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Freak out room for those newly updiffed after MC to hold hands and support each other...

987 replies

YourFriendBrian · 18/02/2011 08:35

Hello!

Newly updiffed and freaking out about spotting, cramping, the wait until your first scan and each little twinge? Settle in for lots of hand holding and supprt until you're ready to move to grads.

Lots of love
Brian x

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Ladybee · 25/02/2011 12:49

Tunnocks I'm so very sorry to hear your news, your feelings about whether you'll get to hold a newborn again is very much in my mind as well Sad, we have so many lovely pics of DS when he was tiny around the house and they just feel like reminders of what won't happen again at the moment. I'm trying to remember that I'm blessed to have those photos in the first place, but it's hard to get so close to achieving the one thing in world you want so much, and have that hope dashed all over again. In one of my howls, I said to DH that I wished there was something else that I wanted, that I could work for, but there just isn't. Work, house, money, travel it all seems very insignificant in comparison with my desire to have a healthy baby.

Sorry you're getting poor service from healthcare - it's so hard to deal with on top of everything else.
Bad enough having to do all the work cancelling etc. If you can be seen on Monday, then press for a scan to check everything is ok, and just ensure it's recorded in your notes. My leaflet from EPU said that if I miscarry naturally I should return 2 weeks after for a scan, so this shouldn't be beyond normal treatment. It also says that if I'm in a lot of pain to go to A&E or come into EPU.

Wombat and Pink so pleased your scans were good, I was starting to dread being the start of a run of bad news and getting very nervous for you both. Not as nervous as you were, of course, but still. Wombat really hope that NT scan shows a nice thin layer and that you can set mind at ease for a few weeks. You should get a good long look with that one too.

velvet I think you need to stop expecting yourself to feel relaxed about this. Why on earth SHOULD you feel calm, happy and optimistic about it? You're in a situation that you know can go wrong, and if it does go wrong you know exactly what sort of pain and frustration you'll experience because you've just lived through it. Plus there's no way of knowing for sure what is going to happen, just a series of indications of what has happened so far. Sorry this isn't an 'it'll be alright' because I can't tell you that. So maybe you just need to accept as much as possible that it's scary, that you desperately want it to work, and that you're doing what you can and can't control everything. It's a sucky situation and putting pressure on yourself to be happy about it isn't going to help.

I've spent much of today on the phone sorting out a private ERPC, calling insurance to check it's covered then trying to find a good place. I was up at the NHS epu yesterday confirming that it was what I wanted, expecting to be booked in quickly (as this is what happened last time), but they've re-organised things and now they're only done at a hospital quite far from me, today's list was cancelled, computer system was down so couldn't confirm when blah blah blah. I am still waiting for a phonecall from nurse to tell me when it would be on NHS so decided I may as see whether private would cover it and am pleased they do. Have also got GP to sign me off for two weeks. Every time I do something to 'deal with' it, I have another cry because it reminds me that what I want to be doing is a booking in appt, etc. But it's one way to get through the day.

Felt really upset when I walked home from taking DS to his childminder and realised I still had my morning nausea, how wrong is that?! Oh well, DS is starting afternoon nursery sessions at the moment and it's his last 'settling in' today, so best think about going to pick him up and take him to his 'little school'.

I have everything crossed for you digi.

Ladybee · 25/02/2011 12:49

ooh X post - good news, 2 days isn't a big variation dig.

mummyabroad · 25/02/2011 12:53

digi thats very good news that there is a heartbeat. Do you know what speed it was? Hope you are not too worried about the size, keep in mind that two days out can easily be explained by inaccurate measurements, either this time or last time.

teacake oh I am so sorry your doctor is a shithead.Angry Its not true at all that there is "nothing they can do" they can confirm if you are mc-ing or not, and if you are offer pain meds and check ups. Try and remember that not all doctors are crap though, if you did go to A & E you might find someone more helpful there, so dont be afraid to reach out for help if you need it.

wombat best of luck on monday for the nuchal.

I still have high tempsGrin, no bloodGrin and am off to the clinic to get my HCG measurement soon.

mummyabroad · 25/02/2011 12:57

xposts ladyB I really admire you being so proactive and getting it together to organise good care for yourself. Hope it helps the recovery go a little bit easier. xxx

DoubleDiffedDachs · 25/02/2011 13:04

dig two days is nothing - my pups were fertilised at the same time and were put back in at the same time but measure about 2 - 3 days differently from each other in my scans!

bee I'm sorry that the NHS are being crap. Glad you have managed to sort out something privately. I'm sorry you are going through this.

pink and wombie I'm glad your scans went well.

velvet Put together a list of all the stuff BIL has scoffed and not replaced and present it to him as a shopping list, then put locks on all the cupboards and confiscate his house key.

DoubleDiffedDachs · 25/02/2011 13:05

mummya Good luck with the hcg measurement! :) FX it's gone up nicely

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mrsrobinredbreast · 25/02/2011 13:34

Oh Tunnock and Ladybee, you brave ladies. I wish, wish, wish that you didn't have to go through this.

Ladybee, sorry you are getting the runaround from the NHS but great that you are able to go private. It might be better for you at the end of the day.

Tunnock, I can't believe that the receptionist and nurse were so insensitive and rude to you. Not at all helpful or acceptable IMHO.Angry I second what everyone else has said about pushing for a scan and getting everything recorded as it were.

I am realising now just how fab the ladies on here are with their advice and understandings.

Thinking of you both. Try and take it easy a bit this weekend and rest.

digitalgirl · 25/02/2011 14:01

Thanks dachs you're story continually gives me hope.

The nurse scanning me said two days out isn't a problem - a week out would be. I'm looking for all the positives in this. I asked if hb was strong, as this was the same nurse who scanned me in the last pg when hb was bradycardic - she said it looked fine, but didn't give me a measurement. She also put 6.4 in the crl measurement but not sure if that is mm or 6wks4days as she said that's what I'm measuring. Surely at 6+4 the crl would be longer? Don't tell me if not, I'd rather not know. Either way, baby at 6+4 is already a whole day bigger than the last one which stopped at 6+3, so one milestone passed (only just).

Had a panic attack this morning just before setting off. Cried the whole 50mins they kept us waiting. Am thoroughly exhausted from the anxiety of it all. Was hoping to feel relieved but am still v on edge about it. Hoping the rescan in two weeks will be more reassuring.

Mum is cooking me some lunch so will be less mememe and do proper name checks later. Hugs for lady & teacakes - I must sound like a bloody whinger to you both, hope you'll forgive me.

tonythetyger · 25/02/2011 15:11

Ladybee - try doing things to distract you. I found computer games quite good. Also films providing nothing baby related in them.

Under no circumstances watch the final episodes of ER which was my special treat the day after the ERPC. Saved up because I hadn't had time I thought I'd watch it. It ends with the birth of twins and the mother dying as a result leaving a large family behind. I sobbed and sobbed at the birth part but didn't really care about the death Blush

DoubleDiffedDachs · 25/02/2011 15:23

agree with tyger re: ER. Although I'd say avoid all episodes. Started rewatching from series 1 when I has my mc and so far in every episode there has been something related to babies. Am now on final series

getawiggleon · 25/02/2011 16:16

Just dropping in to offer tunnockssome support and a huge squeeze. I'm so so sorry to hear what you're going through. I was quite Shock at the reactio from your GP surgery.

When I started bleeding it was over a weekend. I called NHS direct and even though I was just spotting at the time they advised me to go to A & E to get checked out (tbh at that time it was nothing like what was to come, and I didn't for a minute think I was/would mc)

The doctor I spoke to even called me back 10 minutes later to double check I definitely didn't have a fever, vomiting etc (even though he'd already asked me) I think he was covering himself re ectopic pg.

I'm truly amazed that your surgery has told a newly pregnant woman who is bleeding to just sit it out at home. Personally I would try and see somebody else if that is possible. I went to two different A&E hospitals and in the second (bearing in mind this was a Saturday night in London) bumped me to the top of the list and saw me straight away. You shouldn't have to suffer at home without any effective pain relief. You will hold a newborn in your arms again and you have to believe you will too xx

Bee Big squeezes for you too. I'm sorry you're having to have an ERPC at all but glad you've found somewhere good to do it. Sometimes taking whatever we can in our own hands makes us feel a little bit in control of the things that we have no control over at all (if that makes sense!) xx

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owlbooty · 25/02/2011 17:46

Hello lovelies, I have returned from the wilds of Devon - where to begin? A lot's happened in here in the last few days.

Bee - I'm so very sorry and hope that you and Mr Bee are as okay as you can be, and getting lots of cuddles with gorgeous MiniBee. It is utter, utter shit that you are going through this again and I wish I could give you a massive hug. :(

Tunnocks Again; I am gutted for you and am really hoping that the next bean is the stickiest sticky bean in the history of stickiness - it WILL happen. And please, please, let me punch everyone at your stupid ignorant GP surgery because they truly deserve it. Do not feel at all bad if you want to go to A&E. That is exactly what it's there for.

Digi and Wombat So pleased the scans went well - I remember sitting outside the Mat unit crying before the 12 week one so completely understand how awful it is waiting. One more milestone ticked off; on to the next one.

Velvet he nicked your chocolate?? That is a hanging offence. Chuck his stuff out on the lawn and change the locks!!

Oh - and whoever said that nobody should feel bad about posting bad news in here - absolutely spot on. This is exactly what this thread is for - good news AND bad news. Oh, and the odd haddock in the chops.

Now who was it who was peeing on CB digis?

Wombat33 · 25/02/2011 17:51

Ooooooooh cream tea! Is clotted cream permitted...??

Welcome back Owl

Daisybell1 · 25/02/2011 18:04

Owl, whilst you're waiting for the CB digi pee-ers, could you possibly lob that haddock in my direction?

I have no idea why, but I've become convinced I'm having a MMC.... All my tiredness and sickness symptoms have vanished, and my BiscuitBiscuit feel far less lumpy Sad

I've got my (supposedly) 12 week scan on Weds and I'm convinced they're going to tell me there's nothing there.

Sorry for all the me me me comments, am about to start making a custard cake if anyone wants a slice?

owlbooty · 25/02/2011 18:16

Clotted cream is full of calcium and therefore positively encouraged, as is custard cake Grin

SPANG!

Trust me, thinking they'll find nothing there at the 12 week scan seems to be perfectly normal behaviour, mental though it is, I certainly did it. I think most of the people on the Grads thread would admit to it too :) You've got to remember though, the placenta takes over round about now so symptoms do tend to go. I remember around 11 weeks I was able to drink cups of tea again - I didn't know whether to be delighted or terrified.

Wombat33 · 25/02/2011 18:24

Ooh yummy, I'll have a bit of custard cake!

Daisy Owl is right, I'm also feeling better (have been for the last two weeks and there was definately a baby in there when they checked this morning!), as is a RL friend who's at exactly the same stage. I also went on holiday at NY with a friend who was 10 weeks at the time and she was just starting to feel normal again then too. Hope that helps!

Daisybell1 · 25/02/2011 19:27

Thank you for the reassurance Owl and Wombat, I'm glad starting to feel better is normal and I'll try to appreciate it!

Was feeling hacked off with myself so have just taken it out on OH, swearing at him about the state of his dead mother's kitchen cupboards Blush.

Custard cake may be delayed as I'm still reeling from Owl's whack - blimey missus, you've got some biceps! Grin

PinkFondantFancy · 25/02/2011 19:30

Hello all,

I'm reading and posting so this is going to be in a weird order...

owly nice to have you back, thanks for the yummy scones on nom nom. Hope you had a good time!

daisy I'm 9 and a half weeks today and when the dr asked me how I was at my scan today I told him I'm scared because my symptoms have eased right off and I have patches of feeling actually normal at the moment. He said it's a GOOD thing and that at this sort of stage onwards your body is getting used to the hormones etc. etc. etc. And this seems to tie up with wombie's experience so hopefully it's all good and nothing sinister.

tunnocks ((hugs)) sorry you're having to go through all this again :( I don't know how you feel about this sort of thing, but I'd read that reflexology/acupuncture type stuff can help things along - maybe worth a try? I am still staggered at the neglectful way that the GP surgery is treating you - I hope they've fitted you in for an appointment. Sorry about your mum's comment too - someone else said it but I agree that if she's never experienced MC she won't realised that you'll have already bonded with your little bean. I really hope you make it to centre parks in a couple of weeks.

Waves to TTT hope you're doing ok!

Hugs for you lady too, I hope you're doing ok and your little DS is giving you lots of lovely hugs. Good work getting the ERPC done privately.

mummya how did the bloods go today? Fingers crossed for great news! You are a braver lady than me with continuing with your temperature taking!!!! I don't think I could take the stress every morning!

digi the results of the scan sound fab! I agree with the others - I've had one that was +/- 4 days the the Dr was completely chilled out about it, I think it's very approximate at this stage so being as close as 2 days is v. good!

Hope you all have a lovely weekend nice ladies!!! xxxx

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Emoo · 25/02/2011 22:52

dachs wombat digi and pink so glad you've all had good scans today or yesterday. Dachs, your story in particular gives me hope, as you seem to have had brown goo and red blood too. Unfortunately my brown goo turned red today. I know it's not over until the fat lady sings, but I think I can hear her warming up backstage Sad. Have an appointment Monday (if I make it until then). I am 8 weeks today.

teacake so so sorry you seem to be going through this again. Absolutely heartbreaking. I sympathise with you wanting to avoid hospitals just now. A chat with your gp will be sufficient to get this recorded in your notes in case you need future referral.

ladybee hope you are doing ok - sounds like you have had a busy and stressful day.

Hello to everyone else.

OrangeGloss · 25/02/2011 23:02

Digi I measured 11 days under based on LMP, but I do have 35 day cycles. They weren't bothered in the slightest, said up to 2 weeks either way is fine.

Now I'm a bit worried they said anything over a week is a problem. Plus, I still have MS at 12+5. is that a bad thing I'm not used to the hormones then?! Aaagghh too much to take in so late! There was a woman on my course that was sick right through both pg's including labour Confused

Will be back for proper catchup tomorrow

PinkFondantFancy · 25/02/2011 23:10

emoo really really hope things are ok for you this weekend.

orange don't stress-I made my mum puke all day, every day, all the way through Grin. I got all my nutrients from rice krispies-only thing she could keep down!!

teacake feel free to pop in whenever you need some friendly ears-we all understand what you're going through. Xxx

IzzyWizzyletsgetbusy · 25/02/2011 23:23

Just a quickie - tunnocks I am so so sorry to read your news and am hoping and praying that you are wrong Sad. I am also so Angry about the way you are being treated by your gp, please push for more help, you really shouldn't have to suffer this alone. Thinking of you xxx

And of course a huge Grin for those of you with good scans today - digi my edd changed by almost a week between scans at one point, it was fine x

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