Just MC and ready to try again? Pack your cake, wine and tightie whities and join us for more ranting, weeping and most of all laughing! All welcome! (Part 16)

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Hello! If you have recently miscarried and are thinking of or actively trying again come and join us! We offer plenty of cake, tea and wine if needed! Come in and laugh, cry and rant as needed, and don't be afraid of asking whatever questions you need answers to and we'll try our best to answer them.

Add yourself to the stats list whenever you are ready.

wttc = waiting to try to conceive
ucl = usual cycle length
wtf cycle = the time after your mc when you have no idea whats going on with your normal cycle

Lets hope this is a lucky thread and we all get our bfps!

stats to follow

Part 15 here

Ah missg sorry about your BFN too...so so easy to become totally convinced about what's going on in there when we don't really have any way of fully knowing until seeing the results on a pee stick...how dignified the whole thing isn't!! ...hope you're doing ok?

Have a feeling we're all going to go slightly nuts in the next week as there's quite a few of us in the 2ww or the latter part of the WTF cycle who will be testing, waiting to test, being impatient and so on!

Roll on the full-on metalling!

PS cuttle so sorry...meant to say huge congrats for your BFP!!!

Manda - I'm a solicitor and unfortunately my hours end when my clients want them to (except when dtd time is upon me, in which case clients get my voicemail ).

*Pie) - curently 7 dpo. AF due next wednesday if my cycle has gone back to normal.

Sorry about the worktop Blue - that must be really frustrating. Sorry about yours and MissG's BFNs.

My cat is feeling better now. He did have to go to the vet and was apparently very affronted when his temperature was taken, but they dosed him up on antibiotics and now I get to play catch-the-cat every evening to put cream on his ear. This would be easier if he didn't recognise the tube.

gah sorry about the BFN's blue that is your WTF cycle in full swing now then!

whatso big hugs and sorry your gran is ill, i know how hard it is but sending you the hugs

really sorry for quick post but am just at the end of my lunch, we are away this weekend so i will catch up with you all on Tuesday night. Me and DH are having our Edinburgh night away! the parents are looking after DS our first night away in 2 years!

have a good weekend everyone and fingers crossed for all the POAS! Hope to come back to a BFP from someone

shimmery i will never forget the time my cat had a thermometer up his arse at the vets - i have never seen that look in his eyes since!!!

lol to thermometers up cats arses stories

I am having major IT issues today - new system installed a few weeks ago. My address book seems to have disappeared. IT guys looking into it, but it is approaching a very busy time in my working year, and I need to do some serious mailing. Grrrrrr... Driving me nuts (or more nuts). mmmm, that made me think of hobnobs . It's so hard gettong back into a working mindset. Wish I was rich and could just do lunch and get my nails done everyday. That couple who won the euromillions live about 20 mins away, am seriously considering falsifying a family tree and claiming to be a long lost cousin - or try Jedi mind tricks on them to get them to part with some money. Why couldn't I have bought my ticket in that shop???

Have a lovely weekend away Summer, you deserve it

So Pie, you'll be testing next Sat then? I reckon I'll be caving by then ... big time.

Eve is your cervix pain away now?

Marathon where are you? (not like you can possibly just be busy with 3 young kids and a life outside MN ) Are you still feeling well? Do you actually run marathons btw? I've always wanted to ask (hope I'm not breaching some MN privacy rule by asking whether your name has a meaning!! )

IQ I feel your pain, I have lost numerous long posts, It's infuriating Hope you're well today.

Hope everyone has a lovely weekend.

Hey, missG I've been to Largs once (it was horribly dreary, I must say). Well, technically, we stopped there en route to my mum's husband's family, but I have been there!

I don't actually know my birth-father but he is from Edinburgh, and Mum's husband is from Ayr (although they lived in Glasgow a long time - I've been there many times to visit). She clearly has a soft spot for the accent!

What I really liked about my trip to Ayr? Every single time we had a cup of tea (which was numerous) a plate of sandwiches, biscuits and cakes came out too! As DSDad's Mother would say 'Will you take a piece?' Thank goodness it was only a day trip, else I'd have put on some serious weight!

When I first met his daughters (so my step sisters, techincally, I guess) it was over christmas and we ended up playing the WHo Wants to be a MIllionaire boardgame. I couldn't understand why DSS kept referring to her Dad as 'My Feather' when she passed the turn to him ...I asked in the end. And they all fell about laughing.

Have to say, I ken the venacular north of the boarder now.

Border* Opps.

Oh, took another opk today and the line is LIGHTER. Can I get a WTF!?!

Hi Peeps,

Sorry to hear about the BFN blue and missg, I hate hate hate those few minutes while you wait for the line only for one not to appear just horrible white nothingness :( I deliberately didn't buy any more IC tests (I have zilch willpower and would have been testing every day since ov !!) and just have one test left (CB Digi) which I won't waste until i'm deffo deffo late. It just hurts so much getting a negative but hand on heart I'll probably cave in and do one next week, am only 5dpo today though, with the miscarriage pregnancy I got a + test on 10dpo. Enjoy your lie in tomorrow blue ! missg you are spot on with pg tests being like hormonal pringles - quality!!!

manda when did you last do an OPK and was it positive then? Have you just got another one, am ! Your post about 'your feather' really made me chuckle!!

summer have a fab time in Edinburgh! I love the city (lived there for a while after I graduated, not from Edinburgh though but from Bournemouth - randomly). Not sure if the festival has started yet or not? Weather looks nice too, lovely!!!

Saw a friend today who has just had her 12 week scan, the pregnancy was an 'accident'. Am really happy for them but it just hurts doesn't it!

Nope, pie I haven't had a positive opk yet... yesterday I finally got a line of some sort (but not positive) compared to stark white. Once my line begins, it normally fades in quite quickly and becomes positive within a day or two (I say normally - I've only used them twice before!) Yet todays test was lighter than yesterdays which is just

I guess either I surged really quickly and O'd today or I started to gear up to O but didn't or... I dunno, my pee was diluted or something.

If I O'd today, we didn't swi today or yesterday so timing is pretty crap. Ho hum.

Congrats Cuttle - I'd missed that too!

Sorry to hear about the BFNs MissG and Blue. I suspect my AF will arrive before I POAS, I feel pre- menstrual.

Not my grandma, my DHs but it's all very sad

Bloody Nora you lot move quickly! Got back from CP today, it was the most exhausting holiday I've ever had, in fact, I'm not sure I'd call it a holiday

Sorry to hear about Blue and MissG's BFNs but it sounds like there's still some hope. Will keep everything crossed for some good news soon.

IQ how are you feeling? Any symptoms yet?

Manda what about you? Are you feeling more chipper generally? Hope you get some clarity on the O soon.

Summer have a fab break! DH and I had our first night away minus any DD a few weeks ago. It was amazing, we stayed in a hotel and had breakfast in bed watching rubbish on the tv followed by coffee with the papers. All the things I miss now that I have my DD 6am alarm call. I'm soooo jealous, ENJOY!

Great news about your friend too.

Pie it's awful when you hear about other people's "accidents" or unwanted pregnancies, you just want to scream at them. You have my sympathy.

MissG I ran the London marathon once very badly with an injured knee. I have since trained for a further two (to make amends for my rubbish finishing time) but have pulled out both times due to an injury and the flu. It's so frustrating! I have run lots of half marathons but I'm no Paula Radcliffe.

I told DH today that I think this pg is over. It just feels wrong like it did with the mmc. I did feel pg a few days ago although I didn't really have any symptoms (apart from little spots around my nose) but now I feel totally normal and the spots have gone, which is what happened last time.

Anyway, I haven't mentioned Whatso, Eve and Shimmery but here's a BIG wave

Btw, do we need a new thread soon? Don't they run out if there are too many posts?

Marathon crossing all my fingers that you're wrong and all is going well [insert Dunkirk spirit emoticon]

Good morning all

Ok I have done my notes and will cut and paste and hopefully mention everyone....

Marathon - good to hear you have enjoyed CP. Really hope that everything is ok. Every pg is different. Have everything crossed for you.

Pie - good luck with holding out for testing - I know I am sometime off that bit yet - just want AF to arrive so I know what is happening.

Summer - hope you have a great weekend - we are on the south coast so not been further north than liverpool and that was for work. DP cycled lands End to John o'groats a few years ago and said how pretty it was up north. Love to go sometime. Good news about your friend.

Shimmery - Hope the cat is on the mend. We had to have our 15 year old cat put to sleep a few months ago. Would love another but it is just something else I have to do. The dog is enough for now.

MrsG - sorry to near about the bfn. Fingers corssed it changes soon. I know how you feel about your IT problems it just makes your life so much harder. Although I remember a time before computers and we kept notes!!!!

Whatsoever - hope your DH grandmother is being kept comfortable - it is always very sad to see loved ones suffer. You are in my thoughts.

Blue - when do you think you will test. Sorry to hear about the work top - I did that at a home I worked in years ago. Felt terrible about it.

IQ - how very exciting about your friend hope they are both well and your sisiter is keeping up the faking symptom spotting :-)

Manda - good news about the test results back to ttc with a vegence then. Enjoy the weekend of swi.

Ok hopefully I haven't missed anyone. I have also never had a krispy kreme - I know like pringles once I start I won't stop. 6 weeks til my sisters wedding would like to shift another half stone if I can....

As for me - camping is in the new forest - only 30 mins away from home. Always a good weekend but exhusting. I finally went to the doctors who was lovely. said it looks like a killer case of thrush so have 3 pessary for next 3 nights then I will finally be sorted I hope.

Off to see some firemen today with DS, sure I can drag him along to see some big engines and poles :-)

Hope everyone has a great weekend :-)

look at that it posted first time :-)

Oh Marathon, wish I could say something to reassure you or to make you feel better, but know I probably can't. Like Eve said, every pg is different, but it's near impossible not to read too much into things, especially if you recognise feelings from your previous MC'd pg. It's such a shame, having a MC (or multiple) makes it so hard to enjoy a new pg. I'll be keeping everything crossed that it's all ok, and send PMA your way . Hang in there.

Pie, I totally know what you mean. It's only natural to feel a pang of hurt/sadness/anger/jealousy. I felt annoyed at myself for feeling that way when my cousin called to announce her pg, and wallowed in a "why couldn't it be me" air of self-pity for a few days. Couldn't help it, was just a natural reaction due to my sadness at my loss (she also sent me a happy 20week scan pic and story the day after I had my ERPC . She didn't know about my MC of course (she's not that evil) at which point the self-pity came back with a vengeance! Even my DH got a bit annoyed at my petulance. Then I got annoyed at him for having the audacity to be annoyed with me. It was all about me afterall . I knew I was being irrational, and I am really happy for her. We're just not in control of some of these feelings.

Fireman Eve?? hubba hubba! Enjoy. I am off to gut this house. It hasn't had a proper clean since I got back from my hols - which was last wednesday . My bro is back his hols, which means they are coming down today with my fabulous nephew who I have missed sooooo much, can't wait for a big slobbery cuddle (and possible a bite on the shoulder, which he seems to have take to doing randomly ). And as it's a glorious day (for a change) the BBQ will be coming out no doubt.

Have a fab Saturday everyone

Oh yeah, Marathon, what happens if a thread gets too long? Does it just not let you post any more? Who's up for starting the shiny new one then???

Currently sat eatiing some prunes (not as bad as I thought they would be) but I have given in as nothing else seems to be helping with my "problem". Agree with marathon not really sure about this pg - it just doesn't feel like I'm pg!!!

MissG sorry you got a bfn. I agree that testing does get quite additive - been out for another cb digi for my weekly Monday morning test......chemist gave me a weird look as bought some nipple cream with it....the cream is for the SIL in preparation for her new arrival but wasn't really going to go into that in the middle of the shop!!!

what so and news on DH's grandma? Hope you and DH are holding up ok.

blue sorry you got a bfn also.....how is your metalling going?

shimmery glad the cat is looking better. When do you normally start testing?

summer hope you have a brilliant weekend away - looking forward to your updates on Tuesday.

Manda - 'my feather' made me giggle - I definitely needed that. Not sure about your opk kit......very weird!!!

pie fully feel for you - I'm currently being bombarded by baby 'accidents', scan pictures, invites to baby showers ect.....you are happy for them but feel really sad for yourself. Then you feel bad for being envious.

Marathon I'm feeling about the same....all the other symptoms seem to have gone except my boobs seem to be swelling (DH pointed this out) and my bowels are ahem, sluggish. Other than that I feel like it's all over as well but I'm trying to stay positive cos it might all be fine. Many people I've spoken to have had no symptoms until after 16 weeks.....hoping were one of these people!!!

eve glad your feeling better - fingers crossed this clear it all up!! Sister has been prodding her boobs also which I found very entertaining!! He he he

I think I got everyone - sorry to anyone I missed!!!!
xxxx

IQ I had to have prunes for breakfast every morning to keep things moving when pg before MC...I think the iron in vitamins like pregnacare can make that issue a little worse which is rather frustrating. Strangely I find tinned prunes quite comforting though as my Grandad has them everyday with his Allbran for breakfast and I always used to pinch some from him when I went to stay as a child so they have fond memories for me! Hope they help with the 'prodlem' though IQ

marathon really hope all is ok, I can't imagine how difficult it is to relax after what has happened before...I suspect we will all be crazy nervous when our time comes around again...hang in there and try to stay positive if you can! Much easier said than done I'm sure though!

My metalling is up and down, felt quite chilled and cheery about it all yesterday, even after the BFN...though slept v badly and woke up with stinking headache and stuffy nose this morning....got loads of headaches and stuffy nose every morning last time so am feeling quite today...we DTD this morning which has previously helped AF along so was hopeful she might make an appearance if she was planning to IYSWIM but still no sign...ho hum... trying to plan when I might POAS again but think I might try and wait until mid next week if still no sign of AF...busy studying today though so that is keeping my mind busy and need to get this assignment done for start of August and lots left to do so another busy week ahead which will be good for the metalling!! Friends birthday BBQ tonight though!

eve hope you enjoy the firemen and medication does the trick!

missg hope the cleaning sesh is going well - enjoy the time with your nephew too!

Right...back to my studies, though feel the need for something sweet...how's about some nice fruit loaf and a ??

Morning all...well...6 weeks and 3 days after ERPC the WTF cycle is finally over as AF arrived this morning Whilst I would obviously have preferred a BFP I'm just glad to have something 'normal' happen in all of this and it means I can start planning the SWI for this cycle and have a better idea where we're up to (though no idea how long my cycle will be - 28 days as pre-pill or 30-37 as post pill/pre-MC )! The cramps have set in though so think I may be sofa bound today with my hot water bottle! But currently in bed with a nice hot water bottle, laptop and the morning sun streaming through the window which is nice...now hoping my painkillers kick in pretty quickly!!

How's everyone else today?

Morning all.

Blue I sympathise, my AF arrived yesterday too. This cycle was 4 days shorter than the last, hope my AF doesn't last 12 days this time as there will barely be any fertile days left to DTD otherwise.

Went to see DH's grandma and it was a big shock. She was like a concentration camp survivor under her blankets and could barely move or speak. My MIL said she didn't think she'll see Christmas. I don't think she'll see August. Very sad but I hope she goes before she suffers much more. I think she is ready but she knows her children aren't ready yet.

With Norway and Amy Winehouse, feels like sad times at the moment.

Morning, Blue Sorry about af (really sorry about the cramps ) but, as you say, at least you have a little clarity (if only for the metalling to recommence shortly ).

IQ and marathon (paticularly marathon) I SO wish I could wave a wand and take you back to the days when symptoms or lack of them wasn't a reason to freak out. It makes me so sad to know that you're worrying, doubting and even writing your pregnancies off because of prior experience. And makes me even sadder because I'm sure I'll be the same . BUT! As I am not actually there right now, it's easier for me to be objective and point out that, yes, all pregnancies are different; even with the same woman. Things can be identical with a different outcome or can be completely different with an identical outcome. Some women are lucky enough to have very little in the way of symtoms (Me, DS1) or cursed with HG (Me, DD) or anything in between (Me, DS2&3 - symptoms starting aroud 7 weeks and improving around 13).

Please cling onto some positivity - today, you are pregnant.

Gah, DS2 is on me feeding and knocked my hand so I sent before I meant to.

Right, my temp shot up today (after doing its helpful 'I'm gonna O!' dip yesterday) so I am OFFICIALLY 1 DPO now! Let the metalling commence!

Actually, I think we don't really have much of a shot. O on cd20, swi only on cd17 and 20. Oh well, I'll be testing from 7dpo early which actually minimises my metally, believe it or not. SHould still check my ipod for suitable tunes to mosh to...

Ah whatso sorry AF got you too...really hope it's shorter than last month for you! So sorry about your DH Grandma too...really tough for you all...how is your DH coping at the mo? Hopefully she won't suffer too much longer as you say but so difficult for family.

Cramps easing off a bit so attempting the mound of ironing!!

manda I have found previously that testing with IC's eases my metalling as I know I'm not peeing on £5 each time as when I then also got a bfn that used to really wind me up...so IC's when I fancy during week 2 if the 2ww and then digi's to check/confirm if I get a hint of a bfp (which is what I did last time!)

Right...back to the ironing!

Oh, gosh, I x-posted with you whatso - really sorry! I wasn't ignoring you, just didn't see your post nestled there until blue mentioned you!

Really hope that af stays her alloted amount of time rather than outstaying her welcome! Remember, it really can take a few months for your body to sort itself hormonally and as much as it's bloody frustrating, it is normal.

Also really sorry to hear of DH's Grandma - I really hope it can all be as painless as these things go. Her children, sadly, will never be ready. Time to say goodbye is a blessing - but I don't feel it ever really makes you ready. Sending strength your way x

Morning everyone,

Was very sad to hear of Amy Winehouse's death (and pretty disgusted to read some narrow-minded comments on Facebook I have to say.) Tragic loss of a young talented woman who was clearly tortured by her addictions. And the Norweigan story unfolding too . And, I found out last night that the 17-year old who accidentally killed her Mum recently when she reversed into her, is a close relation of my best friend's DH. How will that young girl ever get over that?? Just awful.

Blue sorry it was AF rather than BFP, but at least you can wave piss off goodbye to the WTF cycle, which means that the next round of metalling can be that exciting (sort of ) metalling over the chances of a BFP, rather than the WTF metalling, which really messes with your head.

And Whatso too. 12 days is really taking the mickey! Hope it's much much shorter this time around. Sounds as though DH's Grandma is in a bad way . It's horrible watching someone suffer at the end of their life. Hope you are all holding up ok.

Manda I am liking your PMA. And, welcome to the 2ww!! I am CD 20, although not sure how many DPO. I freaked myself out yesterday by having a scroll through some other threads and reading stories about anovulation . Have decided to stay away from such threads from now on.
ps. lol at your visit to Ayrshire. You are so right: it is impossible to go to my Gran's without be force fed a sarnie or a biscuit with your brew. If you say "oh, no thanks, I'm ok" she looks at you as if you have sprouted horns!

Marathon I had a dream about you last night! Well, not exactly you, but I dreamt that your husband posted on MN to let us know that you had had your head stuck down the loo all day with MS! Bizarre. Seems I am metalling in my sleep for you to have some symptoms to ease your anxiety.

IQ hope you're well today, and the prunes are doing the trick . Is your scan this Wednesday?

Hi to Summer hope you're having a fab time away with DH
Shimmery* will you be testing soon, or do you have that thing they call, what is it again, "willpower"???!
Eve Mrsnesbit Pie Cuttle (are you still lurking?).

More sunshine on the West coast! Whoohoo. Will get 2 washings out today and think we'll have yet another BBQ. Us Scots have to make the most of days like this!

Not sure if it's the fact we've all recently lived through a loss (albeit of a different 'type') but I'm really shocked at some of the judgements things being posted about Amy Winehouse.

Having lived with addiction in its many forms (raised by an alcoholic mother, mother's girlfriend addicted to heroin, sister addicited to crack and too much 'social' drug use around me to shake a stick at) it all feels a little too close to home and want to scream at some of the more narrow minded people that there but for the grace of god (I'm not religious, agnostic, actually, but the phrase is apt).

Addiction is not something you ever 'choose'. From what I've seen, its evil fingers caress at first, before gouging away at a person until they are unrecognisable. As a bystander (and that's all you can ever be, however much you wish to be more) it's soul destroying and heartbreaking. And ultimately you can NEVER 'help' them until they get to a point where it's what they want (and even then, they often slip).

That people can blithely make throw away comments along the lines of deserving her fate is breathtaking. Let's hope that all of our precious children never end up fighting demons that lead them to seek solace in drugs (or other self destructive behaviour be it an eating disorder or casual sex) because hope is all we truly have - we cannot control every single experience they have or exactly how they will react to it.

I wasn't a fan of Amy Winehouse. She had talent, that's certain, but her music didn't really appeal to me. What I am sure of though is that she must have been deeply unhappy, however conscious of it she was, and that it is a tragedy that she has died rather than exorcising her demons. Her, and all the addicts that live dark, tormented days.

There but for the grace of God.