Freak out room for those newly updiffed after MC to hold hands and support each other...

[YourFriendBrian]

Hello!

Newly updiffed and freaking out about spotting, cramping, the wait until your first scan and each little twinge? Settle in for lots of hand holding and supprt until you're ready to move to grads.

Lots of love
Brian x

A&R, what do you mean? Of course that's what you must do. We went to see some friends in Glasgow, we didn't have proper lunch. Spent the hour or so journey home fantasising about having a big fat gourmet burger and chips. I'm so hungry I can't wait until dinner so I've just been scoffing crackers and cheese. I'm also craving feta and salad so that's what we're having for dinner, (along with an Angus burger of course).

mummya thanks for the defence. I had intended not to read another word there but was too curious about what you'd posted. I think the problem which has been expressed a number of time is not that it's not perfectly reasonable to hate the symptoms and side effects of pregnancy (which can be pretty miserable) but to spill this over into a complete disdain for conception or having children when this is what all of us have been waiting and hoping for for so long feels very belittling. There are enough people who do it in RL "oh no, I'm pregnant again", "oh I guess I want it" "I'm just so fertile" without having to meet a load of [insert numerous adjectives] on the internet. Reason will not get through.

Have spent the afternoon convinced I'm going to lose them. And that I hate the house we're moving to on wednesday. Need to find some new things to do and help dh get stuff out the loft for when movers come.

Just a quickie, mummya you have cemented my view this afternoon that you are the most wonderful woman. Good for you defending yourself today. I felt physically sick reading the posts on there this afternoon . A new low was reached when louesh was told off....

nix what's the bear been up to today?

TTT have you got a scan booked this week? Although I said the zen wears off quickly, I should also say that I'd got myself into a proper tiz the day before the scan last week and was properly freaking out. No idea why, just had bad bad thoughts going round my head, so although it doesn't sustain zen, it does convert mentalling back to low grade anxiety again so worth it. (((hugs))) for the house doubts, I thnk it's normal even for non-pregnant non-hormone fuellef people to panic just before moving and think it's a horrible mistake, isn't it? I know I had it for sure. I love my house though and I know when you see it again you'll love your new one too.

Tunnock I think you should definitely write and complain. It is shocking how they have treated you . I had a moment with DD1 when she stopped moving for a day in late pregnancy {wistful emoticon}. The North London hardened receptionist would not let me see the doctor. When I told the doctor what had happened she was appalled and said that in future I should stage a sit in and insist to be seen immediately stating that the receptionist would be held personally responsible if anything were to happen to the baby or me. She was very embarrassed that they had no real control over the behaviour of their receptionists! Newly upduffed friend in same area is choosing to go private due to these sorts of issues - very cross making. Where we are now is much better - lovely surgery with guaranteed seen-on-the day service and a dedicated midwife - amazing what a postcode lottery it all is. I have all fingers crossed that your bean will stick.

TT fellow house move doubter - it kept getting smaller in my mind as we packed up our old house and I was so sad to say goodbye to the neighbourhood but settling in now. Fx it is better once you have your stuff in the place.

TT I am sure someone on here has a good mantra to help you through - I just can't think of it at the moment - something along the lines of 'no news is good news'

tunnocks I am going to keep everything crossed for you. Complaining is a great idea - the way they treated you is frankly negligent.

Last comment about the hate thread I promise - I've messaged mumsnet to ask them to take it off the 'discussions of the day' list to stop people accidently coming across it....

TTT I've been trying "my baby is safe, and well, and happy" - it works ok but stops working if proper mentalling sets in...

We haven't bought the house - just renting it - and there wasn't a great deal of choice but we had to move by next week and were getting desperate. Ideally we'd like to buy (I'm getting really bad nesting urges) but haven't found anything we like or that is half way decent yet.

Pink - I think the affirmation idea is a good one together with my hypnotherapy cd if I can find it. I don't have time to work out how to get another scan or time to have it done and it's just bad feelings brought on by anxiety. No bleeding or anything to make me more worried. We went to a 4 year old bday party this afternoon and for some reason the idea took hold then (lots of noticeably pg women and other people with children) to the extent that I had to go into the loos to breakdown and recompose myself.

I've missed the pregnancy hate thread. Not worth looking at or getting upset about it. Well done those braver than me for posting if you did.

TTT, I know how you feel. We moved out of our flat in lovely North London in August. It is a right pain moving house. I cried every day at the thought of leaving my beloved flat and all our friends. We had all the aggro of moving but at the last moment the house we were buying fell through so we had to live with Mum for a couple of months while we found another. We were going to live in the South West, but we ended up in Scotland near DH's folks.

Tunnocks, good idea telling your colleague. You need an ally. Pink cm sounds ok, hope it stays that way. I remember I had green once, when I had a bad cold when pregnant with DS. Totally freaked out and cried in front of my SIL and her friend. Took them ages to calm me down. Her friend who'd had loads of kids said to expect rainbows and don't worry. Another friend bled loads throughout her pregnancy and had a healthy girl. That is why I get angry at stupid gp receptionists who think they are gatekeepers to the holy grail.

Just gatecrashing a minute if i may???

Hi to all.I m Louisesh and yes i ve been back on the "hate" thread to address a poster who has pi**ed me off big time!!!!

Thanks Pink and Nix for thinking of me but please don t worry after what i ve/are going through a small group of virtual small minded people can t bother me.

Oh dear!!!! It makes you wonder about how much people really have going on in their lifes doesn t it????? But thanks for thinking of me.Please take care.Good luck all with this journey.XXX

Hello lovely ladies

Well you've only done about 200 posts since I left on Friday lunchtime... no chance of catching up...!

Hen weekend was great and managed to fend off the 'why aren't you drinking' questions with Slimming World as my excuse... I think they bought it...

Symptoms seem to have changed - boobs are no longer sore and nipples no longer like walnuts, but boobs are definitely bigger; and I've had little spiky pains in my womb/abdomen - not twitches but little spikes.

Also there seems to be a lot of single magpies in the Cotswolds - don't recommend going there if you're as magpie sensitive as me :)

I'm hoping this is all good progress - I do keep convincing myself that the pregnancy is doomed but then telling myself to not be so silly.... Seriously doubt that I'll make it to the 18th of March before I got the EPU and ask for a scan though...

Hugs to all

Louise - are you the same Louise who was on parts 1 and 2 or thereabouts of the miscarriage thread and had a lots of mcs and then decided to adopt? I was tigger then (namechanged recently for avoiding RL person purposes). If so pleased to meet you again and am really sorry to hear your news.

Hi louiseh Just wanted to say I am really sorry for your loss, and that I am really by the level of insensitive and unsympathetic comments on the "hate thread" I am glad that they havent upset you. Best of luck to you too xx

knitter I'm afraid I'm responsible for about 199 of those.... Good work on the lack of detection on the booze front-diet is a good cover story, I'll try and remember that! All sounds v promising on the symptoms front, fingers crossed for you.

louisesh glad you're doing ok-I've hidden the thread so I can't see what's going on but I hope they've left you in peace. Im also so sorry to hear avout your journey. You are so brave and incredibly inspiring-I wish you all the best for the future.

teacake good luck at work tomorrow.

nix I'll be thinking about you tomorrow nice lady, I hope it goes as well as can be expected-go gentle on yourself.

Any scandudes due for scannage this week?

Night all xxxx

Pink Initially I thought you meant 199 magpies... but then realised that you probably meant posts :)

Thanks for the nice words. Squishy hugs to you...

how are you doing honey? Lots of insensitivity on that thread sadly. The somewhat viciousness of some of the mumsnet posters sometimes leaves me hence i am very very select where i post. Look forward to hearing of a bfp very soon xx

Thanks pink thankfully i havent had time to think much about it with the weekend and all. DS spent the night in our bed last night after developing a nasty cough...doesnt cough in our room (?!?) bizarrely! Working today so at least that will keep me pre-occupied. Am quite chilled out, maybe i wont be tonight! Will see :)

Well done pink - currently the hate thread is no longer on discussions of the day!

Cool they emailed me last night thanking me for the heads up and they said they'd take it off. Hurray.

Hi Tony yes its me!!!! STILL here!!!! we still consider adoption but are currently still ttc!!!!!! After being pregnant with Georgie i want that again.Huge congrats to you XXXX Yes i ve had 3 mcs and 1 cp.My dd was stillborn at 41 weeks on 10th October 2010. All the best to you.Big FX.

Hi Nick hope you re ok? hope time isn t dragging too much.Yes, some people leave a lot to be desired but thats another thing i ve learnt since loosing Georgie .Take care XXXX

Thanks Pink i m not brave just learning to survive.Hope you re ok? Plod on 1 day at a time. I m too "hiding" that thread now!!!! Its pointless for us [including] you lot who have all suffered losses 1 way or another.XXXX

Thanks Mummyabroad thanks for caring.Loosing Georgie has a way of putting things in perspective such as people who really don t know when they are well off!!!! Please take care.Good luck XXXXXX

Thanks ladies XXXXXXXXXX
Your support plus from my other threads more than makes up for the negativety.

Tunnocks yes, I have had a constantly upset stomach (if that's what you mean) since I found out - its either all or nothing if you know what I mean - regardless of what I eat.

Fingers crossed for you today, and I agree with the others that you should definitely complain. I feel so that you have had such appalling treatment when I was treated so sympathetically. It is very unfair

Good luck to Wombat and anyone else having scans today. I've got a MW appointment for bloods for my NT. Am going to wibble at her, I just know it....

Can I ask "Embarrassing Question of the Day"?

urge incontinency

Does anyone else have it and how do you manage it? I was diagnosed a couple of years ago and prior to PG was on tablets which worked like a dream. But I can't take them any more and I've had a high number of 'near misses'

I've done all the pelvic floor exercises in the world to no avail. Anyone else out there?

daisy can definitely identify with the stomach upset issue-same here, all or nothing...!! Sorry about the incontinency thing, it must be v v common though? I would definitely mention it to your midwife today, hopefully she's seen it before. Hopefully if you put it on the pregnant threads someone helpful will come along before some people shout at you for scaring them that it might happen to them... sorry, still a bit scarred from the incredible insensitivity on that other thread!!!

It's freeeeezing today!!!

daisy i have the upset stomach constantly, and the wind! YIKES! and yes have wee'd myself once or twice this pg thus far!