Just MC and ready to try again? Pack your cake, wine and tightie whities and join us for more ranting, weeping and most of all laughing! All welcome! (Part 16)

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Hello! If you have recently miscarried and are thinking of or actively trying again come and join us! We offer plenty of cake, tea and wine if needed! Come in and laugh, cry and rant as needed, and don't be afraid of asking whatever questions you need answers to and we'll try our best to answer them.

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wttc = waiting to try to conceive
ucl = usual cycle length
wtf cycle = the time after your mc when you have no idea whats going on with your normal cycle

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Thanks manda though if it was Ov we've probably missed it as no SWI yesterday...I had a meeting to go to in the evening and was just soooo tired when i got home, and it was late but since this is the WTF cycle I'm not too annoyed as part of me would like AF first so that I know where we're up to!

whatsoever sorry to hear your week and work so frustrating ans AF stayed so long! How many sleeps til your holiday?

marathon how are you doing?

eve hope all goes well this morning

Happy Friday

Just after i posted yesterday i heard of another work colleague who is PG although i was talking to her and she mentioned that she had a MC last year so we had a good little chat which was quite nice, isnt it awful but i felt happier for her that she was PG because she had been through it.. not v nice i know - i feel a bit bad now. But anyway she is 20 weeks and looking lovely, it gave me a little bit of hope too.

Right i have informed DH that i should OV around Friday next week (the first phase is always about 12 days) so have promised him SWI on Weds Thurs and Fri next week - he is but also we have a sachet of preseed left over from the last time so we are going for it (not sure if that stuff is strictly legal - i bought it offa t'internet.. but it gave us DS )

meant to say, the other night as i was snuggling into DH before drifting off to sleep - we were talking about TTC. I said how good it is that i know the exact time of my OV (as i get a sharp stabbing pain in my ovaries).

I then proceeded to tell him that most women have to check for sticky mucus in their knickers and isnt that a bit 'ewwwww'.

He turned over and told me to STFU about other women's mucus and let him get some sleep.

Pah! That is why i love mumsnet...

summer can you tell me about this preseed?! I've heard about it on various threads. Is it to help with EWCM? I don't tell DH when i'm ovulating as I think it might give him 'performance' issues!

Four of my friends have also had m/c. Three of them had them before their successful pregnancies and one after a successful pregnancy.

Sun is actually shining up here, lots of friends off to T in the Park this w/end so hoping it stays dry for them!

Soooo tired this morning...sat at my desk feeling as though I could fall fast asleep again...oh dear!

LOL at summer convo with DH...my DH also despairs of the things that are done to check for 'signs'!

Think a might help wake me up...

summer Look at it this way... wouldn't you be more peeved if DH was super interested in other women rummaging around in their fanjo/knickers?!

But this place is an invaluable outlet, however in tune with us our partners/family/friends may or may not be.

Hmm, winning euromillions might be a handy distraction from the fact it's only cd5 (and with O on cd21 last month, I've still potentially got quite a wait unti SWI). Off to buy some tickets!

Oh, and wanted to say whatso I know exactly what you mean. I seem to spend a LOT of my time swinging from anger/frustration at everyone to sadness. I'm thinking if I don't start to improve this month (being three months since the procedure) then I'll go to the GP. Hang in there.

PRESEED must be legal it is over here on amazon!

pie preseed is basically a lubricant; it comes in a handy tube that you squirt up yer fanjo (as am typing this at work - hope it doesnt go into one of my case reports!) anyway it apparantly is really attractive to the boys' little swimmers and encourages it to whoosh on up to the egg thus aiding fertilisation. it is also good if like me you are a little bit 'dry' down there.

i can highly recommend it, as i say the month we used it we got DS (although our cat was sat on the end of the bed and wouldnt budge during that particular SWI - we now frantically try to entice him back for good luck purposes! )

thanks summer! the conception multi vits I take have increased my EWCM so I might see I how go for the next couple of months then invest in some!

whatso manda, I can sometimes scare myself with how down I can be sometimes about it all, and I really need to give myself a shake down and stop it. It's very difficult though. I've still got a fortnight until the real SWI begins!

Blue - 30 sleeps til Ibiza! You've cheered me up just thinking about that

Summer - Preseed looks a lot like ConceivePlus, which I've bought from Boots. I'm a bit dry sometimes too so we often used the "fun" Durex lubricants until I read the back of the bottle which said not to be used if you are trying to conceive as they may slow the swimmers down! So we got some ConceivePlus and used that the month we conceived (one of about 3 things we did differently that month so no idea if it was what helped). I can't tell any difference in CM throughout my cycle so we will probably use that most of the time when TTC now.

Manda thanks so much and sorry you are feeling down/p*ssed off too. My DH keeps wondering aloud if I should toddle off to the GP but I'm loathe to "pathologise", for want of a better word, my feelings too soon.

Feeling a bit better today as DH is flying back tonight, AF hasn't decided to come back again (yet!) and we're decorating out bedroom this weekend, so something to concentrate on - other than SWI of course

Happy Friday one and all!

summer have just read your recent posts......they have made me !!! My hubby has no interest in my OV pain, my mucus ect.....when my OV is coming up I have to say "the basement is flooding" (TMI - but I get lots of mucus during my fertile days) he says it's funny but doesn't "put him off his stride"!!

whatsoever glad to see the witch has finally taken her exit!! Also agree with Manda it hit me again out Og nowhere yesterday and had to get out and buy a tub of ice-cream otherwise I would have lost it completely. Had a cry which freaked out the dogs.....they can't bear me being like that and tend to sit a lick my tears.....a bit gross I know but that is the best they can do!!!,

A close friend is actually due today......feeling very nervous for her now!!! Been making a number of baby hampers over the past few months......just wish I didn't feel so broody every time I took the little body suits and socks out of packets!!!

Whole heartedly agree on the greatness of having people to speak to on mums net......my hubby is lovely (most of the time) but he hasn't got a clue what to say when I'm metalling. Lucky I can speak to one of my good friends who is also struggling to conceive......we tend to jolly each other along and know that we can share all our when people drop their announcements on facebook ect (I hate these people by the way....!!!!

Currently sat in my dressing gown feeling rubbish and watching extreme makeover home edition.....hope Friday is going well for everyone out there!!!

Afternoon all...

whatsoever glad the holiday countdown has cheered you up - Ibiza sounds great!

Just bumped into my colleague who's at the same stage I would've been (been avoiding that department for the last couple of weeks) and saw her bump and felt v I know she's had loads of problems with female stuff over the last couple of years and an operation last year and I am happy for her, just again for me...it's so so tough isn't it!! I would resort to chocolate but am SO trying to lose some weight and don't want to undo the 3lb I've lost this week so far! Might have to resort to a or hot chocolate instead of actual chocolate!

wondering whether some preseed might be worth the investment...will check out Amazon (but probably from home rather than work computer would hate that to come up on 'recent history' if someone else used my machine!!)

IQ hope time on the sofa with icecream helps cheer you up...the up and down of emotions is hard work!

Right...off to the drinks machine...think hot chocolate is the order of the day!

blue you what you mean about bumping into bumps.......they seem to be everywhere. Was actually complaining about it to my sister last nigtht and as I walked into the shop was confronted by a HUGE bump attached to a very slim woman (damn her and he perfect pregnancy looking ways) and I almost ran out of the shop when she stared gushing to the lady behind the counter that "it just happen, I came off my pill and it happened straight away".......was considering taking off my shoe and beating her but thought that would probably cause a number of issues- plus I didn't want to hurt the baby!!!!

Dammit I meant "I know what you mean"......stupid predictive typing!!!

Hello ladies! Blimey you've been busy on here.

Sorry to hear some of you are feeling down. I find that I have up days and down days. Sometimes I feel like we'll never have another baby, that my body has given up and that the whole world can do it apart from me. Other days I feel more upbeat and ready to take on the world. I really hope it gets better for everyone, I'm sure it will.

Summer preseed looks very interesting. I find it bizarre how obsessive I've become about ttc. Before the mc I just let nature take its course but now, well, I'm using OPKs, not letting DH go down there (IYKWIM) during the critical (I'm using the word critical?!) days, laying down for 10 mins after SWI etc etc. I really should calm down a bit.

No news here. POAS with a Tesco cheapie using FMU today and it was a faint BFP but then used a Boots cheapie this arvo and it was BFN! I wish I'd used a sensitive test after the ERPC rather than using the Boots cheapie, I'm not going to ever believe I'm pg again until I've seen it on a stick purchased from everyone's favourite chemist (who, incidentally, my DH thinks are evil).

marathon Why are you doing this to me?! And by 'this' I mean using the hallowed Boots test (which will give you your definitive answer, all things considered) IN THE ATERNOON?! Woman, if you INSIST on doing that, then you must restrict your fluid intake and hold your pee for at least 4 hours. Otherwise you know the pee/hcg concentration probably isn't strong enough.

FWIW, I think you're pregnant but a little more time will tell

aaaand relax! actually i think marathon is preggy too but we need to stay CAAALM

wow whatso thank you for that advice on the luby, we had no idea and have been using the 'well known brand' for ages - right thats it we are deffo on the preseed this month, and i will go hunting for conceive plus if it doesnt work this month

insomnia when my friend was pg 4 years ago and unbeknown to her we were trying for DS; she said to me - yes well when DD is a few years old we will just get PG again - after all i am very fertile - i got PG straight away with this one - yada yada yada. You could see the earth swallowing her up when she asked me when we were going to 'join the club' and i told her that we would love to but had been trying for months stupid bint!

anyway AF is on her way out and i am gearing DS up for a sesh next week - have told him he is not - under any circs to book any squash games next week, cant risk any injuries!

summer Indeed, I'm deranged most afternoons - you know me so well!

BUT! At least I'm not gearing up DS1 or DS2 for a sesh next week - shocking confession from you! (hee hee, I realise that was a typo from you. At least, I'm hoping it was... )

HaHa! summer your typo has made me laugh!

Right, might check out this preseed or conceive plus stuff, after all it can't hurt the swimmers only encourage them to where they need to be! :)

Is anybody else doing the SMEP (sperm meets egg plan?). DH will need extra encouragement for 3 nights in a row but will try and give it a go this month! Although as I don't ovulate till about day 17 doubt we will be DTD every other day from Day 10.

marathon I know what you mean about becoming obsessive about TTC. Each month is broken down into pre and post ovulation, when to start OPKs, checking for EWCM and symptom spotting (and legs up against the wall after SWI!!!). Do a boots test with FMU !!!!!

One of my NCT mums is a fan of saying "i'm super fertile", not sure what she's basing that one (she has one DD) but it really winds me up. She says in front of people that she knows have either had a m/c or taken 6months+ to conceive. GRRRR.

Right off to enjoy my markies dine in for tenner meal - steak, garlic breaded mushrooms, wine, wedges and profiteroles. Definitely no SWI intent tonight, CD4 and far too much food!

eh eh? what typo?

on the because i can! cheers

Give the last part o your last post a quick once over again. Namely this part:

anyway AF is on her way out and i am gearing DS up for a sesh next week - have told him he is not - under any circs to book any squash games next week, cant risk any injuries!

Enjoy the vino! I haven't been drunk in over two years!

Morning, all!

So. I come here often enough to have a moan, so I thought I'd report that for some strange reason I feel really positive and optimistic today!

Hurrah!

Normal service will probably resume at some point but, for now, I'm smiling.

Morning all - I'm currently in bed full of an awful cold but not wanting to take any medicine "just in case"......god when AF turns up i shall be filling myself with paracetamol and cough medicine.

Have a family meal tomorrow that I really don't want to go to......currently considering how sick I would need to be to get out of it!!! Really don't get along with my BIL - find him arrogant, rude and ignorant - my hubby is English and my parents are African but my BIL takes every opportunity to belittle my culture and heritage. The one that really got me was when I said it was tradition for grandparents, and other family members if they wanted tom to give children a name. His reply was "their English why would you want to do that for" don't you think my brother would want to choose the name for his children"......it took everything I had not to throw my dinner across the table at him. I had to explain in my calmest possible voice that hubby and I had agreed we would do it but as the parents we can veto any proposed names and they are middle names - in the order chosen by the parents. The whole idea is that the child and grand parent have a special bond because they were part of a major decision right from the start of their life. Unfortunately it is hubby's family so don't feel I can tell him to STFU!!! (even if it would put a massive on my face)

Hopefully the fact I'm sick will encourage people to leave me alone.....but what it won't do is stop his wife asking me the same question over and over "when are you going to have kids, you know I had my first at 21 and your 27 this year".....she acts like I'm in my 60's!!!!

Honestly I just want to slap her......I have worked my socks off to educate myself and get a good job so that I can have a nice lifestyle and give my children the things I never had.....her and her husband make me feel like I'm less of a woman because I don't have children and that I'm basically evil because I plan to return to work after my children a bit older (part time if we can afford it). It makes me so that she judges me for having a well paid job and being educated but if I dared to say anything about her decision to be a stay at home parent I'm might as well grow another head!!!!!

I know I'm ranting and I'm sorry but I just don't understand how my loving husband could even be related to these people......

Ah, IQ I'm quite sure people judge me... actually, I know for a fact that a number of my extended family think I'm 'a snob' or 'I think I'm better than I really am'. All I can say is it truly doesn't bother me anymore . In much the same way that I don't judge others, I don't envy people either, I just concentrate on what is right for me and mine because, truly, we dont appreciate what another person's life is, what it is truly like, until we are actually in their shoes. Even the one's who seem to have it all, who appear happy... cant judge a book by its cover. Just because I've come to that realisation over the years, I know not everybody thinks that way.

Sorry, I seem to have got caught up in explaining how it is for me! What I mean to say is Grrrrr, can I slap BiL for you?

And bloody hell, 27 IS young! I thought the other day that I'd like to freeze at 29. Still young, but old enough, worldly enough, to be a good parent/person. FWIW your last post makes you sound like both

Oh IQ he sounds like a prickat. I hope you don't have to tolerate him too much. Tell him you're very contagious with a strange African illness that has a terrible prognosis for ignorant minds. I totally agree with what Manda says (I've come to the conclusion that she's our worldy wise one). Also, you are really young and having a child at 21 isn't necessarily a good thing, I know I would have been an awful parent at that age.

Sending big hugs and a huge cup of with honey, fresh lemon and lemsip. Get well soon!

Manda glad you're feeling chipper, long may it last

Summer love your typo Bit weird though...

Well, I POAS with FMU on a Boots cheapie and it was BFP BUT I'm still not convinced as I did my post-erpc BFN mid afternoon. I am going to wait a few days and then do another CB with conception indicator to see if it's gone up. All this waiting is driving me beserk (I'm turning into my mother, that's a word she'd use, eeek!).