Just MC and ready to try again? Pack your cake, wine and tightie whities and join us for more ranting, weeping and most of all laughing! All welcome! (Part 16)

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Hello! If you have recently miscarried and are thinking of or actively trying again come and join us! We offer plenty of cake, tea and wine if needed! Come in and laugh, cry and rant as needed, and don't be afraid of asking whatever questions you need answers to and we'll try our best to answer them.

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wttc = waiting to try to conceive
ucl = usual cycle length
wtf cycle = the time after your mc when you have no idea whats going on with your normal cycle

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PS googie and hotcrossSES thinking of you this morning with your ERPCs

Did you ask them to take bloods Blue? I think they're meant to take bloods once every 2 days. And I agree, patients should know their results.
I've had that happen with a few different tests, most recently with a colposcopy and subsequent biopsy. I presumed since they didn't bother getting back to me it must mean the results were ok, the results not being ok and them not getting back would be unthinkable. Maybe that was why she gave a smear test? But I had wondered if she was lying about it and it wasn't a smear test at all, it was a way to encourage the bleeding and expulsion of tissue? (a few hours later what I believe was the egg sac came out). She had said the cervix was closed, was it an attempt to open it? (whatever she did she did something painful). Am I supposed to tell them about tissue coming out? Suddenly feeling a little uncertain about everything

Will be thinking of you as well googie and hotcrossSES, hope it goes as well as possible.

dizzy in the midst of just having the sad news at our first scan i didn't think to ask them to take blood for hcg test as at the time I wasn't totally with it having just had the news. I did ring them earlier this week to query why they hadn't done it and they just said that they'd do it on Tuesday when i go in for my next scan and that they'd make sure everything was fully checked before erpc if we go that way. I was still bit but didn't really want to haul myself down to the hospital and kick up a fuss. Will just have to see what happens on Tues.

Have you got another appointment for them to check you? I think you should ask for another scan to check everything's clear/come out.

Sorry Blue, I was similar - not really in the right state of mind to be thinking about anything other than what they were telling me to do
They told me to just take a preg test next week to make sure it comes back negative, haven't mentioned anything about scans, they haven't really mentioned much about anything . My GP didn't want to send me to hospital in the first place, he wanted me to 'wait and see', the hospital didn't want to scan me when I was there as they said I was too early. Would they definitely scan you after a MC despite how early you were?

From what I've read in the last week it seems to vary but seems to be generally advised that they should scan to check everything's gone - whether that varies depending at which point you MC'd I'm not sure. I guess in theory if it happens earlier then there's less to come out so potentially less risk of infection etc?? Sounds as though they've not been very helpful!! For me we found out at 12 week scan but they could only see 5-6week sac but my body still holding on to it so my second scan is to see if anything has changed (presumably, though no sign of any movement here at all!!).

I'm sorry, that must have been such an awful time to find out.
I've just rung up surgery for a phone consultation with GP - see what they tell me I should be doing. Will be the same GP who told me to wait and see.

Thinking of you today googie and hotcross xx

They didn't mention blood tests at either of my scans? The first scan on 9th May told me that the baby was only 5/6 weeks in size when I should have been 7 weeks, I then passed the 'sac' that day and had a follow up scan on 16th May where they told me my uterus was empty except for a small pool of blood (which still seems to be slowly coming out) but they said there was no need for blood tests because they could see 'it' had gone?

Am still showing + tests though so wonder if they maybe missed something? Will give it until Sunday and test again when that will have been 4 weeks since the m/c and give them a call. Would really like to know what my hcg levels are up to.

We are off to Kirkcudbright on hols in a week (Dumfries & Galloway) so can't wait, hope it stays like this! :)

Collie yes I found out at the dating scan. No heartbeat and looked to be 8 - 9 weeks in size when I should have been 12.5 weeks by my dates.

My thoughts are especially with those of you waiting for nature to take its course or for ERPCs.

On the subject of tests and lack of results, I've realised that I had a load of blood taken at my booking in appointment (by which time, ironically the baby will already have died) and not only did I not get any results, I dozily didn't even ask what it was all for or whether I should expect results! Ditto the urine test.

I had bloods taken on the morning of the ERPC. They told me to call in a fortnight for the histology results. I assumed this was blood test results. However my dad tells me histology is actually tissue test results. I don't undertand this though, as when I asked if they would test the baby to see what the problem had been they said no - so what tissue are they testing and for what - does anyone know? That fortnight isn't up until next Tuesday so I have a bit to wait yet.

PieMistress fingers crossed for good weather for your hol! We're going to the Lakes for four days tomorrow so I have the fingers on my other hand crossed for us too!

Did a quick google whatsoever and from a few of the discussions I've skimmed it could be that they're checking to see what tissue came out and whether there were abnormalities such as trophoblastic tissue, to make sure it wasn't ectopic or a molar pregnancy. So maybe that's what they're checking?

whatsoever sorry to hear of your loss, like collie i found out in Jan at my 12 wk scan. It's an indescribable feeling. You and your DH have my sympathy.

Histology is so they can see if there was any particular cause for what happened, despite what they say. Also to check the pregnancy wasn't molar. Do not fret about this, the chances are very slim, and don't freak yourself out with DR Google.
This is normal procedure if you pass the sac/have ERPC in hospital. Helps them to determine if you might need additional support for any future pregnancy or further treatment. Really routine and most likely to come back as nothing to report.

Bloods at booking in test iron, blood group and also for various diseases, HIV, Syphillis and Hep A or B. Blood taken at ERPC will measure your HCG level (the hormone that indicates pregnancy, the higher the level the later the term of your pregnancy, a high level post mc indicates there still could be tissue in the uterus) and will also test your iron levels again just to ensure you're not anaemic and therefore wouldn't recover as quickly.

My histology came back all clear, and I was diagnosed anaemic and given iron tablets for 2 months. They really helped me to feel physically better.

Slightly that your care team haven't explained all this to you....don't feel shy about asking them!

to everyone else blue do hope you're doing ok

DizzyKipper and Blackkat - thanks so much for the info and sorry for your losses too.

Yes, looking back at all stages I have been a bit hopeless at asking questions. I always went to appointments with questions but didn't question stuff that came up during the appointments. My booking in midwife was hopeless. However the team on gynae (where I had the ERPC) were very good - seems odd that they told me they wouldn't know if there was anything wrong with the baby but do appear to be testing? Maybe they meant they couldn't find out definitively and I misunderstood.

Anyway, I guess I will know more when I call next week...

what the histology will be to check that the mc is complete, ie that you've passed the baby and placenta. I asked about the results of mine when I went back 2 weeks later for a scan and the results weren't back then, the nurse told me that they only contact if there's a problem eg. That it's molar.

I never had any hcg checks, I think they only do that for very early pgs if they can't make a diagnosis from the scan, or if you are still having positive tests weeks later. I had my booking bloods done the day before I found out the baby had died. I then had more bloods taken before my treatment, they did a blood count to check for anaemia and infection and a group and save in case I needed a blood transfusion after the loss.

pie I would ask for bloods or a scan, just to be safe, 4 weeks is a long time.

dizzy I was only offered a follow up scan because they weren't sure that they had seen everything, I don't think it's routine unless there is a concern. I'm not sure about the smear thing, that does sound strange. They poked me about with forceps which was horrific, the worst part of the whole experience.

Thinking of blue and hotcrosses x

Waves to blackkat x

No sign of pre af spotting here as expected today or tomorrow yet so keeping my fingers crossed!

Same here whatsoever, always go in with a list of questions, never ask them. Something to learn I guess. And maybe the gynae team didn't want to say about finding the cause in case it would get your hopes up and they wouldn't be able to? Do you think knowing the cause would give you closure?

I'm not feeling too great at the moment, just been throwing up - never even got morning sickness before the MC and hcg levels are supposed to be right down. Don't feel like I can eat or drink at the mo without being ill, will clear up I suppose.

fx for you Tina, hopefully there'll be some good news

Hi everyone,
I've glanced through your thread - too much to read in full - I'm sorry to hear of your losses, especially the recent ones.
I'd like to join the group. I've had 2 MC's, one last October at 12 weeks which happened naturally (and very scarily in the middle of the night) and then more recently a late MC at 18 weeks at beginning of May. I had the 'medical management' and was able to spend time with our baby girl, the hospital even organised a little cremation service which was very special.
We're waiting for post mortem results as a few days before our baby died a 'cystic hygroma' was found, which is excess fluid on baby's neck, there's every chance that this caused her to die, though we are worried about being given results that indicate that there's a genetic problem that we're carrying and a chance of something like this happening again... hense WTTC till after results have come in.
Has anyone on here had any experience of a cystic hygroma or late loss?
Be good to pass the time with you all whilst I wait and fingers crossed start TTC once again.
X

Dizzy the forceps could've been to remove a last piece of tissue? Or to take a swab.

I had everything removed with forceps bcs it was stuck in the cervix, and they did take a swab too. I shall never complain about a smear test again

to Collie and echoes her sentiments, sad to see this thread so busy, but hoping for some good news soon. FX for Mels/Tina

cupoftea i am so sorry to read of your losses, espcially your most recent and late mc. Unfortunatley i can't offer you any advice which you're looking for, my mc was at 12 weeks (baby at 9) and we don't know the cause.

Have you been on the mc threads see here ? I know there is a 20wk loss thread on there so the women on there may have more experience?

Many of us have been also been following some recent and very sad news of a lovely lady who was pregnant with twins on a different thread, after being on this one many months ago. She sadly lost them both 2 weeks ago at 20 weeks. She has a thread she started on the mc pages - its titled 'lost IVF twins at 20wks'. I think the cause of her losses was a ruputured membrane on one of the twins, so it sounds different, but it sounds like you both are going through a very similar heartache. Wishing you well cupcake i'm so sorry you are going through this.

Hi cupoftea, I'm sorry to hear of your losses. It was nice that you got to have a cremation service for your little one. How long will the results take to get?

She used the forceps before any tissue had even come out Blackkat, she said at the time my cervix was closed.

Am also really hoping some one can come back with some good news for the thread soon, fx.

I just caved and did an ic...and of course got a bfn. I'm annoyed with myself for doing it, so much for not thinking about it! :(

My it's been busy on here today! I made myself switch off the laptop and not sit on the sofa this morning so did the ironing and a friend came over for lunch and we went and sat in the park next to the flat which was nice - this weather is great!

As others have said- the scan room will never feel the same again after our experience last week - not really looking forward to going back in there on tuesday tbh! Still no sign of my body doing anything either...grrrr...!

So sorry to hear more news from cupoftea

My friend just posted 2 bags of homemade marshmallows to me...choc orange flavour and millionare shortbread flavour - let me share some with you all

Yummmm chocolate organge flavour marshmallows, sounds delicous!! Thanks blue

Tina but no until AF comes you're no our. my fingers are crossed that you just need to wait a few moew days. On the optimistic side, it wasn't fmu and you know it can take until AF is due (and even after). ((hugs))

Blue sorry your body is still not doing anything. But glad you have been out. Your friends sounds lovely. x

My goodness I venture out for a morning and it takes me hours to catch up!! I agree it is sad that so many of us have found our way to this thread, but at the same time it is nice to know we're not alone.

Dizzy i had the bloods done last Wednesday the day before i was meant to have the erpc. The only thing i know they checked was my blood group to ensure i wasn't rhesus negative, as the surgeon had my results looked up before sending me home, i assume i'm not as i was sent home with no injection!
Sorry you've had a rubbish time with the hospital. Smear sounds odd, like Blue said they're usually really fussy about when they do them! Saying she was stirring it up a bit does make you think she was just trying to get things going for you. Why not just be honest and say that though! Not sure what the urine sample was for, but i also had to do one of those the morning of the erpc.
If you're worried Dizzy maybe phone the early preg unit, i pestered them, they're paid to help us!

I was told if i opted to go natural i'd get a scan after about 10 days to check everything had gone. I had a scan on the day i was meant to have erpc to check if i had passed everything or still needed the surgery.

Googie and SES thinking of you today, hope your hospital visits go well.

Cupoftea so sorry for your loses.

Blue i've never had flavoured marshmallows they sound fab. I also ventured outside my house today. A work colleague who is also signed off came and got me and we walked into town and had lunch outside a lovely cafe. Was really nice to get out and have company, but also felt worried about being seen, which is stupid as I'm signed off for reason doesn't mean i should be house bound! Sorry to hear your body still isn't co operating :(

oh bloody hell sorry about the essay!!

Oh my word! Im so sorry i just cant namecheck there are so may new faces :( I am so so sorry you are all going through this, I have been on this thread a while i M/C at 8 weeks in early feb, baby bean was only 5+3 I only found out a week or so before that i was pregnant just thought i had missed my AF as that sometimes happens then i was told my hcg was not rising got a few scans, I saw the heartbeat on scan looked like she was catching up but no :( Just recently last cycle i had a chemical pregnancy so all in all Me and DH have been trying for DC#2 for 28mnths now getting fed up!

Jake my offending pooch has just come back from the vets after being neutered even though i think its more to do with our rescue dogs dominance over him and our old lab. This last week has been very stressful.

Tina you never know wait and see if af turns up dont be too hard on yourself i think we are doing well at trying to relax its hard when its all you want a complete family :)