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Just MC and ready to try again? Pack your cake, wine and tightie whities and join us for more ranting, weeping and most of all laughing! All welcome! (Part 16)

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olismum23 · 15/05/2011 23:24

Hello! If you have recently miscarried and are thinking of or actively trying again come and join us! We offer plenty of cake, tea and wine if needed! Come in and laugh, cry and rant as needed, and don't be afraid of asking whatever questions you need answers to and we'll try our best to answer them.

Add yourself to the stats list whenever you are ready.

wttc = waiting to try to conceive
ucl = usual cycle length
wtf cycle = the time after your mc when you have no idea whats going on with your normal cycle

Lets hope this is a lucky thread and we all get our bfps!

stats to follow

Part 15 here

OP posts:
BlueCrane · 21/06/2011 10:26

Morning all! I'm so tired this morning, hard work this going back to work lark!! No, was actually v good to be back yesterday and feel the start of normality returning. Not too many awkward questions from colleagues and the few that did chat to me about it were really lovely and had genuinely been concerned about my being off and (those that knew) also what had happened.

ciwi hope you had a fantastic time...I've always fancied going on a cruise! Sad that AF appeared but at least it shows your cycles are getting back to normal which is good.

insomnia glad your work are being supportive - it does make a big difference I think...and enjoy your pamper day on friday! I had a pedicure last night and I keep looking at my sparkling toes and Grin

eve stay on the sofa and rest! I'm so glad I took the time I did and didn't rush back to work as I'm sure it's made all the difference and even though I'm still tired I do feel so much better emotionally and physically than I did.

missG how are you doing...still waiting? Hope AF turns up soon and puts you out of your misery of waiting!

marathon I also need to do some exerice, seem stranegly to have put on another 2lb in the last 2 days which is really not blessing me!! Back to my Rosemary Conley diet methinks...could really do to lose a stone and although will be a good distraction I'm struggling for motivation even though my clothes don't fit...maybe it's the extent of the issue that's a bit daunting!

MandaHugNKiss · 21/06/2011 10:56

Gah, you've fallen off my active convos (as have all other threads...)

CD17 and still no O... Ho hum.

Missgiraffe1 · 21/06/2011 12:30

Hey Ciwi, a cruise sounds wonderful! Especially as it feels as though it's been bucketing for weeks (with only the occasionaly dry day, where the suns tries its best to pop out)

Done myself proud Marathon, 40 minutes on cross trainer followed by 15 mins of abs. And, I have 2 classes booked for tonight! And, since sex burns off calories (and I've had the BFNs), planning to send DD to her Papa's on random errands over the next weeks. Btw, my DH is also away, until Friday. But, as I haven't a clue when O could happen, will just have to go for it at every given opportunity!

Thanks for the Wine summerbird. Virtual wine is all I'm willing to have just now as, despite getting 3 BFNs after the 2 BFPs, there's still a tiny bit of me that thinks I could still be pg (I know, desparate clutching at straws, but since we had been DTD regularly, I suppose it is possible that I Od after my HcG dropped and egg has been zapped by a super sperm, and mini-me is just nestling in ready for the next 8 months Smile ).

Blue glad your first day back went well, and you have understanding colleagues. I found it a relief of sorts once I was back into a normal routine. Although I needed the break and rest, I was BORED SENSELESS by the time I went back. It's quite strange being off work, isn't it?!

Eve, good for you. Take whatever time you need to rest and recover. It's early days yet. And ramble away as much as you like, I am prone to a lot bit of rambling myself (can you tell??)

Insomnia what a nice colleague you have, just what you need at a time like this. Hope you're doing ok,

Heres to cycles regulating, perfect eggs, super sperm, fun SWI antics and BFPs all round!! Grin Grin Grin

Missgiraffe1 · 21/06/2011 12:33

Oh, Hi Manda
Are you still in that WTF place? Is cd17 late for O for you? I think I O quite late for a 27/28day cycle, but not 100% sure as have never tracked it properly.

eve34 · 21/06/2011 16:03

Afternoon all,

Back on the sofa, had a potter around town with ds who is 4 (5 and big school in sept) been on the bus, soft play and lunch for ds in macdonalds. I made do with a very dull tuna sandwich..... I will be thin I will be thin!!

How do you all manage to keep up with everyone?

Miss G - you have very nearly motivated me to get the wii fit out.....(looks under sofa sees the dust and leaves it.) Keep up the good work of DTD.

Blue - glad work went well, I go back next week, although I work from home, alone. We have a big meeting on Wed with everyone. Mixed feelings about it. Be good to see everyone, but wanted to be making my big anouncment. Next time I hope!

Roll on Af and getting back to it :-)

Missgiraffe1 · 21/06/2011 16:19

Eve, I also work from home and had a meeting the week I went back - including seeing my pg colleague for the first time since she announced her pg. She's a good friend actually, so was genuinely pleased for her, but must admit to feeling a painful twang (of jealousy mainly [jealous]) when I saw her bump Sad

I felt that the anxiety about going back to work faded very quickly that first day back. It's like getting up in the morning when you're exhausted. Once you're up, you're fine, but the thought of getting up is horrible. I also developed a sort of insecurity/lack of confidence about seeing people after being off for 2 weeks. Wierd. Wonder if the trauma of a MC makes you question yourself, or feel less secure about things in general, for a while?? I think that's why - despite very clearly needing the time off to sort my head - it was a relief to get back.

Big school eh?! That's a big milestone in a munchkin's life isn't it? I cried for 3 days when my DD went to school! (over-protective Mum alert!)

MandaHugNKiss · 21/06/2011 16:46

Yes, missG things still seem somewhat WTF. CD17 wouldn't be too late for me but so far opks are absolutely snow white (I saw a fade in pattern when I used them in December) and no seeing any of my other O signs such as EWCM for a few days before one pops. It really feels like I'm waiting for something that isn't going to happen. Patience is a virtue, I guess... just not feeling very virtuous right now!

InsomniaQueen · 21/06/2011 19:08

Eve def agree with the other ladies. Rest is the way to go, don't feel guilty about it you need time to sort through all your feelings. The pressure of being at work, deadlines, phone calls ect arent going to give you the space you need to do that.

blue I can't wait for it now......my boss has a complete stress on this week and so Im ducking out early on Friday to avoid her current drangonish attitude!!!!!

MissG doing well thanks, well all things considered doing well. Thinking that things are on track cos getting my normal pre-ov signs.....just a few days out. Will have to see how it all pans out in terms of AF dates!!!

Manda I have a 33 day cycle and my ov is the 17th....try not to worry these pesky things tend to turn up when you least expect them.

Been thinking about goi back to pole dancing class...left a few months ago when we started trying.....really loved doing it but almost don't wanna go back cos I will probably be really crap!!!

Also sending lots of fertility vibes to you all!!!
Xxx
Smile

MarathonMama · 22/06/2011 11:48

Hello girls! Hope everyone is having a good Weds?

I'm typing this on my phone so excuse any bizarre typos.

missg any news??? Well impressed with all the exercise, cross trainer and two classes IN ONE DAY?

insomnia pole dancing, wow! Do you put it into practice in the boudoir? I had a class once on a hen weekend, it was hilarious until the teacher's DH came in to watch and seemed to be enjoying it a little too much. The teacher then proceeded to show us how to lap dance using her DH's lap and the two of them seemed to be getting off on having an audience, it was so uncomfortable but quite amusing in retrospect! The pole dancing was bloody hard work though so I bet you're a fit one (in the exercise sense, obviously!)

Well, I've just done zumba and it really cheered me up. Cd13 and no ov yet according to opks. DH away until fri but we dtd last night, I'm hoping ov will be delayed until the weekend (fx!) Slightly worried that it won't come at all after reading that it can be delayed for months Hmm

I really shouldn't be so focussed on all this. The last two times we conceived it was all really relaxed and just happened, now I'm totally obsessed! I bet it'll take years now I'm thinking about it she says joking and really hoping that's not the case

BlueCrane · 22/06/2011 11:59

Morning all anyone for a Brew ?

insomnia so glad you have your treat day at the end of the week to look forward to - and even better if it gets you out of an awkward day at work!

I have no idea when I might Ov or get AF, it'll be 2 weeks since my ERPC tomorrow so i will POAS again and see (hopefully) if I get a bfn! Am I right in thinking that my body probably won't think about starting a 'new cycle' until my hormone levels have dropped sufficiently? Had another hormonal/emotional evening yesterday so hoping that was due to another drop in levels!

Not sure I'd ever be brave enough to try pole dancing but am considering a return to the gym and reactivation of my membership. I did manage some sit ups this morning but fear even if I build up stomach muscles again the blob in front of them will hide any progress made Blush

manda and missg so sorry you're still in the throws of the WTF cycle! I had a long cycle 35-37 days pre MC so will be interested to see what happens from now on!

Happy Wednesday to all!

whatsoever · 22/06/2011 13:01

Hello all.

Blue happy belated birthday.

missgiraffe loving the use of DTD as both TTC and exercise! Wink

Still no DTD between me and DH. Had a big chat last night though as it is him holding off and not me. Turns out he thought I wasn't emotionally ready hence the holding off. I have explained that I am not going to magically not be sad about the MMC one day and the only thing that will actually make it OK is having a baby, hence TTC is the best policy.

He now concurs and so (hopefully) we will finally get back at it. To be honest, it has been so long now (since before we found out I was pregnant in March) that I was about to suggest just DTD with condoms (ie not TTC) because frankly, a girl has needs. And I fear we may have forgotten what to do because it's been so long...

I haven't got a clue about my cycle since the ERPC and I don't think a few tentative bonks will do this trick this month but I really really hope that by the weekend we will be back in practice. I feel like I have been thinking this for about 2 weeks though.

What this has mainly shown is that I thought DH and I were on the same page and we were definitely not. We were both making assumptions about what the other one was feeling and wanted.

Oh dear, sorry about this horrendous rambling rant! Blush

shellshock7 · 22/06/2011 13:14

whatsoever no need to apologise...its a mess of emotions at the moment for both of you so no wonder you are struggling to DTD - hopefully now you have had "the chat" you can start to get back to normality Smile

I have managed to avoid POAS since my shameful display on Sunday! Have got a big night out planned for Friday so may have to do it again before then to check I'm ok to have a few bevies...not for any other reasons you understand Wink

Missgiraffe1 · 22/06/2011 14:46

I just wrote a massive post, and it hasn't posted! Angry How annoying.

To summarise:
Caught the fertility vibes, Insomnia ta!
Have my [tea] now Blue (and my folic acid Smile)
POAS this morning. promised myself I'd hold out til weekend. No surprise there then

Pole dancing? Sounds like great fun, although clearly that teacher and her pervy DH were having a bit too much fun Marathon! Blush

Well done on the chat front Whatsoever, happpy days back on the TTC wagon.

To all those currently in the WTF and Am I/Aren't I Ov place ? Dammit. Had written an epic paragraph about outing myself as a wierdo for rubbing CM between my fingers (not in a 'Mrs and Mrs Pervy Pole Dancers' kinda way, but in a "hmmm, how would I describe this, and what does it mean Confused" kinda way).

So that's it, today I am therefore a fertile - if a bit confused - cervical mucus-rubber (with no funny story to make it seem less bizarre), drinking tea whilst trying not to think about the pg tests I just saw in the cupbard when getting my folic acid. Smile

MarathonMama · 22/06/2011 15:59

Oh missg I so know where you're coming from, I too have been there with the finger testing and haven't really got a clue what I'm looking for. When I was baking last week I was studying the egg whites to see what egg white consistency actually looks like. It put me right off my fairy cakes!

Oh dear, what are like Confused

Missgiraffe1 · 22/06/2011 16:11

Teehee Marathon Grin what have we been reduced to?!

The CM issue is baffling me. Will need to read up on it. Tbh, I don't actually recall having any of the egg-white slimey stuff around the time I conceived. But , then again, I wasn't really paying any attention to these things, so maybe it just wasn't on my radar.

I may not make my Dad that omelete tonight afterall Hmm....

shellshock7 · 22/06/2011 17:20

Lol re omelette Grin

Totally agree re egg white, not convinced I've ever had it tbh!

eve34 · 22/06/2011 18:24

Evening all

Well you made me smile so I must be on the mend - also shouted at DS today so clearly over him being my precious baby!!!

Now I am right off egg :-)

Miss G - good to be back on the folic acid - it is a step in the right direction. Glad going back to work wasn't so bad, I will of been off for 3 weeks - dragged it out abit, so not looking forward to it. half day Tues Liverpool Wed and half day Thurs so not a bad week but depends what is on my phone/desk that needs doing as to how it goes. Be good to get back into it though.

whatsoever - good you had that chat, I am sure by the weekend you will be in the swing of things.

Blue - should I be testing and waiting for a negative beofre TTC again?

MM it is a mystery to me too.

IQ - go for it - you must be super fit to be able to do pole dancing.

Well WW last night i was up half a pound i was v pleased with that, as I had not been for 5 weeks and ate loads thinking I was pg. Have 1.5 - 2 stone to go to get to goal, will see what comes first getting to goal or BFP. Either way it was god to do something normal.

Missgiraffe1 · 22/06/2011 18:42

Eve

I would highly recommend testing until you get a -ve. I made the mistake of not doing this, then testing after 4 weeks and 3 days after ERPC (about 5 or 6 days after my normal cycle length) and got 2 BFPs! Didn't know if I was pg again, or if it was still hormone left over from MC.

Seems it was the latter, as all tests since have been BFNs. Was a stressful few days, not knowing and having to act as if I might be pg whilst also trying not to get hopes up Sad.

InsomniaQueen · 22/06/2011 19:49

Afternoon ladies,
Evedefinitely need to test until you get a negative. Then you know things will start to get back to normal from there (hopefully really soon).

MissG keep up the hard work!!!

whatsoever had to have the same 'talk' with the hubby. Were not sure if were ready to get back on the wagon but as you said 'a girl has needs'!!!! Also feel free to rant - ranting always makes me feel much better and then I reward myself with a chocolate corneto.......I love chocolate cornetos!!!!

Pole dancing is totally brilliant - absolutely loved doing it and getting the new moves down. I originally started lessons as part of my husband wedding present Blush. Had a sexy photo shoot done to go with it.....hubbys comment was "don't be late for church in the morning"....he seemed Grin!! What a weird/freaky teacher to bring her DH in for a 'lap dancing lesson'. I have done the sexy pole dancing and pole dancing just for fitness, both were great and no strange teachers!!!

In terms of the egg White thing.....not really had that!!!! I think that I'm off eggs for a while now......seems a bit wrong!!! (sorry if it's TMI) mine goes from chalky to slippery and back again over my fertile time. Am now waiting for my lower abdominal pain to signal that "moment"!! If I get it I know that things are back on track, slightly in shock at the moment with how things seem to be about normal.

Currently enjoying a lovely Brew while all the boys in my house are sleeping (the DH and the hounds).

Xxxxx

whatsoever · 23/06/2011 10:17

Thanks all.

eve well done at WW! My weight is terrible at the moment so you are inspiring me to do something about it - after this weekend's wedding of course Wink

insomniaqueen thank you for making em feel a bit less of a weirdo having to have the chat.

On the CM thing - I never knew what I was looking for and couldn't see much difference so we got some ConceivePlus lubriacant from Boots just in case. No idea if it makes any difference but thought we'd give it a go.

Finally back on the bonking bus so feel much happier now. No idea when AF will arrive but happily just take it one day at a time for now.

missgiraffe I still haven't POAS but your story of BFP followed by BFN has made me to decide to gets some tests today just to be sure.

BlueCrane · 23/06/2011 11:17

Morning all, well ERPC+2 weeks and still bfp this morning Sad albeit a fainter line than last week but a bit miffed as was really hoping hormones would've gone by now...think I'll try again Monday/Tuesday, we've got a long weekend in Ireland next weekend and I'd like to think we can SWI without protection and enjoy ourselves but really want a -ve test result first! Hormones might explain the mass of spots which seem to have appeared on my back and chin this week too...grrrr!

Re. the CM thing I've tried to keep an eye on mine but always found it a bit grim to be examining that IYSWIM! Having said that I did think I'd spotted some EWCM around the time I ovulated when I did conceive so was quite pleased with myself!

I think I've managed to lose 1/2 a lb this week which is small but at least better than nothing! Well done eve with your WW that's an acheivement!! Must now reisist the birthday cakes a colleague has brought in though...

Had the weirdest conversation with my Managing Director as I left work last night...he asked how I was (so I presumed he knew I'd been off) and I said 'a lot better thank you' then he said 'you'll be giving it another shot though won't you!' Shock really hadn't expected to be discussing my sex life/chances of conception with him!! I went rather Blush and muttered something like 'of course' and stumbled out the door!

MarathonMama · 23/06/2011 12:31

Arrrgh! +ve result on OPK this morning and DH is away. Does anyone know how long after the LH surge you ov?

Blue do you think your MD is trying to find out your intentions for professional reasons or is he just being friendly? Hope you get a BFN AND a BFP soon!

MissG any sign of the witch?

Insomnia might have to look up local pole dancing classes. I doubt they happen in a home counties market town but you never know. There's lots of fit looking old dears around here, maybe that's their secret!

BlueCrane · 23/06/2011 12:38

mm think my MD was just being friendly. I've been here for 5.5 years now and they were so lovely when I got married and the MD did a little speech for me then, he's a bit of an odd, quirky character so I think it was just his way of being friendly and trying to say 'don't give up' but a bit embarrassing nonetheless! Plus I hadn't realised that all the Directors had been told of my situation so guess they'll all be keeping an eye on me over the next few months to see if i start looking a bit green with sickness or expanding around the waistline!

I don't know v much about opks but I think you have 24-48hours - when's DH back?

Missgiraffe1 · 23/06/2011 13:01

Well done on the weight loss ladies. less than 2 weeks until I'm on a beach in the South of France - thank goodness for sarongs, that's all I can say!

No sign yet Marathon I would bet money on the evil witch turning up just as I go on holiday! Didn't you get a cheeky one in the other day before DH went away? If you O within 24 hours now, then supersperm could still do the job. And if it's 24-48 hours, then don't let his feet touch the ground when he gets back (tomorrow, isn't it?)! Wink

MarathonMama · 23/06/2011 13:33

Hi MissG yes we dtd on Tues night, I thought sperm only lived for 48 hours though? He's back tomorrow eve but then I'm out! Grrrr! It's so bloody annoying.

I can't believe it's less than two weeks until you go away. Though the days seem to be dragging by, that's gone really quickly.

Blue that's sweet of your MD. When I got pg with my dd my old boss said "I suppose you won't be coming back, the world needs mummies too". At the time I told him in no uncertain terms that I would be back, but in the end he was right. For the time being that is Smile

Everyone is going to be watching us like hawks now, waiting for the next pregnancy. I went swimming this morning with my friends and their dcs and I caught one of them glaring at my belly. She was probably thinking "look at the size of that!" but I was totally paranoid she was trying to work out whether I was preggers again!