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Charters Anonymous Volume 7. Charting and shagging our way to victory!

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digitalgirl · 22/05/2011 08:12

Previous thread here

Join us in egg-hunting, cm analysing, chart-stalking and plotting our way to a bfp. Or just generally losing the plot. All welcome!

OP posts:
Scrummybumb · 26/06/2011 09:14

Woohoo Grin congratulations!!!!!

AmandaCooper · 26/06/2011 10:16

Congratulations!!

havealittlefaithbaby · 26/06/2011 11:37

Fantastic news! Grin

digitalgirl · 26/06/2011 13:19

Congrats sanity lovely news!

OP posts:
jaggythistle · 26/06/2011 13:53

popped on for a sneaky stalk and logged in especially to say yaaaaaaaaaaay!

Congratulations :)

jaggythistle · 26/06/2011 13:53
IslandIsla · 26/06/2011 14:54

congrats sanity GrinGrinGrin

weimy · 26/06/2011 15:28

Congrats Sanity!!!

Have you ov'd karbea? I just got a peak on my monitor and managed to get some swi in I also noticed for the first time the egg stuff everyone talks about. Last time I got two peaks will see what happens.

Have decided that this is it for me after this month, I know eight months is not long but I am tired of living in two week stints and OH and I decided that if nothing happened we did not want to find out why.

Poppyjen · 27/06/2011 09:12

Congratulations sanity great news!

Well I finally ovulated. At last (CD27) I have the lovely red lines and I am confident they are correct. Had positive OPK at that time too and CM seems to tally as well, seems we times the SWI pretty well too (we have "high" rating...so proud so proud... Wink )

So 4DPO here Smile

EDD would be March 15th if we manage it this time around, which is the same as my EDD for DS. Crazy.

weimy so hoping that this is your month, so sorry to hear that you feel like you want to stop after this month, but it is such a personal decision for you and your OH.

Happy Monday everyone Smile

Karbea · 27/06/2011 09:34

Hi weimy sorry to hear you want to stop, I feel very differently about it now than when we started, I don't really see the point in charting or using my monitor as I'm convinced it won't happen for us, so apart from this month when I need to know when I ov'd I'm far more relaxed about it, and don't stress about af as I know it'll turn up, I'll be sorry to see you go as it's nice to have someone in a similar boat.
Anyway, yesterday ff said I ov'd on Thursday, but this morning it's changed it's mind and thinks I still haven't!!! I'm going to assume I dud on thursdayregardless and get my 2nd blood test done this Thursday.

Mitzimaybe · 27/06/2011 16:11

sanity that's brilliant news; congratulations!

Poppy sounds very promising, FX for you.

digital Hope your ovaries test out OK this time. The wait was really frustrating for me, too, this month because I knew I'd totally messed up my dates and there was zero chance of me being pg so I just wanted to get it over with and onto the next cycle.

Scrummy Hope all your tests bring back positive results ? either everything's ok, or everything's treatable. Yes, I really hope I ov next weekend. Seems quite likely given the last 2 months' charts. Saw DP yesterday and he asked about plans for next weekend and I said "*ing like bunnies". (His response: "Not if the weather's this hot ? far too energetic.") Shall we just say he's not exactly as committed to the idea as I am... in fact not keen at all. Sigh. Guess I'll have to dig out the sexy undies (sorry tmi.)

weimy Whether to keep trying or stop can only be a personal decision but if you feel the time is right for you then it's all good. It's not like you're taking an irreversible step, is it? Temping and testing and charting and timing sex can kind of take over so you forget how to just relax and enjoy life. Good luck whatever you decide.

Karbea Do you want to link to your chart so we can all have a good nosey?

Karbea · 27/06/2011 16:47

mitzi... here you go www.fertilityfriend.com/home/332dc0 would be great to get another opinion.

Urgh just spoke to the docs and they can't find the results of my fh and lsh tests grrr!!!!!

duckdodgers · 27/06/2011 21:24

Congratulations sanity Wine How long have you been ttc?

jaggy - CD1 sucks yes it does. Sad

weimy - sorry about feeling generally. Yes CD1 ALWAYS sucks but gets a wee bit better once CD4 arrives for me. Do what you think is best for you and DH, I felt the same when ttc DS2 (I was with a new partner) - I never truly "gave up" because even if you dont chart I was always aware roughly when I was ovulating and couldnt resist some sex around then - it seemed a waste if I didnt Grin . It wasnt easy, I wont pretend that - but 18 months later when I got my BFP it was worth it, it will happen for you, just believe that.

digital - belated happy birthday wishes, and sorry about AF. Sad

Im stumped and I need opinions. My cycles are short (average 24 days) and I generally ovulate around CD13/14. My CM is hard to monitor because I never sem to Dry up so to speak, its always creamy and watery and Im never sure what to say, I only really notice EWCM. Ive been trying OPKs and have got to know how to interpret the cheapys I use - but this month I got a different brand from Ebay, and theres always been a line, it was def as dark as control line on Saturday there so Ive out it in. But its CD 20 - and still no definite ovulation, Im at a loss as to whats happening. Can someone take a look and let me know your opinions please?

www.fertilityfriend.com/home/3053f2

digitalgirl · 27/06/2011 23:01

karbea I'd say based on your overlay that it was either cd13 or cd14.

duck am stumped too. Although last month you did have a fallback so perhaps you did ov on the day of +ve opk - best to keep on till you're sure. I had plenty of false positives on the opk's last cycle so am chucking them away this cycle.

Have appointment at rmc tomorrow. Just realised need a copy of the massive questionnaire I've filled in so have sent out dh to photocopy at this ungodly hour. Think it's the least he can do when I'm having a load of blood drained for the same tests I had last year plus fanjocam whilst on af. Oh the glamour.

OP posts:
duckdodgers · 28/06/2011 07:10

Thanks digital. Smile Good luck tomorrow at the clinic, youve made me laugh here (sorry ) with your description "fanjocam" Grin

Playing about with FF this morning, Ive discovered if I take out the positive opk it will put me in at ov for last Wednesday so 6 dpo. Even more confused because I was sure it was a positive. Confused

freelancegirl · 28/06/2011 09:21

Hello everyone. Can I join as a newbie to this thread? I had a rather long-drawn out mc at 12 weeks which started in March and am now (as from today) on steroid treatment for very high NK cells. It means I have to work out when I am ovulating so I have been temping (on fertility friend) since CD4 and am now on CD16.

Temperature is raised for the second day in the row but I have just noticed that Fertilty Friend reckons I ovulated on CD13 three days ago. And has last Weds, Thurs and Fri as 'green days'. Lucky we were SWI then as I thought I would ovulate later! SWI was on Tues, Thurs, Fri, Sat, Sun & Mon. Damn, should have done it Weds as well but I didn't realise that FF would put me down as ovulating before the temp rise. Oh dear, I am such a charting newbie. Have I buggered up my chances this month...?

Am also worried that my temp rises have coincided with the two hottest days of the year so far and that I have got those wrong too! And weirdly this month I haven't really noticed any EWCM (ah, I love the way we can launch straight into TMI on such threads :)

Congratulations on the recent BFPs. I read this entire thread on the train yesterday as it was fascinating stuff and v informing. Sorry this post is a bit me, me, me I will get into the swing of things and hopefully be able to advise others some time soon, when I know what I am doing more.

havealittlefaithbaby · 28/06/2011 13:06

Welcome! freelance!
Can you give us a link to you chart so we can have a good nosy? I think it sounds like you've a pretty good chance of hitting the right time, don't stress too much!

freelancegirl · 28/06/2011 17:48

Hello 'Faith and thanks for the reply. Cool name! I would love an opinion on my chart, crap as I think I have been with things.

Is it just ok to go to 'Share' and then post the link they give me, like this:

My Ovulation Chart

I did try to do hyperlink but it didn't like it

Oh and here was a link it said was good for 'message boards...'

[url=www.fertilityfriend.com/home/35dcaf/]My Ovulation Chart[/url]

havealittlefaithbaby · 28/06/2011 18:20

Right it won't work quite like that, I've had trouble too, I'm.new to sharing my chart! Go to sharing, set up. You need to select the chart you want available. Add chart down the bottom. The web address is at the top.

Poppyjen · 28/06/2011 19:23

freelance try www.fertilityfriend.com/home/35dcaf that should be your chart Smile

Poppyjen · 28/06/2011 19:34

Oh and meant to add, with SWI Tues, Thurs, Fri, Sat and Sun I think you should definitely have your bases covered! Grin My goodness you must be exhausted Wink You have the crucial 2 days before and the day of ovulation covered which should be more than sufficient!

As long as you took your temp first thing when you woke up before getting up etc then I don't think the hot weather will have had much impact, I would suggest just note in in the notes section of your chart so that if there is any ambiguity you know the circumstances. Should be fine though.

I notice that you have dotted lines, does FF say why? Should be in the information under your chart when you look at it (this info isn't shared). It may be because you have open circles on your chart around the time of ovulation, usually this is because there is something unusual about your temp data. For example I had these on my chart when I had taken temp later than usual so the data is not considered to be as accurate.

I am fairly new to charting too (3 cycles so far) but it is fast becoming a fascinating project to get me through my crazy long cycles and to let me know what my body is up to!

freelancegirl · 28/06/2011 20:28

Ah I love you thread folk already! Thanks for the info and for sorting out the link for me 'Faith and Poppy. I really appreciate it. I had a bit of a chuckle when you said we must be exhausted - I think we are! We SWI yesterday and I think I will chuck one in (!) tonight as well just in case. Then maybe go back to every other day and then just chill out so I don't over do things. Just in case I haven't really ovulated. Yippee - not only can I get obsessed with, twitter, Facebook, youtube, mumsnet and fertility friend but I can also now let other people share my newfound charting obsession Grin. Lucky i work from home and don't have a boss...

Poppy I have dotted lines as I was crap and didn't take the thermometer away with me for that weekend. The circles are because I took my temp a good hour or so later than I did in the proceeding days but I was still in bed and had just woken up on all occasions. Oh, also the first two temps can be ignored as I had been lying in bed for ages before I remembered on the first day and wandering around awake for ages on the second! So it's only really from CD9 I can start taking it vaguely seriously.

So - charting basic question I realise but - do we ovulate BEFORE we get a temp peak then?

Um. What do we do now..? Where are you at with your charts, cycles etc?

Poppyjen · 28/06/2011 21:30

Hi freelance the way I understand it is that before ovulation your body is producing a hormone that is cool, hence the lower temps. After you ovulate your body produces another which is warm so you have a temperature rise and your temp stays high for around 2 weeks and then if you are not pregnant usually drops again just before you have your period.

Basically the answer to your question is yes ovulation happens just before the temp rise. Sometimes you see a temperature dip (an "ovulation dip") followed by the rise. This is why charting is not so good for telling you when you should be SWI, as it can only confirm that you have already ovulated after a 3 day temp rise. The best way I understand is to chart your cervical mucous as well and also maybe use OPKs - both of these will give you a "heads up" before ovulation then you can use the charting to check when it actually happened so you know when to test/expect AF.

If you have regular cycles you can compare several charts and see ovulation happening around the same time each cycle.

If you want to have a look at mine you are very welcome link is here and I think if you look up the thread a bit there will be a link to a "sister thread" with everyone's chart links in so you can stalk their's too Wink

So in answer to your second question, what we do now is keep taking the temps, and hope that they stay high Smile

A word of warning though, sometimes especially if you have a red dotted line indicating ovulation, FF will change its mind about when you ovulate so best to keep at the SWI (as much as you can Smile ) just in case ovulation actually happens later that you expect. This happened to me 3 times last cycle!

Good luck, hope that all makes sense let me know if not...

havealittlefaithbaby · 28/06/2011 21:58

Oh yes futility fiend as we call it on our house. Drove me insane one month changing it's mind then at the end said 'hmm not sure you ovulated at all, you may have ovulated one day between cd8 and 14! Think it was anovulatory.
Have you done the charting course on FF freelance? It's quite good. Of course the fertility encyclopaedia is Taking charge of your fertility by Toni Weschler. Helped me learn to chart and still my first point of reference!

freelancegirl · 28/06/2011 22:36

Ahh, that's what a chart should look like :) It all looks good. Not sure what the bottom bit is but I guess I will have to work that out. Thanks Poppy, this is all really handy.

Faith I haven't yet watched the Futility Friend tutorial videos but I really need to :)

I thought that it if you weren't pregnant temp would go down pretty soon after ovulation so am glad you told me otherwise I would have wrongly assumed staying warm was a sign I was pregnant.

I haven't charted CM this month as unusually for me I haven't really noticed it. I think I have been so preoccupied with SWI and charting that I haven't quite been on the ball. I think I might have noticed some a couple of mornings, but am too bleary in the morning and haven't noticed any later on in the day, which I always thought I got before.

I am having loads of lower twinges at the moment - feels like twinges in my left ovary. Has anyone else had that? It's for that reason I don't really want to stop SWI as maybe I am still ovulating? Or am I just being dim?

Oh BTW I guess I should add I am being treated for very high NK cells and today took my first steroid so I could be having a whole manner of weird symptoms in the next few weeks.