makes it sooooo much easier to apply afterwards - yellow - if you haven't squeezed some out of the tube already, you'll see what I mean when you do - it's quite solid when not warm.

How are you feeling kool? What are your next appts etc?

Sounds like you are in a very positive state of mind yellow - I know what you mean about handing over stuff - it's wonderfully refreshing n'est ce pas? And enjoy all your lunches - that was my favourite part of finishing work The cabbage leaves thing is good for engorged breasts - I did it in hospital and it did seem to work but the leaves wilted pretty quick as my boobs were so hot! I was worried about the latch thing etc but it sounds as if you've kept yourself well educated. As well as the workshop, I also bought the NCT Breastfeeding for Beginners which I'm continuing to find useful now. Best advice I can offer is to get help early and in person - as soon as you feel there is a problem. Even if by the time someone gets to you, you're sorted, at least you can get affirmation you're doing it right.

All ok here although the weeks of little sleep are definitely beginning to take their toll. I'm feeling pretty weary with the repetitive nature of looking after a newborn and his nightly screamathons are taking their toll - I pretty much shouted at Jack the other night .... All my other friends with newborns seem to coo and gurgle over theirs which I do in public (and genuinely so - I love showing him off), but find myself getting a bit bored and frustrated when it's just the 2 of us - I wish I didn't feel that way as the 2 of us time is so precious..... 6 week check is tomorrow which I think will be ok but I know I have been overdoing it with lugging stuff around etc. as stomach is quite tender. Hope I don't get a telling off although it would be quite deserved if I did - I probably haven't been cautious enough. Sorry for the down post - I put it down to lack of sleep.

Waves to all and snaffles several digestives

Just popping my head in to share a digestive with you wombat and to offer a hug if you need one? I think you're amazing, so honest about the ups and the inevitable downs. I'm sure most new mums feel the same, even if they don't say so. It's no wonder it's starting to take its toll, the initial excitement is probably wearing off and the reality of screaming, sleeplessness and boredom are hitting home. Oh no, my intention was to cheer you up but I fear I'm not doing too well!! All I can say is that by acknowledging it shows that you are dealing with it, I'm sure it doesn't feel like it in the middle of the night but you are. You're doing an amazing job. Please look after yourself...not good to be overdoing it and making things feel tender. Right I'm just digging deeper holes so how about I go and put the kettle on?! xx

Soz, meant to say, no excitement here, next ante natal is tomorrow, 28 weeks, so 3rd trimester begins, yay!

Hi girls
Well you are doing brilliantly wombat . Babies are pretty boring for the first 3 months to be honest. Once you are over the initial excitement you get little back until you can have some 2 way communication. I had a complete meltdown the other night when meg was cluster feeding in fact most nights I consider giving up breastfeeding .
She was weighed today and had lost 6% . Mist babies drop weight ( unless you are super norks sparkly ) and as meg had a whole day where she didn't feed I am chuffed it wasn't more.

My advise is to get yourself organised before you start. I have set up a nest of pillows with the footstool v pillow remotest, phones, drink snacks. It makes it less tedious.
Congrats on 3rd tri kool. 12 weeks will fly by.

Thanks so much for your kind words ladies - I'm very touched. I think you're right kool that most mums won't admit to the boredom side of things and worm thanks for the advice, particularly as you must be super-tired right now. Great news on Megs weight - 6% is nothing.

Feeling much better today for 3 reasons - 1) your lovely messages, 2) a great meet-up with just a few of my ante-natal group yesterday afternoon (not the whole 20 odd which just makes me feel daunted) and 3) had my 6 week check-up with my ob/gyn today who was just so lovely - she said I looked amazing, that breastfeeding exclusively to this point is a massive achievement (and was v funny about his weight gain - he's gone from 3.9kg to 5.1kg - which I think is 8lb 8oz to 11lb 2oz and said I must have butter, not milk in my boobs!) and when she looked at my scar / tummy she was really impressed and said I had "a wonderful body" - I was tempted to ask her to write that down! - I think it gave me a real confidence boost! Or perhaps I'm just completely narcissistic! I had left DH here with a bottle of expressed milk and while I was geninuinely sad to be leaving Jack behind, it was amazing what a liberating experience it was - it can be done! I realised it is the first time I have been without him and it's made me appreciate him so much more and also realise that it can be done and it's incredibly beneficial for us both! So I think it's safe to say that wombat is back on track - for now anyway as I'm not under any illusions that life will continue to be this rosy! We're off to the docs for Jack's 6 week check-up soon so hopefully that will go as well as this morning.

Yay to kool for getting to 3rd trimester - how was your appt today?

You must be on an hourly count-down by now yellow. I hope your colleagues give you a good sending off.

How's the babymoon going sparkly? Hopefully you're too snuggled up and content to post!

Waves to all and leaves warm chocolate brownies xx

Just typed a long message that was eaten by mn. Too cross to do it again right now, will just leave this lemon drizzle cake