JSing viroids, on your marks, get set, shag!

[JosieSmith1]

The (updated)(again)(again)(again) 'rules' from our Just Shagging Originator for the Viroids:

Maintain a relaxed attitude at all times - drink if you want too, especially on your birthday (or when you've had bad news). Thread precedent dictates if you drink to excess you will get a BFP (but not recommended). (But it does work).

Covet thy husband and enjoy every minute. Shag at every opportunity - shag-capes and awesome superpowers optional.

Keep acronym-age to a minimum! EWCM is now to be referred to as 'pant snot'. Try not to get sucked in by Fertility Friend (at least for a while), but knowing where you are in your cycle and furkling for pant snot is most definitely allowed.
OV is ovulation - I'm allowed to forget what date I've OVd, feel free to join me on that one!

Bunting is to be put out for any small victory, thread-parties are held regularly and hugs are always welcome!

Once you have your BFP, feel free to hang around and share your wisdom and virtual cocktails with the JSers.

Keep us up to date with gossip!

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Most of these rules are well and truly broken!! But we try to chill - honest

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Part 1 Graduates:
Tanmu82 - BFP
PrivetDancer - BFP
OnlyWantsOne - BFP
Frankenfanny ? BFP
Notso - BFP
knittakid - BFP
loopeylu - BFP
PinkFondantFancy - BFP
Grannyapple ? BFP
Fuzzywood - BFP
canoe - BFP
janedoe - BFP
StarflowerGirl - BFP

Part 2 Graduates:
ihaveaplan - BFP
lovemylulu - BFP
shitforbrains - BFP
gormers - BFP

Part 3 Graduates
Bonkerz - BFP
Kitten - BFP
Cowboylover - BFP
takingtheplunge ? BFP

Part 4 Graduates:
NoMoreChocBiscuits - BFP
Milanomum - BFP
Cremegg - BFP
BrassicaBabe - BFP
Dynababy - BFP

Part 5 Graduates:
TakeThatLady - BFP
Vallinna - BFP
SingingMog - BFP
aDarkStarWithStrangeWays - BFP
Eskarina - BFP

Part 6 Graduate
Reality - BFP

Part 7 Graduates:
Katiepie - BFP
CaramelGirl - BFP
Nickelbabe - BFP
Panpie - BFP
Brightcopperkettles - BFP

Hallooooooo!!! I'm here. Congrats Crow, fab news

Today I have brought lemon and chocolate cupcakes (got an order in for tomorrow but accidentally made 10 choccy ones instead of 8 and two batches of lemon cos I was trying two different recipes. I thought it'd be a quick and easy job but I had to go to asda twice so I've only just finished three batches. The decorating will take ages so god knows what time I'll be finished!

I think I've been run down last week - haven't been sleeping well, had bit of a dodgy tum and a headache, so I have decided I am going to pretend to myself that I am pg (for some reason leggings make me look and feel slightly pg so I have been wearing them and occasionally rubbing my tummy (when no-one is looking) it's been quite comforting actually. Someone announced their pg at work, and someone else brought their baby in, and I did really well, looked at baby, and scan piccy, and made the expected cooey noises

One last thing, only JSed once cos I can't be arsed, and I figure if we're going to be told we need IVF on 31st then what's the point, we'll either have IVF twins or we'll adopt, so no shag cape this week. It's actually been a relief not to feel like we had to!

Evening viroids. Yummy cupcakes, thanks Josie! I am chuckling at your rubbing your belly . That's good you've had a bit of a break, we had a fairly relaxed month this month too. Probably still in the zone, but we didn't really pay much attention - Just Shagging, I think that's called .

Crow great that no spotting again. Hope that continues! I really laughed at the story of your daughter coming home drunk, reminds me of a former self. But your step-daughter - wow, I had no idea that could happen to a baby in the womb. Scary stuff. There really is a lifetime of worry with children isn't there? Thankfully there are good bits to make it all worthwhile :)

I've had quite a busy day so just vegging in front of tv now, but really must have an early night.

Hi Nelly, yes I think the break's done us good. DH showed me an app on his phone yesterday called 'Love Calender' which is basically an ovulation calculator. I tried explaining that it was a general thing and that we know I ovulate on day 16 not 14 like the calculator says, but that it doesn't take into account individual differences in women, or wrinkly ovaries like mine but at least he's trying, he says it's to remind him of when we need to have sex this should be embarrassing but we're both aware that during the week we're both knackered and we do forget, so he's giving himself a little nudge

I was up till half bloody 11 doing those cupcakes for today, and because my hands were washed so much, the skin on the back has gone dry and I have a rash and it's really bloody painful. On the plus side, I've got away with getting DH to do the dishes 'because I don't want to get my hands wet for a couple of days' But I told my bud I'd make cupcakes for when I visit her tomorrow, so everything I packed away today, has to be got out again, then washed after the cakes are done, then put away again [exhausted face]

Hallo Josie! Sorry you've been feeling rundown, but you do seem chirpier :) I like the sound of that app, OH could have done with that ages ago

Nelly no, the worries never end! Step daughter also has a problem with one of her arms - the wrist is constantly bent and the fingers crunched. She has botox injected every so often to loosen the muscles, has daily exercises to do on it and also a splint to wear now and then (being a vain 15 yr old, it's not that often ) she also has a very pronounced limp. Apparently OH and his ex were told that she'd always need special cutlery, would never walk unaided and to not have high hopes of her doing too well in school. They ignored all that and treated her as 'normal', and most of the time we don't notice anything different about her from other girls her age :)

I'm still worrying about this 'pregnancy' - I still can't bring myself to believe I AM pregnant. I'm now meant to be 6 weeks. I do have sore boobs (felt like I had clamps on my nipples at lunchtime!) but it comes and goes, and as soon as it goes I panic. Either I'm getting used to extra sense of smell or that's faded, same as stuffy nose. Temp has dropped abit too. So I've got myself worked into a state thinking it's ended and it's the hormones fading now and a digi test will still show 1-2 weeks, or worse still not pregnant I really want to feel positive, but I don't want to get my hopes up either. Every tiny thing has me thinking I'm miscarrying again.

OH has been brilliant - he's not letting me do anything, other than light household stuff, sooo protective! He's really excited about us having a baby now, but also hates seeing me get upset. Aaarrrgh! Now I feel like crying ... hmmmm, emotional is good, yes?

Oh Josie bless your DH having that app - that's really sweet actually! I don't think mine would ever think of something like that, though luckily he now knows roughly when I expect some form of attention . Ouch to the sore hands, but I like the Get out of Doing the Dishes plan! Mmmm cupcakes, yum.

crow I guess it's just a waiting game now really isn't it? Easier said than done of course! Every day that goes by without spotting, or worse, is another day forward. Have you been to the doctor yet or does that not normally happen? . Emotional = good though, I'm sure! Your SD sounds like she must be a very strong character, which I'm sure has it's positives and maybe some drawbacks too?!

Had a busy weekend, can't believe it's Sunday night again. I've been staying up far too late recently and not sleeping well, so must shut down computer soon, and get to bed.

Yup, step daughter is a very strong character, bit too strong at times! But in a way she's still quite immature, like giggling at anything remotely 'sexy', or saying 'eeeww' at someone showing a bit of cleavage or tummy, just like a much younger girl would, and at other things too, as if she's not got the maturity to deal with things outside her 'norm', if that makes sense?

Not seen a doctor yet, may pop down there later to register, seeing as I've not got round to it since moving here over a year ago!

POAS again this morning, another clear blue digi, and it came up pregnant 2-3 ... Still lower than it should be, but better than last week! At least it's going up, I suppose I just have lazy hormones

Hope you managed to get a good night sleep :)

Hi Crow, I can totally understand why you're worried, hopefully you can relax a bit soon

I haven't been sleeping well either Nelly, well, I have, but I've been sleeping really deep but still feeling exhausted when I wake up, as if I haven't slep very well. I've even slept through DH's snoring without wearing my earplugs, normally I can't sleep without them. And I feel a bit like a big bruise at the minute, I've got what feels like pulled muscles in my stomach and side, keep getting stomach pains. Sorry if TMI but if I'm ever constipated, I obviously get bad pains, but then after I've 'been' I feel better but my insides feel kinda bruised for a day or two, and I've got that feeling now, but I haven't been constipated . Anyway, hope you slept better last night

Off to see pg friend this afternoon. A bit embarrassed that MiL asked if my friend was showing and I said actually I didn't know cos I've never asked, and I've never seen her get off the settee recently bad friend!

Flipping Doctors! Or to be more precise, their rottweilers receptionists! Do they have to take a course in condescending attitude?! I don't think I've met one yet who is warm and friendly. Just been to register at the local doctors, they gave me a form and told me the ID I need, so I said I have it right here so is it ok for me to fill it in here and now?

Them: No. It's not. Best to take it away and bring it back.
Me: But I'd like to get it processed asap, I've just found out I'm pregnant and need to get appointments set up.
Them: Are you keeping it?
Me: Yes.
Them: In that case, if you get accepted as a patient, you set up an appointment with the midwife.
Me: So I don't need to see the doctor?
Them (rolling eyes): No, it goes straight to the midwife.
Me: Ok, so how do I contact a midwife?
Them (sighing): if you get accepted, you'll be informed in writing, there'll be an encounters form which you fill in and bring in and the midwife will contact you for a home visit. (turns to computer monitor to indicate the conversation is over)

Now, I know I'm not going to get to see a doctor today, but I won't get back there again to hand in the form until Friday, in my experience it can take 2-3 weeks for them to write back to confirm acceptance, and then I have to fill in another form to let them know I need to see a midwife. Getting the registration processed today could shave a week off that time.

I know I'm being impatient I just felt like telling the receptionist that I'm scared, that at my last doctors surgery I just filled in the form there and then, they processed it and said I could come in first thing next morning to see the Dr. Obviously they do it different at this one (last one just told me to go along to the local surestart centre and tell them I needed a midwife) but I don't know how they do things there and was only enquiring how it all worked, not being thick - which is how she made me feel.

Sorry, just needed to rant!!

Josie I am beginning to relax about it, I think! I hope you're feeling better today, and enjoy your afternoon with your friend :)

Are you keeping it????? From the receptionist!? Bloody hell that's unbelievable! I think I'd have replied "I fucking well hope so, you insensitive cow, but that's why I need a doctor" .

13DPO here (I think, but not sure) and no spotting yet which is good, but I don't think it means anything.

I just blinked in disbelief and told her yes. Maybe if I'd told her 'no' she'd have been more forthcoming in getting me registered!

Tsk, I knew I should have registered ages ago, but I hate doctors since my MC and just kept putting it off I'm too knackered to walk all the way back down there today.

Ooooh, any possible symptoms??

I need to get off my bum and get something to eat.

You're right actually, at the time face to face I'd probably have been shell shocked too. The Cow

No symptoms. I had a metallic taste in my mouth for 2 days last week but it's gone. PIAR on Sunday but it said No, so I'm sure it's just a normal month. Ah well,

Awww that's a shame, but you never know!

Think I'm going to have a cuppa and a snooze, I neeeeed sleeeeeep.

What a cow Crow! I can't believe someone would say that! She obviously has no idea of what actually goes on in the world! My pg friend said to me the other day she wishes I would hurry up and get pg so she can complain to me! I nearly smacked her in the face, pg or not! I wouldn't care but she knows what we're going through, I hope she realised what she'd said by the look of disgust on my face, I too was a bit shocked and couldn't thinkof anything to say.

Pants about the test Nelly I think we're being relied upon to keep the JSing thread alive It's a conspiracy

Very busy at work here, 2 people off, one planned one not, but the other admin is pretty useless so I'm holding the fort on my own. She's lovely, although she did ask how my IVF was going, I think she must know something I don't seeing as I wasn't aware I was undergoing IVF yet And I'm worried I'm getting a kidney infection, been feeling run down and peeing more than usual and I think I'm getting that uncomfortable tingy feeling I usually get after going to the toilet, like I need to pee again but I don't. I could be imagining it though, it's very subtle

Oh josie we need to recruit more JSers urgently in that case .

How are things with you crow? Fingers still crossed here x

How's the shagging frak?

Josie Some people are just so insensitive! I'm dreading telling my dad I'm pregnant, in the last 3 years all of his children will have got pregnant or had babies! I already had two, my middle sister had 3, my youngest sister had one, and my half sister had one (girls for me, but rest were boys) ... half sister then went on to have another boy, my middle sister had a surprise pregnancy at 37 and had a girl in August last year, my youngest sister is expecting a girl next month (aged 35 and 17 years after her last!), then my half brother announced he and his GF are expecting twin girls in May! I think my news will finish him off, he won't be too happy! In three years, the amount of grandkids he has will have more than doubled - he'll have 11!

All ok here Nelly, symptoms are increasing ... breasts very tender, thought they weren't so bad last night and was getting worried, until I went to bed an took my bra off - the pain! Was like they were on fire and I could not get comfy. The night before last I was dreaming that because I'm so very windy at the moment, my OH was trying to cork my bum up in my dream we were wrestling on the bed and I was laughing my head off, then I heard my OH say to me 'what are you laughing about?' (not in my dream) and I realised I'd been laughing in my sleep, real big belly laughs! So strange!

I've got up the confidence to post on the grads thread - eeeekk! And I bought a bib with 'I love daddy' on it to give to OH, because where I was so worried about it all, and couldn't get excited, it brought him down, so it was my way of showing him I'm being positive. He was overwhelmed and I thought he was going to cry, bless him.

Oh and I can't type anymore ... nearly every word is coming out wrong! I may just post one post where I've not corrected my spelling/typos so you can see just how bad it is!!

Any other news?

I have boycotted fb, at least for the weekend. I've had enough of being updated on the wellbeing/complaints of every single pg person in newcastle. I'm giving myself a break. I've even taken the widget thingy off my mobile so I can't be tempted Having some me time, and about to crack open a bottle of and paint the hallway (oh the glamour )

Shit day today. Consultant is starting us on ivf in next couple of weeks but she doesn't think I'll respond. If I don't produce enough follies they won't go any further and it's the end of the road for us I'm absolutely gutted. We've got a 10-15% chance of success

Josie that sucks :( I know nothing about the technicalities but that sounds pretty off to me? I know this is her job, but she can't know that, it's just an opinion. It's not the end of the road. Another clinic might have better results in your situation, or there is the possibility of using donor eggs etc. Not your first choice I know, but try not to rush to a foregone conclusion - one step at a time. Deep breaths :)

Thanks Nelly I feel a bit like the bottom just fell out of my world. And to top it off I have to sit at work all day pretending everything is fine when really I'm one 'are you ok' away from breaking down. Had a chat with my bud yesterday, she's really upset for us, I know it's hard for her too, she just found out she's having a little girl, and her only confidante can't be excited for her, not without a lot of tears and tantrums at least. It just feels so unfair. I'm trying to cling to that 10-15% chance though, it's better than 1%. Gonna ask if there's anything I can do to help my chances of responding too. I'm terrified aswell, it's really not a nice procedure judging by the info they gave me, and I'm not good with hospitals, needles etc. Deep breaths is the way forward, please keep reminding me of that x

Well I'm back - miscarrying today after bleeding Monday and yesterday. Scan yesterday showed empty gestational sac, HCG levels too low, the cramps and heavier bleeding starting this morning.

I'm gutted, in agony and just want to cry and sleep.

I've surrounded myself with comfort food - chocolate hobnobs, cheese ball crisps and ice cream, oh and chocolate.

OH and I have said we'll just keep on trying, but with the pain I'm in right now, I don't think I can risk it happening again and again

Sorry about your news Josie I hope it all works out for you.

I'm going to take a break from this place for a while - Hope when I come back there's good news for all of us xx

Crow I am so sorry I hope you're going to be ok, we're here if you need us ((hugs))

crow . I am so sorry. I can't imagine how hard this must be for you. Your OH sounds lovely and I'm sure he will look after you, but as josie says we are here if you need us. Look after yourself xxxx

You sound in need of a hug too Josie. I hope your other thread has given you some hope?

Not really Nelly I hate having to wait to see what's going to happen. I seem to be going through phases of thinking I can't cope, with phases of thinking I can just get on with it and stay strong, with phases of being in complete disbelief. I just can't believe it's come to this, and I can't get my head around the fact that I might never feel my baby kick, or know if it would have my eyes or DH's smile etc. Doesn't seem real.

I spoke to my team manager today to tell her about my impending hospital appointments and ended up getting really upset Why is life such a bitch

crow I'm so sorry. I just posted on the Grad thread to ask how you were getting on, and then spotted you on here. So, so sorry. Look after yourself.

Hi Josie and nelly. Sorry to read your news too Josie. Please don't give up hope though.

Like the new name nelly.

Hello bambam . You must be fit to burst by now! Hope all is well?

Josie - deep breaths remember .

Thought still with youcrow.

We had some good fun JSing last night in the nelly house, despite being too tired. Slept like a log afterwards, too