Charter's Anonymous: Volume 4, hoping our bodies obey the rules!

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Brand new shiny thread created (sorry Getdown, I am bored at work )

Hoping that all of us still waiting get the news we want and soon!!

At least it's almost New Year, new start

mrsp I'm so sorry hun. The first day is a load of crap. ((massive hugs))

Wave to all pg ladies, hope you feel sicky with sore boobs. Fingers crossed for those in 2ww and hope the ones waiting for OV with OV soon.

Quick question for all you expert charters - I went out last night and had a few drinks which for some reason lead to a crap nights sleep. I got to sleep at about 2am was awake at about 3:30, 4:20 then took my temp at 7:00. Would the rubbish sleep affect my temp? I'm sure I am OVing today but FF still days cd10!!!

Hi everyone,

Im new to MN and these boards and am currently ttc and find these conception threads confusing - Ive posted on the October bus but I chart mt temps etc so is that what this thread is for?

Ive bee ttc since last August, no luck yet.

Iwish - Im generally a poor sleeper so was worried about this when I started charting - I never get more than an hour or 2 at a time, and certainly not the recomended 3 hours for charting. But it hasnt affected my temps, you can always see where I have ov each month. I guess it must just be different for us all.

Raven two cycle buddies? How exciting! Am really hoping I start experiencing some symptoms over the weekend, it would be great if this was our month so fingers crossed!

Welcome Dream and it sounds like you've come to the right place! On this thread we all chart (mostly using fertilityfriend.com) and there are far more expert charters than me who can give good advice.

IWish sometimes when I've been drinking I get a higher than usual temp the next morning, but if I have broken sleep it results in a lower than normal temp! So long as you log both the drinking and broken sleep on your chart, FF should take that into account. I realise that was less than useless so hopefully someone else will come along to be more helpful!

MrsP sorry sweetness, for me CD1 is the worst so I hope you are having a treat filled day to counterract the disappointment. Sending (((hugs)))

Interesting truffkin I always assumed bad night's sleep = higher temp...

getdown glad things are looking good! What does that timeframe on that pg test mean, always wondered that. I haven't used one - does it mean time since implantation?

Aaargggh! 9-12 DPO is when I am at my mosst crazed and neurotic. Must chill out, must chill out, must chill out.

Welcome newgolddream. I have been ttc since august too so now on cycle 6. Thanks for your advice re temps too :)

Thanks truffkin. I have put in 'drinking' and 'sleep deprived' on FF and the circle is just hollow now. Hope my temps go up tomorrow as I'm sure I OV today. Keeping my fingers crossed for you too that it's your month :)

Wave to raven I know what you mean about being crazed towards the end of the 2ww x

MrsP - I hope you're doing ok. It's so emotionally hard on us this whole ttc business. Thinking about you and hoping you're taking your mind of it all.

Iwish - could you do an opk? Would that help?

I finally got a positive opk today on CD22. I don't expect to get a bfp this month but it's nice to know my body is trying to do something.

Hello Dream - nice to meet you! I know what you mean about the confusing threads. I think you just have to choose one that works for you. I found a lovely thread post mc but I just couldn't keep up with it as it was going so fast. This thread is brilliant too - I think you'll like it here.

I will soon be joining you crazy 2ww'ers! It's the WORST!

Popping in quickly My temps drop after crap sleep and go up after drinking (unless i drank with food).

Qn - if you drink and the next day your temps go up, do you put drinking on the day of your temp rise or the day you actually drankl? Same for sleep deprived too - what day/night do you put the info on?

Thanks everyone for the welcome! Im not obsessive about temping, charting, ttc ing etc but Im 40, work full time - so the advice of sex 3 times a week......well I would love the energy lol.

So not only does charting help me identify my fertile days, it also shows me Im actually ov - and that there is hope I might have another baby 1 day.

Hi ochaye. Ive been doing opks and yesterdayi did get a very dark line just not as dark as the control line and did one today and it's lighter. The same happened last month and I OV'd the day after the dark opk. Glad you got a +ve on the opk, I bet you feel better seeing that!

mrsa I put it in on today's date so today's temp in the chart has a hollow circle. Is that what you do?

Welcome newgold!

sorry mrsp

Lots of ladies in crucial second week - this is exciting.

I find my temp goes up after drinking. I got such massive spikes over Xmas party season that I omitted those temps. I have no idea what makes my temp drop though. Perhaps bad nights sleep but often the two go hand in hand! Strangely enough I'd been drinking last Sat night, but temp dropped the Sunday when I thought I might have ovulated. Thought that if I hadn't been drinking it may have dropped even more and made my chart easier to interpret.

So despite going to bed early again, my temp plummeted today making chart look very anovulatory although ff has kept the flaky crosshairs in for now. Cervix still v high, soft and closed. Also (tmi) got some brown bits in my cm too - mid cycle spotting? Cramping still going strong. I think I'm just going to have to accept that I haven't got a clue where I am in my cycle. I may be 6dpo. I may be yet to ovulate.

Weird and very personal q for all you cervix checkers: do you find that after ovulation your actual vagina (the canal bit, not the opening) narrows up more? On my period and leading up to ov I'm very 'wide' and accommodating (!) but after ov it firms up and is more difficult to check my cervix.

Thank you for all your lovely comments ladies, it's really cheered me up to know you've been thinking of me.

I'm having a bad day, worse than your average CD1 because I was so sure that we'd done it this month.

Hope you're all ok, catch up properly tomorrow. X

I find my temps always go up after bad night's sleep maybe it depends how long you've actually been asleep for when you take the temp. I don't know.

Welcome to newgold - temping and charting will give you lots of good info to go on so you can time your "shagging with intent" (SWI) to the very best effect You may later graduate to OPKs too

raven - thanks the conception indicator is supposed to tell you number of weeks since conception, but if you do more than one it can give you an indication if you HCG is going up - i.e. in the right direction. I vowed not to go down that path to hell route this time, but damn, they were on special offer in waitrose, so just accidentally put them in my basket yesterday!
Thinking of you and truffkin and pippa and Iwish as you enter the "crazy zone".

ochaye - yay for your positive OPK! Get on with the SWI! Hopefully this will be your month.

MrsA I always put the "disturbance" on the day where the wonky temp is seen, i.e. if the wonky temp is a tuesday, I write disturbed sleep, or drinking underneath the tuesday, even if it was actually the monday night. But as long as you are consistent, don't think it matters really

digi can't say I;ve ever really noticed about the,,, ummmm, tightness of the vagina mainly I think because I loathe checking my cervix, so once I know I've ov'd I just don't bother again until the next cycle!! Sorry to hear your temp dropped today, but don't despair, as a one-off temp drop doesn't necessarily mean anything. As long as the overall pattern is there I think it's fine. Hoping for a nice rise for you tomorrow!

Hi to everyone else x

poor MrsP. go and have a nice glass of wine and a cry hun, makes me feel better. im so sorry it wasnt your month, it sucks sometimes xx

Getdown mine was lower than yesterday but i think i ov'd today so should hopefully go up tomorrow. will it take FF another 3 days of even higher temps to confirm OV as it is still at cd10?
how are you feeling today?

thanks Iwish I have been feeling ok. Not sick exactly, but just a permanent kind of "empty" feeling in my stomach. Just had a really big meal and still feel hungry It's weird. Boobs are sore. That's about it.

I think FF does need 3 high temps to confirm ov. Good luck!

ravenlocks and truffkin - good to have some cycle buddies!
Temp was up a bit more this morning and that didn't happen on the last cycle so am finding it REALLY hard not to get excited....but will wait to take temp in the morning (which will be 11DPO). Fingers crossed it's still up!
Symptoms at the mo are constant hunger, sore and massive boobs (but feeling slightly different to when due on AF), brief flashes of nausea, fatigue and had a headache this afternoon. Still feeling bloated and had more cramps.
Am also convinced that nips are massive but DP is not so convinced
I think that I need bringing back to earth - it is still totally possible that my temp will take a nosedive in the morning and AF arrive shortly after but I'm finding it very hard not to daydream....I couldn't get back to sleep after taking my temp this morning (my alarm goes off at 6am every day).

Anyone want to have a nose at my chart and give their honest opinion?!

ravenlocks and truffkin - how are you both feeling???????

I suppose a link to my chart might help lol!!

www.fertilityfriend.com/home/franjam

Franjam I reckon if your temp's still up tomorrow you're in with a chance as in your other chart I think it had fallen by this point...fx for you!

Morning all - temp dropped by about 0.5 degrees this morning....boo!! Still above the coverline tho! Guess I'll just have to wait till tomorrow and see what happens!

((( mrsP ))) sorry she got you . Hope you're doing ok x

spilt and getdown and those talking about the harsh attitudes towards women in history who had difficulty producing a male heir - I agree it is so unfair and . I watched The Other Boleyn Girl a couple of weeks ago and it made me cry . I hate the way women were blamed and often abandoned/divorced (or beheaded!) for infertility/miscarriage/having the "wrong" gender baby.

So here is my slightly bizarre chart. Not sure what's going on with the huge temp hike - Saturday's can be blamed on Friday night drinks, but not today's. It's too early for anything exciting so I'm just hoping that I'm not coming down with something as that will mess up all my crucial week's readings!!! Usual cycle length varies from 24-30 days (luteal phase varies from 7-12 days) so AF is due anytime from Tuesday this week to the following Monday!

Well I am pretty sure that AF is on the way, and I know I am going to be gutted when it arrives. Especially as my sister is likely to be all smug on Tuesday about going for another scan.

Anyway here's my chart

auntied it's still heading up though - I don't think it's over yet!! Reckon the next couple of days will tell...

Auntie - your chart looks good to me (though I'm no expert) - how long's your lp normally?

Anyone who takes Evening Primrose Oil - how much do you take?? I bought 500mg capsules, and it says on the bottle 1-2 per day, but when I looked up using it to help conceive it said to take about 1500mg per day??

Hello to all xxx

I think my LP is 12-13 days (that is the one from conception to AF?) I should be due on in the next couple of days. Feeling crampy and tearful so I suspect I am out :(