Freak out room for those newly updiffed after MC to hold hands and support each other...

[YourFriendBrian]

Hello!

Newly updiffed and freaking out about spotting, cramping, the wait until your first scan and each little twinge? Settle in for lots of hand holding and supprt until you're ready to move to grads.

Lots of love
Brian x

Was just there myself!!!! grrrr

I'm not even gonna look coz my rage monster will force me to post something on there!

How is the goo velvet?

Just creamy coloured goo for 2 days now :)

I'm finding things quite difficult because I have never had a sucessful pregnancy so I don't know whether certain things are normal or not and I don't want to keep asking on here in case people think I'm moaning or being insensitive to those who are not doing so well.

How are you AandR? Is it starting to sink in yet?

Velvet - oh dear about the feelings - passing over a nice and . Glad the goo has improved. And - please - ask away! This is the place for freaking out, over both possibly "normal" and possibly "abnormal" symptoms. I don't know what anyone else thinks, but I'm so focused on what might be happening to me currently, I'm completely immune from moaning/insensitivity (which I'm sure you wouldn't be anyway!).

A&R - hope you got your work done!

Irene - you are in classic defence mode, like many of us I think. We've been there before, planning way too far in advance, and it makes those dates hurt all the more when they come round.

teacake - hope you're okay.

Pink - at cake-bump!

As for me - I've had a quiet day. Rumblings of period pains, more brown goo but no more red, and plenty of nausea. Not quite sure what to think, to be honest. Just need to grit my teeth and hang on. We're out for the day tomorrow, and I'm dreading anything happening while we're away from home. Night night all!

velvet ask away-I'm in the same boat so have been asking lots of TMI questions!! I've had shedloads of creamy/White/clear goo-apparently it's normal but has me running frequently to the loo when things feel damp....

Hi velvet I've done this twice successfully before and do you think I can remember anything?!! Feel like a newbie myself - pretty damp thus way too. Did a mad dash through a grotty pub to get to a loo the other day as I was certain it was all over - never prayed so hard in my life (not completely certain which god I was addressing - maybe the goddess of fertility!)

Symptoms are pretty minor although lots of action going on in my stomach - I swear I have a cake belly too pink. I imagine it is the ligaments loosening up. Ms for the other two kicked in at 6 weeks and was like having had one too many the night before. For the mc I was throwing up ill so who knows this time. I am getting strange pains in boobs as well and they are a little lumpy but not much larger

Irene I am with you. I just can't plan for the future or even a couple of weeks ahead - futile attempt to not bond just in case.

emoo has the bleeding stopped. When is your next scan?

Oh dear, the rage monster did force me to post and apparently I am an unreasonable cow.... Oh well, don't actually care. In a way, I feel blessed-the MC and the wait for another BFP were one of the darkest periods of my life but it means that now even though I'm feeling permanently grim, I am still so excited at the thought there's a little person growing inside me and that hopefully I'll get to hold a baby in my arms. I think it would be a bit sad if I spent the whole (hopefully) 9 months griping and complaining, and not realising truly what a miracle it is that's happening, and maybe without the MC that's what would have happened.

emoo how's things today? The period pains are really unnerving, I've had them the whole time.

aandr I've had that same mad dash a couple of times-on one occasion I was in the loo for ages because it was a funny pink light that made it hard to tell what colour things were . Luminous pregnacare wee also gives me heart racing panic when I wipe....

Waves madly back at Dachs while still hoping that am double diffed or diffed at all.

Hi Owlbooty.

Wave at Pink - I agree with you on the being grateful to be pregnant. Nothing you say is going to make a bit of difference as pregnant women have a lot of trouble getting new ideas through their heads.

Lurking in slightly worried fashion 2 weeks and 2 days until next scan (who's counting?) and I'm not sure they're still there.

Pink - link me the thread and I'll come and support you.

TTT mwah you are the best. I don't want the little tygers stressed out though, and none of the women seem to get it anyway so I think it's a waste of your time, but it's on the 'discussions of the day' list under 'sick and tired of being pregnant' or on the pregnancy topics under 'hate being pregnant'. I was potentially a lettttle bit harsh with them but find it incredible you find these posts just a couple of clicks away from the doom on the conceptions boards. TBH they seem to all agree that RL complaining isn't on, but complaining here is. Maybe it is-my state of mind isn't v stable right now!!

Hugs on the worrying theyre not there front-I find scans help but the zen they give me evaporates within about a day and then I start worrying again!!! I'm trying to chant "no news is good news" over and over in my head but it's hard to convince myself as we all know that's not necessarily the case..... how are your symptoms going? Are you about 9 weeks now?

TTT you really are the best-I just read your lovely, articulate post.

tunnocks hmmm i don't have any experience of this but I'm sure some ofthe others do-if it's just pant liners it sounds hopeful to me. I can imagine how exhausting the hope/despair cycle is. I really would try to go to gp and convince him to do you some blood tests-you'd know within a few days definitively how things are.

Waves to mrs pretty how are you doing without the roids?

Hi Pink - I've found it and supported you. I doubt it will do much good. I have to say I never go anywhere near the GD threads (no offence to anyone here who may get it) as compared with type 1 diabetes I find it such a simple thing to deal with and have no patience for people saying "I can't have mars bars life is so unfair!". FFS I can't have most of the food I like or crave but I live with it because there's no other option, if I want a chance at a healthy baby. At least GD is just for pregnancy. Type 1 is for life. Rant over. It's a bit like someone being hospitalised for pregnancy sickness and on a drip being complained to by someone else about how they feel a little queasy and don't quite fancy a full fry up.

I'll be 10 weeks on tues. I'm still feeling quite tired and that's my main symptom. Little bump as well but I'm not putting any emphasis on that as had that the last time - sac kept on growing when baby died. Queasiness appears to have gone away. I'm moving house on weds as well so a little stressed about that.

Thanks for your comments on the scan. That was my theory but I would have liked one more just for reassurance. However, I don't have time to go haunting the EPU and persuading them to give me reassurance scans. I just need to practice zen calm. I did suggest to dh that I should try hypnotherapy to increase calm, particularly as I was getting worked up about the idea of having another c-sec. He thought I was doing quite well and should leave it for a while. (Plus I don't think he really believes in it and thinks I just slept through all the sessions because I was tired )

Waves to teacake.

Oh teacake that does sound reassuring. When I was bleeding (lots and lots) back in October lots of people posted about red/pink/clotty bleeds that turned out fine. I really hope that's the case for you xxx

Ok pink I give up. It's not worth it. They're not helping my still strong antipathy to anyone pregnant . I'm still waiting for someone pg to ask me to give up a seat on the tube (TTT rubs hands at thoughts of response, while sincerely hoping won't have to put planned response into action)

Ooh TTT we're almost exactly the same way along-I'm 10 weeks on Monday! FWIW I think hypnotherapy is fab-I got a couple of CDs off the Internet and I find them really helpful. MIL is a hypnotherapist and says it still works even if you fall asleep-bonus!! I really hope you don't get flamed on the other thread-they are quite ranty over there!! I think you hit the nail onthe head, it's the word "hate" that has been grating....

It's crazy-I only discovered MN during the MC and came across nothing but lovely, supportive women who are incredibly kind to each other. I've since discovered that there are many dark corners here too though, and some really spiteful trolls!! For example, there is a hilarious thread by a woman who thinks it's funny that she's growing a willy as she's pregnant with DS. 90% of people think it's funny, the other 10% are unbelievably harsh and pointlessly mean. I don't get it!! I have to wonder if MN makes them brave or if they are that vile in real life too.

I'M WAITING TO BE ASKED TO GIVE UP MY SEAT TOO!!!! I Sooo want to be asked, I can't wait!!!

Are you a double diffed version of me??? Do you have bump rubbing rage too???

Jeez sorry TTT you shouldn't have got involved-I think I've officially discovered the most vile spiteful corner of MN yet. I am going to retreat back to just this thread and hope like hell a) pregnancy doesn't make me that mean and b) I never encounter people like that in real life....

I am in a middle of a fight with my HR in Poland about their failure to produce a correct letter for me. Does that count as rage? One of the better lines in my response to their response to my complaint was that they had used the facts of complaint 1 to answer their entry about complaint 2. Did I need to raise a new complaint for poor accuracy?

I think we're both at the same stage and the hormones are going strong. Haven't burst into tears yet though. I get slightly worried when I'm not sufficiently hormonal as feel that may be a sign it's all gone away.

I'm not bothering with that thread any more I know enough moaning idiots delightful pregnant women in RL to hear similar things if I so desire. No need to seek out internet versions.

MN is like that. The conception and miscarriage boards do seem to be very supportive as is the multiples on the one time I've posted. I've tended to go more for childbirth than pregnancy board as there are a few people who regularly post round there who are quite sensible.

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I'm not bothering with that thread any more I know enough moaning idiots delightful pregnant women in RL to hear similar things if I so desire. No need to seek out internet versions.

Pink I swore after the mc I would never whinge about any unpleasant pg symptoms. Fair enough I haven't had the full-on version of morning sickness (and I've seen people hospitalized with that so fair enough) but like you lot it's generally been happiness at feeling queasy/bloaty/grotty/hormonal etc.

I think they'll just never understand what it's like; we can't expect them to because I know full well that I was equally idiotic/optimistic before the mc. You just can't get that state of mind back (lobotomy, anyone?).

Add to that the unfortunate fact that people are far more likely to behave like arseholes on the internet than in RL and, well, Tony is right, best not to go near them. I also avoid the 'omg am i pregnant???' ones as they fill me with (non-hormonal) rage. :)

Hugs to teacake and moo

velvet ask away - this is exactly what this thread is for. The dafter the better :)

am at your attempts to get through to the idiots on that thread! It is the fact that they have put 'hate' in their thread title that annoys me.

Rage monster seems to be asleep this morning - maybe thats because both DH and BIL were out all night and still havent returned so its just me and the dog :)

I'm starting to get a bit queasy in the mornings and my appetite is on and off - I'm really hungry this morning but I feel sick and I can't actually think of any food that I fancy eating. I'm off of tea and everything smells funny (I went off on one yesterday about how the house stinks as DH quickly escaped to football). What do you guys eat when you really dont want to?

I'm almost out of my bras already and I'm sure my nipples are leaking something as I have white flakey bits - is this even possible so early??

I didnt even test til I was 7 weeks last time so can't possibly have had all of these symptoms - either that or I was completely oblivious to everything!

Oh, one last thing - I have some twinges which I know are normal but some of them go right down my fanjo (still love that word!) - is this normal too??