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When's the best time to get pregnant? Use our interactive ovulation calculator to work out when you're most fertile and most likely to conceive.

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Charters Anonymous Volume 6. Charting and shagging our way to victory!

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MrsArchchancellorRidcully · 28/02/2011 16:00

Volume 6 ladies. Come join us, new and old, and worship at the temple of EWCM, TCOYF, +ve OPKs and BBTs!

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weimy · 04/05/2011 18:54

Ah we haven't done it day 13 to 15 he has been too busy, unfortunately thats when I usually ov :(

never mind maybe cycle 7 will be the one Grin

Newgolddream · 04/05/2011 21:03

Sorry weimy Sad

Finally got my positive on the opk today so feel all the swi since CD8 has been mainly wasted, if I ov tomorrow it will be CD16, rather late. But will attempt it tonight, knackered!

IfAtFirstUDontSucceed · 04/05/2011 21:16

weimy could there be any swimmers already up there waiting from an earlier session, when did you last SWI?

I'm now on the count down to AF now - CD26 www.fertilityfriend.com/home/IfAtFirstUDontSucceed Temp took a dip yesterday, but I was up an hour earlier than usual, back up slightly again this morning, but still lower than the last few days.

99.9% sure that it's not our month, but strangley don't feel too upset, I suppose all that will change once AF arrives!

Have been speaking with my "IVF friend" who is a lot chirpier. They have decided to give it one last go after a good meeting with their specialist yesterday who is going to re-look at her medication. :)

AuntieDoris · 04/05/2011 21:42

Evening laydees. Well I am still having a proper weird cycle and generally have no idea what is going on! If FF is to be believed I ovulated on day 10 and I am now 12 DPO. Who knows though.

I got myself all upset last night though after reading that this time last year my sister had decided to try for a second baby. I think she was pregnant by the end of May.

Ho hum. She seems to managing diffing pretty easily whereas I don't :(

weimy · 04/05/2011 21:56

:( sorry auntied FX AF stays away :)

ifatfirst I doubt it think the last time was day 12. FX for a temp rise :)

newgolden enjoy the SWI you will soon be able to rest Wink

bossyboop · 05/05/2011 09:22

auntiedoris at least there was plenty of swi so no matter when you actually ovulated you've covered all possibilities! good luck to all others getting the swi in!

AF started properly last night and don't I know it today, not as painful as last months but had better mornings! I think in this situation there is only one thing to do and that is eat chocolate!

Was brave enough to ring for the HSG appointment but same drama as last month, busy on the day I need it, can get appointment in a hospital miles away but I don't drive so DH would need to take more time off to get to that hospital (an hours drive each way plus an hour for appointment) as you need someone with you and are advised not to drive after anyway so wouldn't matter if I did drive! Waiting for a call back about it.

Scrummybumb · 05/05/2011 10:50

auntied if you did ovulate on CD10, then your SWI was still well timed, so I wouldnt worry too much.

bossy well done for trying to sort out the HSG test, although I'm annoyed for you that it's turning into such a hassle.

newgold Hope you managed some SWI last night Grin

ifat I've got my FX fo you. Hang in there!

weimy and karbea Fx for good timing.

I've told two of my friends and my mum that we are trying and whilst normally everybody behaves themselves, I've had my mum ask me in the last couple of days 'any news?' and last night one of my friends asked very casually and cheerfully 'how's the baby-making going?'. It felt like a knife in the chest. All I could muster was that I would tell if I had news and that it was all a bit hard at times, but it was normal that it takes a bit of time so we'll just keep trying. I nearly burst into tears and just wanted to run away! I guess if you're not TTC yourself it's hard to understand the emotional roller coaster that we go through. And I guess I'm still a bit down this month and can't really get excited about the new cycle as there probably isn't much of a chance due to timing...Sad

Pipbin · 05/05/2011 11:58

Hi,

Must confess that I haven't read the whole thread so sorry if this has been asked before.

We tend to SWI at night, some times rather late. So if we SWI at say, 2 in the morning on Saturday night/ Sunday morning, does that count as Saturday or Sunday?

bossyboop · 05/05/2011 12:53

Hi Pipbin, I don't know tbh! I wondered what an afternoon is classed as, thats probably why I just mark it down with an x rather than am or pm, I suppose I would probably put it down as sunday.

Scrummy, thats why I haven't really told anyone other than dh. A friend of mine has told lots of her family and they ask her about it all the time and she feels awful each time she tells them nothing's happened yet. That would make me feel rubbish though I really have been looking forward to giving everyone a surprise.

HSG booked for friday the 13th - lovely Hmm painkillers before and a pad and nothing planned for after is recommended. Really not looking forward to this at all. Day 21 test though what a minefield. Last 2 charts showed ovulation CD19 and CD21 so having blood test on CD21 is pointless if it's meant to be done 7dpo. Of course I wont know when 7dpo is until I get my red crosshairs but that's no good when the doctors is busy and you need to book an appointment well in advance. The gyn said last time it could be done CD21-26 meaning 7-12dpo which doesn't make it any easier to arrange what with weekends and bank holiday monday Confused

bossyboop · 05/05/2011 13:06

oh and also LP seems to be 11 days so going 12dpo would mean im on my next cycle. If anyone has any wisdom on the matter it would be much appreciated! That is based on FF being right but given my rubbish sleeping and therefore innacurate temps and 2 lots of ewcm who knows when I actually ovulate...anyone????!!!

weimy · 05/05/2011 16:19

Think if after midnight it is the next day.

scrummy, I'm sorry about friends and family being thoughtless, your adopted pack send you warm smelly hugs.

I am lucky the few i have told never ask unless I initiate it and I have not told family, but as discussed before they are all convinced I would keep a baby in a cage and walk it on a lead.

can't offer any advice bossy sorry I'm clueless :( xxx

Karbea · 05/05/2011 16:24

bipin I always put am if after midnight and pm if after 12 lunchtime.

IfAtFirstUDontSucceed · 05/05/2011 21:24

No surprise - back to CD1!

Going to chat to DH about taking a break for a couple of months.

MollyDefoe · 05/05/2011 21:33

Hi all - have sadly started miscarrying :( I'm trying to be philosophical about it, and tell myself it was only our 2nd cycle trying, and at least it shows we can get pg, but it's still sad.

Hope you're all well :)

AuntieDoris · 05/05/2011 22:05

My current plan of SWI is to do the deed every two days from when my period ends. That way I must hit ovulation at some point!

hotcrossSES · 05/05/2011 22:07

Molly - :( and hugs

jaggythistle · 05/05/2011 22:13

aw no Molly, really sorry to hear that. :(

Newgolddream · 05/05/2011 22:39

Oh no Molly, god Im so sorry Sad

scrummy - yes we managed it last night, temp rose a bit this morning so thinking ov was yesterday, am sitting here about to go to bed and decide whether its worth getting another 1 in just in case. Smile Sorry you are having a bit of a hard time to. Sad

Just watched the conception programme on BBC1, was quite interesting - out of 250,000 sperm every ejaculation 85% are defective apparantly and as little as only 20 make it to the fallopian tube! Also said that once sperm reach the tube they go to sleep - literally for up to 5 days and then when an egg appears it releases a chemical that wakes them back up again!

weimy · 05/05/2011 23:34

molly I'm so sorry :(.

Ifatfirst sorry about Af :(

Scrummybumb · 06/05/2011 09:43

Molly so sorry to hear about your sad news. You seem to be taking it really well though or are just putting a brave face on it?

weimy ahh, I now imagine myself as wet and doggy smelly as they come - lovely! Smile

newgold yeah for well timed SWI. I was a bit surprised about that sleeping bit too (lazy sods) (confirms that SWI does not need to be perfectly timed though) and the fact that my White cells attack them (no!!!! Do they know the amount of effort I've gone through just to get them there?) once in the uterus but I had hoped there would have been a bit about implantation too. That got totally missed. Anyway, I want some of that lady's eggs - 16!! Good programme though. DH asked me afterwards whether I was now more worried about everything that could go wrong. I hope he's not starting to have second thoughts. Better have a chat with him.

Having a better day today, thank goodness. Got a call from the hospital yesterday and they've had a cancellation, so I've got my gyn appointment on the 23rd! Smile I've also booked myself to see our practice nurse to check whether I'm immune to rubella as I have no idea and nether does my mum!

bossy I fully understand not wanting to share the TTC plans with your friends, but I had this sad thought that things may not go to plan and I would therefore need my friends support, so have told my two best friends. I now think she was perhaps just curious and a bit tipsy so it came across a bit wrong. Oh well.

Good thing about the appointment. I'm sure it will go well. Not sure what to say about the blood tests though. Sorry

Cramping this morning. Weird. I'm only CD7 and still spotting so no idea why Confused

ifat sorry about AF Sad

pipbin definitely Sunday in that scenario. I use rule of thumb: am = anything from midnight to noon. Pm = noon to midnight. Exception = AF starting after 6pm = next day.

bossyboop · 06/05/2011 10:03

Molly you have every right to be sad, I would have a good cry then be philosophical too just to help get through it. I like the prayer of serenity - accept the things you cannot change and change the things you can. Sometimes believing things are out of your control can sometimes help you get through but don't bottle up those emotions.

I was also thinking of stopping ttc (again) and thinking of just taking a break for a couple of months (again). Apparently you can be more fertile after hsg as it can shift small blockages. So DH suggested 2 more cycles. We've come this far, Oct 2009 till now so why not, 2 more then I am taking back control and choosing to stop.

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MrsArchchancellorRidcully · 06/05/2011 10:41

Hi all. Have been luking on the thread every so often. Many congrats to SES.

Molly I am so sorry for your news and hope you take care of yourself.

Sorry to those who are on CD1-5. A crap place to be.
It seems just so unfair that some people don't get that bfp when they are doing everything they can. I remember how supportive you all were when I was TTC No2 and it seemed to take forever. I truly wish you all get your bfps - you dserve them so much.

I am almost 12 weeks eek! It feels like it's taken forever to get here (got bfp on 9 March) but I also know that once I hot about 14 weeks, things will start to fo very very fast!

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mrsden · 06/05/2011 11:04

so sorry molly Sad

MollyDefoe · 06/05/2011 14:09

Thanks so much for your lovely comments - it really helps having these threads to write on, as other than DP and best friend, no-one else knows in RL. This last week has just been crazy: I always knew it was going to be busy, as I had a huge writing deadline on Sunday, and then 2 more deadlines at the end of this weekend, plus 2 job interviews. But what we hadn't planned for was buying a house too (and the vendor is putting a lot of pressure on us to exchange on Monday, less than a week after we put the offer in!), and getting pg (albeit briefly). The whole week has just been a rollercoaster of emotions - the house looked like it was going to fall through, but now I hope (touch wood) it will be OK. But there's been so much to sort out with solicitors, finances, surveys etc. So, if it makes sense, I'm not sure I've really had time to properly absorb the fact that on Monday I was pg, and now I'm not. I had a good cry about it yesterday, but I suspect it will hit me properly next week. But I am still trying to feel philosophical: it was only our second cycle, and a mc means there was probably something terribly wrong with the fertilised egg. And the stress of this week can't have helped. So onwards and upwards (once I've stopped bleeding).

Sorry for the self-absorbed essay. Am currently at the job interview, and have been given an office to myself until the interview itself in an hour or so's time - so am whiling away the time on MN!

  • thanks for being wonderful support.
bossyboop · 06/05/2011 14:16

Molly it sounds like you have a lot on your plate at the mo and really hope the rest of it is all easier, good luck for your interview! There's always people here to talk to who understand. Will join you with the onwards and upwards thing anyone else coming?!