Just MC and ready to try again? Pack your cake, wine and tightie whities and join us for more ranting, weeping and most of all laughing! All welcome! (Part 12)

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A safe place for everyone on the TTC after MC rollercoaster. Welcome and come in - virtual wine and chocolate for all, and lots of support and hand-holding until you get your BFP!

The thread moves fast but don't let that put you off - feel free to come along and stay to chat; or dip in and out with any questions.

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WTTC = waiting to TTC
UCL = usual cycle length

Good luck to all - here's hoping for lots of healthy, sticky BFPs by the end of the thread

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Latest stats to follow in a moment!

Good to hear from you Mouse and glad the NHS have been very supportive.

Cep - sorry about your argument with dh. My dh has a habit of saying I spend too much time on here. As it happens, I am on quite a bit but dip in and out, you know 5 mins here, 5 mins there which compared to his hour or two on an evening works out that he prob spends more time on here than me! I think dh and I are a bit the opposite to you two though - dh loves to talk...and talk..and talk, whereas I love peace and quiet and don't find silences awkward etc. My SIL is a real chatterbox and although I love her dearly I feel like I have done a workout once she leaves!

Mummya - at your stat compulsion! How can you even be arsed??

Hadrian - I love the theatre, what did you go see?

Dachs - Brilliant news on the progression. Now...CHILL! For the weekend at least

Orange - Ooh, sounds like a lovely relaxing break, I am very But, you def deserve it.

YRMOTB - I am on the outskirts of Huddersfield, are you this neck of the woods?

Hellooooo to everyone else!

Any news from those waiting for AF/POAS??

Dh and I went out for a nice meal last night which was the first time we had some 'just us' time outside the homw in about 6-8mths or so. It was lovely

We have friends over tonight so need to clean this house and get all the bedding washed. And convince myself that although I could be 10dpo I could also be

Oh chloe I'm in your neck of the woods (ish) I'm in saddleworth. fingers crossed for your POAS..... When it's time x

mummya sorry missed I your reply. Costa Rica, wow. Sounds lovey and warm, unlike me right now.... My toes are freeeezzzxiiinnnggg. It's sunny here today though (we don't get to see the sun much up here in the north) Off for a walk to make the most of it!

Ooh proper out in the sticks Collie

Hi ALL Sorry I haven't been on since last weekend, I don't know where the times going, there isn't enough hours in the day at the minute!

Just a quicky to say congratulations Dach I had a good feeling about this time for you, pleased to here that it was right!

I'm ok, af starting to tail off now- its been the most horrible af I can ever remember! The last horrible one like this was the cycle I fell PG (but later mc) so hoping that my reward for enduring really bad cramps etc. will be a bfp in a few weeks time

Oh been meaning to say I have been thinking about those that are considering stop temping between ov and af. Could ov not be delayed? FF has on a occasion changed my ov date if a clearer thermal shift has been seen. If not temping this would be missed and possibly test too soon/think luteal phase is too long etc? Dyswim? Obvioulsy if you have an extreme thermal shift this wouldn't be the case but mine is quite small so could possibly be missed?

Right I'm off to the metrocentre for some retail therapy... PS Chloe Nipple changes sound promising fx

hear obviously not here!

my DH is also useless. I keep meaning to read men are from mars - speaking of the words quota, we havent really spoken at all since BIL moved in and the other night I mumbled something about DH being selfish and not helping make it easier to have BIL here esp with trying to SWI etc as I drifted off to sleep. Well usually he would tell me to shut up but he kept trying to wake me up to TALK!!

No POAS early chloe - if its negative you will only do one in a few days time anyway so its better (and cheaper) to wait.

I finally have regained some modicum of postivity after this months af. I think having BIL here has definately had a negative effect on our ttc efforts so I'm kind of not including the time he is here. Also, have spoken to our friends in Japan and we are starting to plan our Easter trip to visit them so I have something to focus on :)

I hope all the diffders are taking a leaf out of oranges' book and relaxing this weekend.

Hi to everyone - you know im rubbish at individual shouts

morning all

cep sorry you are having a hard time with DH.

collie when the VIP free month trial finishes it just switches to the basic version, which does the job fine but doesnt have as many bells and whistles. If you recommend the site to someone else you both get 5 free VIP days, next time someone wants to join, post your chart for them to sign up from.

hadrian @ BFN festival! I got another one today, but at least it gets it out of the way early and I dont have to spend the whole day wondering if I should test (much more torturous)thanks for the hand to hold

Dach nice to see you in the BFP list

loola glad it's coming to an end, enjoy your shopping.

Velvet It's got to be so difficult with you bil in the house. I used to live with my mil for about a year or so. Thankfully she moved out into a house with her boyfriend shortly after she found out we were expecting ds. Do you go out just the two of you? Or maybe have a night away somewhere. last minute.com sometimes has some cheap hotels on offer.

velvet feck it, it's your house, just ignore bil and just engage in some really noisy sex as many nights as you can manage. He'll soon move out.

mummya bonus points for effort, you're making me with the daily poas update. I keep thinking of Dory in Finding Nemo...just keep peeing, just keep peeing...Anyway the charts looking good so fx for you x

loola no I'm not going to worry about missing ov, I'm monitoring temps and using opks and cbfm until ov is identified so I think it should be fairly clear. And I do think the stress is counter-productive. Will be lovely to get past ov and then just bin it for a week or so and it won't make a blind bit of difference to the outcome anyway!

I think part of the stress for me is that it's so out if my control, I can seemingly do everything right for months on end and it makes no difference anyway...I think instead of getting all uptight and frustrated about this (as I have been) I need to embrace it a bit...kind of accept that it's not something I can control and therefore the pressure's off to some extent. I can't stress too much about how to get pg because it's not just down to me; as long as I'm looking after myself and swi-ing around the right times everything else is out of my hands. Does that make sense?

orange glad to hear you're chilling a bit (you too, dachs ). I think if we want anything doing we would have to think about going private. I spent last night studying the PCT's criteria for even getting assessment/investigation on the NHS and we wouldn't qualify, ever, for anything because we already have children. Bizarrely, if I left dh and got together with someone who didn't have children I would qualify . I'm not sure how dh would feel about private testing; maybe I need to ring up and get some basic costs details and then talk about it.

izzy makes perfect sense I think it's a really good strategy and I hope it works for you

velvet men are indeed from mars and also, hasn't you bil outstayed his welcome yet??

izzy I like your stress-free approach, it makes perfect sense to me. I know it's easier said than done but I'm going to try and focus on things I do actually have a bit of control over like doing some new projects at work and planning holidays.

velvet I love Japan, where are you going? I lived in Tokyo for six months a few years ago.

chloe I saw the RSC's production of King Lear and it was awesome. I'm not normally that cultured, my Dad bought us the tickets for Christmas

Another BFN for me too mummya. I feel like such a fool but it's great to have a partner in crime!

Hello everyone, I can't keep up with you lot!

Just wanted to share with you a new way I've discovered to reduce mentalling....
close eyes, visualise box(es) with lid (& label if necessary) then visualise bundling up all the mental thoughts and putting them in the box(es) for "later" - then at an appointed and appropriate time you can get them out again, but they also sometimes just go away of their own accord. If they reappear again at an inappropriate time, you just bundle them up again and calmly/quietly put them back in the box, a bit like a toddler going to bed

I know it sounds all airy-fairy but it does actually work, at least for me anyway.

Om!

Yes mamap he has outstayed his welcome but it looks like he's here fro a few months - he wants to buy a house now.

hadrian our friends live around 40mins outside Tokyo so we are visiting them, Tokyo, Kyoto (dont know how you spell it!) and generally travelling around for 2 weeks. Anywhere in particular we should go?

I'm not sure if I'm gonna stop temping after ov. I want to be able to take my charts to a Dr if it gets to a year of ttc with no luck so would he be interested in LP temps or not?

Well hello
Welcome to all the newbies, sorry you need to be here but welcome and hope you find it a lovely safe place to be.

So sorry I haven't been around for ages getting organised for the big move has been an absolute nightmare but it has finally come around

mouse - so so sorry to hear your sad news hope you are being well looked after

Dachs glad you are feeling optimistic, have been thinking of you

due to the big move down under, I probably won't get online much for the next week or so but I will be thinking of you all and sending happy vibes, and then I will become one of the internationals on this thread, as I don't know what I would do without you guys!

(((hugs))) to all.

wellie Good to see you! And good luck with the move :)

Peeps - I've set up another fred for the bfps to freak out on so we don't do it on here - I'd post a link but I'm not sure how! You should be able to find it without too much difficulty

It's been very quiet since Friday - is there anybody there?

morning all, hope all are ok today.

wellie Good luck with the move. enjoy OZ.

velvet i would definately get dh to take you away for a weekend or something, to have someone in the house for that long, giving you no privacy argh. you need some time alone. As far as what the dr would need i don't know but is best to do and take everything that they might even possibly be interested in.

I've never been to japan, can't see me ever going either to be honest dh just isn't interested in travelling anywhere. we only go to greece cause that's where some of his family still live. When are you going?

meant to say dachs i hope you don't all completely go we'd miss you. (and stalk the other thread)

I'm not going anywhere! I just thought it was a bit unfair to freak out on here about diffedness symptoms so i set up the other thread for freaking out.

of course not, just letting you know we'd miss you.

Morning everyone. Sunday already?where do the weekends go?!

Cep, how?s dh today? Letting you use the laptop in peace I hope

Velvet I love Japan too, we (dh and I) travelled it for a month last May. It was fantastic and the people there are just so unbelievably friendly, to an extent I have never experienced before. I am sure your friends will have lots of places to recommend but I?d suggest Nikko (about 30mins outside of Tokyo), lots of History. I?d really recommend Mt Fuji, we went out of season so couldn?t climb it but its just breath taking to see. Kyoto was our fav place, it?s a beautiful city with lots to do. I?d also suggest if you have time to visit Takayama. Its quite a small town in the middle of Japans alps but its really traditional and has great sake! I?m sooooo jealous!!

Hadrian where did you live in Japan? Sounds amazing. I?d love to have lived abroad for a while.

Hi wellie. Good luck with your move to Oz.

I hope everyone else is ok??

I took my temp again today. 98.34 (97.45 yesterday). This seems like a huge rise to me???

All the people with recent BFP?s (congratulations), how long did it take you to get one after your mc?

Collie It took me 6 months and three rounds of fertility treatment after my mc (one IUI and two IVF), but I'm not representative - it took me 7 years to get the BFP with the pg I mc, so I think 6 months is pretty good!

Not a charter myself, so I can't help with the temp thing, sorry :(

Morning Ladies

Wow this really is a fast moving thread!

You all seem very knowledgeable on this thread so was wondering if I could ask your advice?

Just to remind you I'm on my WTF cycle but for the past 2 weeks I've been getting pains in my lower right and sometimes lower left side (very intermittently) and they don't last long.

Last night I thought my AF was going to arrive as i was getting cramps but there's nothing there today.

Can anyone remember when they were on their WTF cycle getting these sorts of pains? I'm not sure if the pains in my side are ovulation pains?

Anyone's thoughts would be much appreciated!

Thank you ladies and hope you're all doing ok this morning :)

LILY - that does sound like ovulation pains but I am not sure it would last that long if it was. Could just be your body trying to return to normal, I guess that's why it's calle the WTF cycle, we never have a bloody clue what's going on!

Sorry for the me me me post but got to go out shortly so time is an issue but had frineds over last night and they all, individually, commented on the size of my boobs and the fact they look like they have grown a cup size overnight! - we have no shame amongst my friends They have been really painful, achy and occassionally stabby pains and I find myself doing the whole groping boob thing then having to remember that I am in public! I know this could be ov/AF etc but also having a very strange sensation which I have to share and see if others ever get this. I am not sure if any of you experienced this after your MC but I could def feel my uterus contracting back, like flutters. I actually thought at the time I was feeling the baby move early as it was my second, little did I know it had died 3 weeks previous Anyway, I digress. Basically I am getting these flutters again and am now . I don't think it is wind. Have any of you BFP felt this? Or even does anyone feel this before AF is due? Argghh I know I will relent to POAS this week

Hi lili I'm in my WTF cycle too and have also had those pains. Can't help any more than that though as I have no idea what they are! I've got period-like pains today so am hoping AF is on the way and I can get back to some semblance of normality.

chloe I'm thinking it's POAS time! Any idea when you ov'd?

velvet and collie I lived in Tokyo and absolutely loved it. There's loads to do in Tokyo - splash out and have a drink at the New York bar at the Park Hyatt for amazing drinks and views. I would definitely recommend Nikko and I also liked the open air museum at Hakone. Kyoto is an amazing place and I went to Hiroshima too which was a sobering but worthwhile experience

wellie are you really moving to Oz? How incredible! Good luck with the move. Whereabouts are you going to live? I lived in Melbourne for a few years (before Tokyo!)