Charters Anonymous Volume 6. Charting and shagging our way to victory!

[MrsArchchancellorRidcully]

Volume 6 ladies. Come join us, new and old, and worship at the temple of EWCM, TCOYF, +ve OPKs and BBTs!

know the feeling auntiedoris, the last few Ive had have been really awful, the most painful ones Ive ever had, I suppose thats another reason to be glad to be a SAHM I don't know how I could have got through a day at work. I have known people have time off work with bad af and never really understood it till now.

Having agreed with DH we will try a couple more months then stop for good at least the silver lining will be to get back on birth control (not that we seem to need any) which will hopefully sort af out. But I want to have this awful hsg as I am concerned being on the pill has masked my symptoms and that maybe I have something that needs treating whether ttc or not so want to be confident it's all healthy down there before I get back on the pill or whatever I decide to use, that's another drama in itself.

sorry doris

I think I'm not far behind you being in AF doom and gloom. I had a temp drop this morning so fully expect it to turn up today or tomorrow. Feel really sad. I agree it's unfair that we feel so wretched anyway and then AF has to go and be painful and mess with our hormones making us feel emotional. I'm fed up of it all. I feel like crawling under a rock.

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sorry auntied that its showed. Youre right, it doesnt get easier, it wont be any reassurance now to how you are feeling but its a familiar feeling here.

Sorry auntied :(

Well I've got thrush, and because I'm in the 2ww can only use bloody yoghurt. ttc sucks :(

:( weimy

i had thrush in cycle 2 or 3 just before ov! was not very up for SWI. hope you feel better soon.

sorry doris. it is crap when you feel like shit and you know you're still not pregnant. :(

MrsD i know exactly what you mean with the crawling under a rock feeling.

my temp is up a bit today so seem to have ov'd a bit earlier this time.

chart

looks a bit neater this month as I've had better sleep!

Hi ladies, may I ask you all for some advice? This is my second cycle charting, no ovulation picked up first time and AF finally got me on CD56.

This time FF pinned my ovulation date as 2nd May (CD29) which made me so happy as I was starting to think that nothing was going on in there at all (I have PCOS so not outside the realms of possibility )

Garghhhhhhhh!!!!

Fertility Friend has now changed my ovulation date to one day later so still stuck on 8 dpo now (I think I will be stuck in the 2ww FOREVER). My chart is here they have changed my cover line so it is higher - it was 35.9 ish. Now I don't claim to be an expert about these things but I can clearly see what looks like an ovulation dip on 2nd May followed by clear thermal shift over the next 3 days.

I tried to see what it would be like on the other settings ("research" and "FAM") and they now say no ovulation detected.

How irritating - there were a few days DH and I didn't manage to DTD after my alleged ovulation date so if they pin it as any later we may well have missed our window

Anyway I would be so keen to hear what you ladies think

i'd go with cd29 poppy

jaggy that is a very neat chart!!!

Ok here just a bit uncomfy :(

Cd22 yawny yawny yawny (not been temping so chart is blank)

Scratch that, spotting, so that's me for this month going by other months.

Sorry weimy hope not though!

Thanks for your views on my chart - I took a long look at my CM notes and I have discounted the one for CD36 as can't be sure it wasn't (ahem) something else and low and behold FF has changed the ov date back to CD29.

What an adventure this is! I am sure it will change again when I input my temp tomorrow

Has anyone else experience such indecisiveness from Fertility Friend?

t also depends on when you put EWCM and OPK results - I have given up on OPKS for this reason. I am crap at telling EWCM from swimmers too

can't believe there have been no posts today. Although I'm keeping a low profile for the next couple of months I like having a spy on the rest of you. We can't let this thread drop away! :)

period pains, spotting and thrush meh!!!!!

Sounds rubbish Weimy :(

Crosshairs today, woo 3DPO.

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As it's been quiet thought I would pop in for a quick hello, hsg this afternoon, will let you know how I get on. Trying to think positive thoughts, it will be fine I know it will just not the nicest way to spend the afternoon but I know it could be a lot worse. Just not looking forward to it at all, but at least temp is still down as once it's done we can get back to swi, unless it goes up tomorrow then I am out for the month as I will have to leave it for a day or to so it can recover from the trauma down there.

I just nearly posted this in a thread about toys

sorry weimy what a horrible combination.

Best of luck for today bossy, I hope it goes ok. Will you come back and tell us how it went?

Woo hoo for your crosshairs jaggy.

My temp dropped on Wed, not below the coverline but enough that I knew it was game over for this month and then I had a tiny bit of spotting. Yesterday I had more spotting, it was enough to have to wear a light pad but was still brown and no cramps and not proper flow just mainly when I wiped. Today, it is full flow, crampy and red so I've counted this as CD1. Does that sound right, or should I have counted yesterday?

I've had 4 months of charting now. One month was crazy and long (38 days) and I don't think I ovulated. The other three, I have ovulated on days 16 or 17 and my LP has been 15 days on two of the months and 12 on the other. I thought LP was supposed to always be the same

I'm going to see the doctor the week after next. We've been trying for ten cycles, this is our 11th so I'm hoping that we can start some investigations.

Hi all

mrsden lp can vary a little mine has aslong as you have 10 days you are fine. Today would unfortunately be day one for you. xx

very pretty crosshairs jaggy

in bocca del lupa bossy, i think that is italian for good luck xx

feeling very low today really itchy and just plain emotional I feel as though I might be getting depressed again. No AF proper yet but she is on her way :(

Hi everyone (Ive had to name change for a reason but Im ngolddream)

2 low temps and a BFN today - not our month, so pissed off, had a good feeling (dont we all though eh!)

Sorry weimy youre feeling low to and sorry mrsden

Good luck bossyboop with the hsg

ooooooooh Triphasic pattern..... (here

What do you think ladies?

Mrsden I would have counted that as cd1 too, mine follows the same pattern 2-3 days of brown spotting when I wipe then proper red flow and cramps. The way I look at it with LP is that the charts aren't 100% accurate, there are so many things that can affect temp that ovulation can't always be accurately detected and therefore the LP it shows isn't necessarily right, does that make sense?

Great chart poppy and yours jaggy as always!

Well I went to the hospital, running late as always just to add to the nerves, I took painkillers as advised beforehand, someone came and explained what would happen and what the risks were - cramps, bleeding and potential to introduce infection. The letter said to take dressing gown and slippers but I didn't bother and didn't need to as had to wear hospital gown anyway and they gave me a gorgeous nhs robe to put over the top. There were 3 people present (all female inc 1 student) Got on this bed that moved forwards, backwards and up and down and there was a huge machine hovering over it which included the screen to watch the x ray and the x ray machine itself. I had to lie in the smear position for about 20 mins which was painful, my sore hips distracted from what was going on down there. After the speculum was inserted they had to sterilise the area outside and in with iodine I think which was warm and gave me a fright! The catheter was inserted which had a balloon on the end which got inflated once inside. It was a bit crampy but only for 30 secs max. The dye went in and they took x rays then everything had to come out. I lay a few mins to rest and it was such a relief to straighten my legs. The Dr said the tubes were fine but she thought the hole in the cervix seemed small for someone who has had a baby already but she would have a proper look and send the results to the gyn who I don't see for another 5 weeks but that's my fault I booked the appointment late as I didn't know when I would get af and therefore have the hsg.

I was a bit crampy once painkillers wore off so took more and had hotwater bottle and a cup of tea. Had a little bit of bleeding, got in the bath when I got home, had a good soak and good cough to get rid of all the nasties. I am a bit crampy today though very mild. Overall it was nowhere near as bad as I thought but it can vary from woman to woman and the painkillers probably helped. Was exposed for about 5-10 mins then they put one of those green sheets over with a square cut out so they could just see the area they were working on so felt better then.

In the meantime can't wait to get back to swi, well just because I really want to and haven't been able to due to hsg. Temp is still low so still in with a chance. CD11 now and last cycle I ov on CD19 I think it was but you never know when it will come so on the one hand nervous it will be sore but can't wait Guess we can only try!

Thank goodness friday the 13th is over!

thanks for all the well wishes everybody

sorry you are out again duckdodgers the start of a new month with new opportunities - we can do this!

Hello everyone! Back in the home land, thank god.

bossy really glad to hear that the HSG wasn't too bad and thanks for sharing the experience. I wonder what they meant about the cervix thing? I would probably spend the whole morning with mr google to try and find out....fx everything comes back as normal. A bit of good timed SWI doesn't sound so bad either

weimy sorry to hear you are feeling down. I hope it's just the hormones. My low days lasted a lot longer than usual this time around, but have managed to shake it off. Hope you manage to do that too.

auntied sorry about AF and no, it doesn't get any easier. Quite the opposite.

poppy your chart does look good. Not sure about triphasic though, maybe just a steady stream of progesterone keeping it up?

Hi duckdodger. Sorry about the temp drops.

hope you get your appointment MrsD. I'm still a bit apprehensive about mine. Funny as I was so keen to get it in and now that I have it I'm kind of thinking 'maybe we should just give it a bit more time'. DH has been and dropped his sample - FINALLY. So I'm assuming we'll get his results next week.

We might have just had a little helping hand from mother nature this month, as I might have ovulated early and we managed some SWI just before I took off. Not too sure about temps what with time zone difference and all that, but figured it was a big enough shift, so it might just be right(ish).
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The timing also means that I will either have just got another visit from AF when I go to meet my gyn ( Q tears no doubt) or I might just find out I'm pg on the day FX for the latter

I'm glad it went ok for you yesterday bossy and thank you for the details on what happened. I will feel much more reassured if I have to have these tests done having been able to read about what exactly happens iykwim.

I hope the time until you see your gynae goes quickly for you. Did they say anything about how some women get pregnant straight away after having a hsg? I've read this somewhere but not sure if it's true, something about it giving a good clean out and removing obstructions. Anyway fingers crossed that this might be the case for you and you get your BFP.

Despite being lulled at 5 am this morning with quite a good temp rise - got up and AF is here, gutted again. Now onto cycle 12.

duckdodger sorry about AF arriving.

sorry duck :(

glad that's over for you bossy

5dpo here, so nothing to report. yet again trying to tone down the obsessive thinking during 2ww. i have definitely got the idea that 'symptoms' mean nothing by now. :)

this month's entertainment is comparing my chart with my pg with DS one. (again) Got to have a hobby...

like it would mean anything at 5dpo though?!