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Assisted Conception (and all the bits in between) volume 7

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Italiangreyhound · 13/04/2011 01:23

Hi ladies Pumplinjoy, Shirley, Lissy, Keziah, Womanly,Val, Late, monkeybumsmum, tametortie and Rowing* - hugs to you all.

woowa of course you can join us.

Choco and Horton and londonlottie do you still look in on us?

Can you all find us?

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lucylookout · 29/04/2011 09:14

tortie that is so inconsiderate of Megan. She should really just be very grateful and accommodating about what you're doing for her [cshock]
Italianwow, what encouraging news that you conceived your dd through IUI at 39. I'd almost written it off already! I am mainly viewing it as a drug test run, as keziah said she would have liked to be able to do
rowing fx the bleeding really has stopped and the FET can go ahead Smile
I'm sitting here with the wedding on, watching with half an eye, mainly holding out for THE dress though Grin

rowingboat · 29/04/2011 11:23

Hi all,
Italian feel awful for your friends, I hope they have found it in time. Sad Must admit I very seldom or even never check my breasts. Is it just after AF you do it? I will try to remember, hopefully not when I am standing in the park or somewhere it wouldn't really be possible.

The bleeding really seems to have stopped, and no biscuits (so far) today so looking good. Now I just have to get all stressed about taking time off at work. They are very short-staffed because of the redundancy through 'natural wastage'. Basically about 12 people have left in the past 18 months and none have been replaced. Yes we were over-staffed, but not any more.

Italiangreyhound · 29/04/2011 19:53

Hi

Sorry to be mega cautious but this info is on line and looks good.

www.channel4embarrassingillnesses.com/video/how-to-check-yourself/how-to-check-your-breasts/

Self examine at the same of the month. This info says ideally, 1 week after the end of your period.

I must confess I have never done such a thorough exam as this, so I shall be doing this in future. As I no longer get regular periods so I might start doing this on the first of the month.

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rowingboat · 29/04/2011 23:53

Hi all,
Italian, thanks for that! I have had a look at the video and will do the check tomorrow because that is about a week from CD1.

NookNook · 30/04/2011 07:32

Italian Thanks for the info - will definitely check regularly now.

My news is I had one embryo replaced on Thursday (grade 1, 8 cell) so now on the two week wait! The other three embryos were a bit of a mixture so we'll see if they freeze any for future use.

Love to All x

tametortie · 30/04/2011 09:53

OOOOOH congrats nooknook xxxxxxxxxxxx

Fingers crossed for your 2WW- what is the official test date?

lucylookout · 30/04/2011 11:00

Congrats nooknook and fingers crossed it sticks! X

Italiangreyhound · 30/04/2011 11:49

nook fab, congrats, to you and your little bean [cgrin] all the best.

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womanlytales · 30/04/2011 14:20

Fabulous news Nook - all the best.

Keziahhopes · 30/04/2011 17:58

Nook - that is great, a grade 1 too!! All the best.

Rowing glad bleeding stopped - hoped it can continue all ok. Yes, hobbling in the sun is good.

lissy- they do know what is wrong, but I don't get to see the stroke consultant until July to find out!!! For now am focussing on returning to normal and am hoping it doesn't happen again. My speech is now totally normal - always good in my job!

NookNook · 30/04/2011 23:17

Thanks all for your messages!Tortie Official test date is 12th May.

Kesiah that totally sucks that they're making you wait until July! Although they would have had you in a lot sooner if they thought it was going to happen again, no?

Love to All xxx

Keziahhopes · 30/04/2011 23:31

Soon be May Tortie - all the best. Are you at work or home for 2ww? No, consultant said she wanted to see me in 6 weeks, as it could happen again - but she is busy she said so it could be longer. Not sure what to do if it happens again, go to A+E I guess. Hoping it doesn't!

Well it is cd32 today, the longest I have ever gone (bfn obviously) so guessing my cycle totally out after ivf. Has this happened to anyone else? Wonder how long till back to "normal" as it were.

Italiangreyhound · 02/05/2011 12:23

Nook yay for 12th May. Will think of you. Arrow prayers for a good result.

Keziah get well soon.

Lissy how goes it?

Shirley are you still looking in?

OOOHH EEERRR The Apprentice is due to start soon, this month, May, I think. Anyone else want to watch it with me.

Feeling a bit upskittled about my friend's breast cancer and my impending treatment. Feeling excited and stressed all at once about treatment. Feel weird! But eating is good! Refused an ice cream Saturday after dog walk and refused a biscuit at church! Now, I know that does not sound like much but there is a half jar of jelly babies in my kitchen and only a few have been chomped!

Hugs to all

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tametortie · 02/05/2011 13:35

Hello all,

Had scan this morning and its gone a bit pants.

This was a scan to check that all was quiet, ovaries dampened down and thin womb lining. But instead after 1 month of injecting Buserelin, I have a VERY thick womb lining and am about to ovulate Hmm What do you make of that?

Have had bloods taken, nurse was left scratching her head a bit that I have gone as far as having a ripened follicle despite injecting buserelin. She said that some women have a thick womb lining etc and need a couple more weeks of buserelin but she said "it looks as though you have had a normal cycle despite injecting"- funny you should say that love, cos I would normally ovulate and today I am swimming in EWCM (or fairy snot as I like to call it Grin), have stitch in my side and have an upset tummy- all normal ovulation signs Hmm

I'm really confused- how can the drugs have not worked? (tempted to start singing the Verve...)

Am awaiting instruction from the clinic now- either a HCG shot or something to induce a bleed.

Feeling very pissed off and not entirely sure if this is just a normal hiccup or whether this could be the end of things- nurse didnt say.

I told her to say sorry to 'Megan' for holding things up and she said 'oh, I'm sure she won't mind- she might not be ready either'. I didnt realise Megan had to get ready???? What are they doing to her????

I feel lost today, out of control and in the dark.

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tametortie · 02/05/2011 13:35

Sorry for the me me me post- hope you are all ok.........

xxxxxxx

rowingboat · 02/05/2011 13:56

Hi all,

Tortie, you mysterious, drug-defying creature! Grin It is a pain though, going through this and no go. Think it might be time to up the dose or change the drugs.
I had trouble getting my lining to be thin enough, but it didn't quite go the other way. I wonder if they have given you the right drugs? That's just silly though! Sorry waffling on here. Try googling it to see if it has happened to anyone else.
Italian where are you, oh queen of googling! Smile
Megan, probably suppressing ovulation in her as well so they can get you
synchronised.
When will you see a doctor?

Keziah hope you are feeling on the mend a bit. Are you finding 'being patient' quite difficult at the moment?

Lissy hope you are coping with the hormones, not nodding off or anything.

I'm on tenterhooks, waiting to hear if I can have the time off. I haven't booked the flights yet, but if I can't get next Wednesday I'll ask the doc if I can delay the transfer to Thursday or Friday.
This progynova is making me feel really anxious and a bit depressed, not very depressed, but enough to make me feel as if I am dragging myself around.
Hi to everyone!
Off out into the sunshine - that should buck me up!

tametortie · 02/05/2011 15:00

Tried Googling- all a bit negative about abandoned cycles etc. Will wait to speak to nurse.

Sad
bucksfizz1 · 02/05/2011 16:03

Nooknook. Sorry to jump on strand. I start short protocol with an amh of 2.4. 7 eggs is excellent going with a low amh, what was ur amh? Our clinic reckons 8 would be top end for those with low amh so you've done really well. They also said that too many decreases the quality, so stay positive and let us know how you go xxx

bucksfizz1 · 02/05/2011 16:08

Sorry tametortie for ur pain. I'm new on strand. Has the nurse given u feedback yet? X

lucylookout · 02/05/2011 16:34

When will you speak to the nurse tortie? I don't know anything about the drugs etc, but can imagine how frustrating it must be to have taken lots of drugs, that probably made you feel a bit rubbish only to have them not work. Hopefully once you know more you'll feel a bit better about it and I'm sure the clinic will be able to adjust it all to work.
Sorry to hear you're feeling down rowing, I think the stress combined with the drug side effects is a pretty horrible combination. Once the transfer is done will you be off the drugs for a bit ( or still on progesterone?)
Hi to everyone else too. I hope you've had a nice sunny weekend (sooooo windy here too). We had a nice we but I'm on cyclogest for a possible progesterone deficiency and I don't know whether it's just me but it makes me REALLY irritable. Also Af due on fri, then I can start the drugs for IUI cycle, but ofcourse these last few days are dragging more than all of the days in the rest of the cycle. Topped off by the fact that I just don't think iUI will work. Oh, I'm a barrel of laughs to be around Hmm

tametortie · 02/05/2011 17:43

Nurse phoned just before clinic shut (at least she has been to her 'Use of Communication Equipment training Grin) and said that she had spoken to a consultant at the clinic. Apparently I have a ripened follicle on my right ovary which has formed a small cyst which is pumping out loads of oestrogen and leading to my thick lining and stimulated ovaries. So, they advised that I gave myself a HCG shot to ripen the egg and induce ovulation which should get rid of the follicular cyst, I may or may not have a bleed and I should carry on with the buserelin to shut the ovaries down and will have a re-scan on the 16th. If the buserelin hasnt worked by then, I think it may be a no-go. I don't know this for sure, the nurse didnt say but I don't think they can leave me on buserelin forever can they??

So, this afternoon I proceeded to waste 2 vials of HCG by pulling the bottom of the syringe out of 2 syringes and losing the mixture all over the floor (best part of this is that as part of my job, I am trained to reconstitute chemotherapy- I never have a problem with that??!!!). Had to phone clinic, they answered the phone (feel the need to tell you they answered the phone because it is not a given...), I asked for prescription for more HCG shots, She gave me a prescription for 2 vials because she could obviously see that this was going to go terribly wrong. I went to ASDA with the prescription (10 miles from home) and discovered as I went to pay that I had got my cancelled bank card. Cue me pleading with chemist staff to let me use phone to phone DH.

What a shitty, shitty, shitty day.

Italiangreyhound · 02/05/2011 17:48

Tamtortie how terrible Sad but don't despair, maybe it can all get worked out. The first time I had IVF attempt with own eggs the Buseralone sis not work and it had to be abandoned. That DOES NOT mean this will be the case for you, it just means that you might have to do something different, whatever, which clinic will tell you. Megan will be having Buseralone too to get her system suppressed so that she is at the same point as you. Her womb will be being got ready just as yours is. Whatever happens just listen to the clinic, get their advice and stay calm. As they said in the war, stay calm and carry on, or something like this. It's not the end of the process so try and be positive and don't worry. Easier said than done. Not sure Googling is helpful on this occasion, your doc should know what to do next. Hugs Wink

Lucy IUI can work, stop being negative missus! Grin DD is watching 'Almost Naked Animals' on TV (don't ask!) and is living proof that IUI can work Wink

Hello Bucksfizz.

Hugs to all, and baby dust not baby snot!

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tametortie · 02/05/2011 17:53

Googling definitely does not help- just lots of paranoid women having cycles cancelled.

POSITIVE THOUGHTS.....

Grin

Need to chill out now- has been a truly rank day.

bucksfizz1 · 02/05/2011 18:38

Tametortie. Poor you! If down reg does not happen they can put you on short protocol ie boost u up from day 3 without supressing your system. That's what they are doing for me in about 2 weeks and do for quite a few women so don't despair...and women get pregnant on it too! I know hard. If they do short protocol I'd recommend taking co-enzyme q10 supplements (buy from any supermarket) as this helps boost the energy of the egg when they do collect from you. It takes a lot of energy for eggs to ripen and fertilise successfully so I was recommended thus by various practitioners. Stay off google, tis the road to madness!!! Xxx

lucylookout · 02/05/2011 19:12

I know, I know italian, you're quite right and I have been very heartened by your story, I'm just finding these last few days of waiting to start hard going. And also I'm so used to c**p stuff happening recently (family health problems as well as ttc stuff) that my brain can't quite get used to the idea that something good might happen. And of course, telling myself it won't work is a way of protecting myself from disappointment if it doesn't Confused . I'm sure you know how it is. Thanks for your wise words anyway, I need a bit of a kick up the bum to shake this mood off! Have never heard of the programme your DD is watching, but have to say it sounds fascinating!

It sounds like your clinic are on it tortie and agree with the others, talk to your clinic and try to avoid google. It will really do nothing but torture you with scenarios that more than likely do not apply to you. You do really sound like you've had a day of it though, and suggest a Wine, a good film and some chocolate this evening to take your mind off it all.

Hi Bucksfizz and welcome! I take co-enzyme q10 too as I read that it improves quality of eggs generally (have low ovarian reserve so need to boost what little is there Wink .) What strength do you take? I'm on 30mg at the moment but am wondering whether I should increase to 100mg?