I've just woken up from a nap, which was lovely and feel a bit more on equilibrium - mamapower I knew you'd quote me back at myself 
so hard to remember these thing when you get into crunch time but I'll wheel out the relaxing hypnosis tonight and hopefully that will help. Poor old DS was up much of the night with the onset of a heavy cold, hopefully he'll sleep better tonight now that's it's arrived in full.
Emoo that's just weird. Was it just the temperature that you added? I would have said day 18, based on last day of fertile CM, with a fallback on 3dpo, which is what you had on your WTF cycle as well. See what happens tomorrow?
Wellieboots I hope AF doesn't take too long, but if you bled for three weeks, then it's possible you're only just gearing up to ov now, and one thing I've observed on this lists is for some reason lots of women post-mc do experience a bit of pain and spotting around ov in their WTF cycle. Are you waiting this cycle out?
cep my DH & I had a problems at around cycle 2-3, I was using a clearblue fertility monitor and could feel myself getting more and more tense as we'd get to the 'high' and 'peak' because I'd be trying to ensure we SWI but DH would start feeling the pressure and we'd have failures, so then I'd be trying NOT to give pressure but also not to miss the window. It was horrible. I think he started getting disappointed himself around cycle 4 and I also just would let him know, "we're getting close to the week", and would then not stress about it as long as we dtd 1 every three days. On the cycle I conceived we actually only had sex twice when it mattered, and I didn't use the monitor at all because I didn't want any stress about it over Christmas. I did know I was going to ovulate because of charting, I'm quite regular on day 14 or 15, and I get a dip. I hope your DH chills out, but to be honest, I think sometimes its worth NOT discussing it at all and just leaving them a bit of space. He knows what needs to happen, and there's nothing more irritating that being asked to do something you were 'just about' to do voluntarily. It turns it into a chore, rather than a choice. HOWEVER, that goes for you having to give bjs as well 
or for that matter having to do anything you don't feel like doing. Sounds like he's trying a bit of power play with you and I'd squash that one before it gets any worse.
pink sorry for your rubbish tube journeys. I complain about the trains into London but they're actually quite civilised in comparison to the tube, much more space and there's not problem with seats at my station.
I listen to lots of podcasts to screen people out - think your CDs are a good idea. Either that or vomiting on someone's shoe.
Velvet I'm so 
for you that all the spotting did turn into AF after all. How are you doing today?
Tigger - apparating would be good, but my personal wish for commuting as always been (and always will be) THE JETPACK! I don't see why it shouldn't work - all those rooftops are ripe for landing zones.
Ah biscuitchart it's always a bit hard breaking in to an established thread, you just have to be brave and start posting. I hope those drugs treat you nicely - it's a type of MC 'management' I haven't experienced but none are exactly anything you'd wish for so I hope you're getting through it ok.
hadrian so what exactly gets taught on leadership training? I'd like some extra vision.
mummyabroad how are you feeling about the lining measurement now that you've had a bit of time to digest? Must have been v disappointing not to get the straightforward result...especially when you always seem to get the not-so-straightforward results. Hope you're not still shaking your fist at the skies.
youremindme I really hope you're one of those women with the weird shaped HCG hormones. Must be sooooo frustrating. Did that pink CM turn into anything? Courage m'dear!
Izzy had a sneaky peek at your chart - is v interesting with that spotting but staying wobbling along its path. Not your usual thing at all. Fingers crossed those temps stay up for you. Good job on the weightloss as well!
HongKongBaby good to hear all quiet on the HK corral for you. Let's hope there's nothing to find in the knicker check. But at least you know that bleeding is usual for you.
chloe that mix of being happy for someone but sad for yourself is not comfortable, is it. Hugs for you, chick, give it time.
dachs - sorry about DH being annoy-ed--ing. Obsessing is completely normal and will not harm either way, but I try to do some of my mad googling on my phone so that it's not completely obvious what I'm doing. BTW I've only ever had metallic mouth on pg .
Katherine and jigglebum good luck for these early cycles 
BrownB I loooooooovve that guiness chocolate cake - a good friend of mine makes it frequently (NB. NOT the only reason she's a good friend but definitely a contributing factor). I remember you from another thread but not sure whether it's this one or another.
Nice to see you caribou , how are you doing? And waves to backonceagain best of luck with the scholarship. Nickster good luck on Monday, I have everything crossed for you and am looking forward to hearing the good news when you get back from it.
What are these pom bear things? and where do you find them? and I don't mean the 
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THanks again for picking me and dusting me off and setting me the right way up, it was a big wobble but I do feel much better. You guys are great.