By hook or by crook we will shag our way to victory - thread for the JSing viroids

[Miffles]

The (updated) (again) 'rules' from our Just Shagging Originator for the Viroids:

Maintain a relaxed attitude at all times - drink if you want too, especially on your birthday (or when you?ve had bad news). Thread precedent dictates if you drink to excess you will get a BFP (but not recommended).

Covet thy husband and enjoy every minute. Shag at every opportunity - shag-capes and awesome superpowers optional.

Keep acronym-age to a minimum! EWCM is now to be referred to as 'pant snot'. Try not to get sucked in by Fertility Friend (at least for a while), but knowing where you are in your cycle and furkling for pant snot is most definitely allowed.

Bunting is to be put out for any small victory, thread-parties are held regularly and hugs are always welcome!

Once you have your BFP, feel free to hang around and share your wisdom and virtual cocktails with the JSers.

Keep us up to date with gossip!

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Most of these rules are well and truly broken!! But we try to chill - honest

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Part 1 Graduates:
Tanmu82 - BFP
PrivetDancer - BFP
OnlyWantsOne - BFP
Frankenfanny ? BFP
Notso - BFP
knittakid - BFP
loopeylu - BFP
PinkFondantFancy - BFP
Grannyapple ? BFP
Fuzzywood - BFP
canoe - BFP
janedoe - BFP
StarflowerGirl - BFP

Part 2 Graduates:
ihaveaplan - BFP
lovemylulu - BFP
shitforbrains - BFP
gormers - BFP

Part 3 Graduates
Bonkerz - BFP
Kitten - BFP
Cowboylover - BFP
takingtheplunge ? BFP

Part 4 Graduates:
NoMoreChocBiscuits - BFP
Milanomum - BFP
TakeThatLady - BFP
Cremegg - BFP
BrassicaBabe - BFP
Dynababy - BFP

Shout if I've missed anyone

Vallinna - SO excited for you!
TTL - excellent news!
Quick sneaky from work...

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Thanks milano :)

Just realised my last post looked a bit rude ... I meant to say even though I don't know you ladies in RL I really feel I do on here and feel genuinely happy and excited when you all have good news

Yay Vallinna 2WW bunting and a not at all dodgey bung to keep them in there.

Nickel I confuse myself most of all these days! And sadly I can only see it getting worse in the near future.

TTL you're so sweet. We don't know you in RL either, but in viroid land you're a proven source of amusement and wit (if a bit wiffy from all the kippers).

My boobs hurt, but at least my bum seems to be less painful.

Really upset tonight as my other half isn't going to get back, from working abroad, for my early scan. He is really worried, so I have told him it's ok and I don't mind. Don't want to make him feel bad when there is nothing he can do about it.

Very nervous as I went on my own last time and it was a disaster. :{

Sorry for the rant

Oh Vallinna that sounds amazing, plus you have a picture :) I agree, make sure you cross your legs! I hope you remain sane throughout the next 14 days

Glad you are relaxing now TTL, know what you mean about RL and Viroidia (that would be the name of our country if we had one).

Nickel sorry I am confusing you! Don't mean to. Kipper me if you wish I also explained to DH about pant snot, but I didn't get the same reaction as you did; got told I was gross!

CD16 and have no idea if I've ovved or not. FF is just confusing!

Don't be sorry santababy2b, no wonder you are upset. Have hugs and cups of hot chocolate. Is there no-one at all who could go with you?

No, everyone is working and I havn't really told anyone about the bfp yet anyway.

Not a lot I can do. Hot chocolate sounds really nice though :)

Oh TTL how exciting!! Love that the bambino was chilled out on it's first TV appearance!

I feel the same re: good news on here. In RL I have been getting and at PG news where as on here it is almost earned (for want of a much better word and not to sound incredibly horrible in relation to the RL peeps)

Mog hope your DH's leg has recovered!! Men, eh? Sounds suitably acrobatic!

LOL NMCB I echo the sore bum - sore and bloated from egg collection...hurts to, errr, pass wind even. Reckon the cyclogest pessaries have bunged me up too!

Oh Santababy can it be postponed a couple of days so he can be there?

My cold is now full blown manflu complete with pints of snot and the Madge Bishop voice...

PS Testing on 30th....

Hey all!

Wow - so much going on! I'm not even going to attempt to keep everyone straight. But we've had amazing Christmas do's that make the rest of us ; implanation of 2 little embryos who are going to get super comfy and grow and Grow and GROW!!! And not fall out with sneezes; 2 scans showing healthy beans with arms and legs and heartbeats and EVERYTHING! What else....driving tests passed; JSing enough to sprain a muscle; not such nice news about DH missing out on scan (can it be delayed a few days, Santababy?); dirty sex talk and Mummy's actually having free time. Oh and the discovery of a new land - Viroidia

Not much news from my end. Been busy at work, so not even been able to read the last few days.

Had my blood test yesterday, but no results til next week (21 day progesterone to see if I ov'd). Seeing consultant next Tuesday, which will be CD28. Assuming clomid has put me on a 28 day cycle, I can't decide if I want to test then or not.....would actually rather wait until AF arrives. But if I am pg, then it would be better to say that to the consultant on Tue! But I don't want to even get my hopes up to think it'd work first time. So...dunno!! I know you'll all want me to test. You're a bad influence!

(really am so so happy that Vallinna has had 2 embryos implanted. You have so earned it!!)

Given myself a good talking to and decided to go to the scan by myself (plus have my phone on the ready for mumsnetting). The dildo-cam isn't that scary and if something isn't right it would be better to know sooner rather than later. I nearly poured myself a glass of wine earlier and then remembered why I was stressed

Vallinna sorry to hear you have this nasty cold. I have just got over it and it's not pretty.

I peaked at the ante-natal group board today and the month of August is packed. Don't feel brave enough to join yet!

for the sore arses nmcb and vallinna. Mine is surprisingly okay! Feel like I've hammered a load of nails into my nipples though!

miffles that's an amazing summary of the thread. PMSL

santababy2b are you sure you can't postpone the scan? I'm sure you'll be absolutely fine and no need to worry this time, but I'd feel exactly the same as you. Let us know the time and I'm sure as many of us as possible will be on here to celebrate with you (not that we're a substitute for your DH)

Awww thanks nomore you're not so bad yourself !

A long time ago I used to have pierced nipples, so can imagine your pain TTL

Will try to be around on 30th for Vallinna's testing. Make sure to let us know for the scan sb2b like TTL put.

Loving Miffs summary too. Just wait to test until you can't bear waiting any more. Will prob end up being before AF due, but if you do manage to wait you'll feel strong-willed.

DH has been playing football today, just texted to say he's knackered. Not good. He'll have to snap out of that when he gets in!

if I push my boobs, they hurt....

TTL that?s fantastic, bet it was a great moment for you and DH. Enjoy your alcohol free xmas party

SantaB2B sorry you have to go alone but hope your scan is ok

I?m so sorry to keep complaining but I?m having such an awful time at work. The new girl is here and she?s fab (except for the jealousy of her new baby) but the new senior isn?t, to put it plainly. I think it?s just a personality clash but she?s very nit picky and I?m too shy and quiet to say antyhing when she complains about something. Don?t get me wrong, I like her a bit as a person, just not as a boss. She can be quite arrogant. I was awake most of last night thinking about it and eventually cried myself to sleep (I?m pathetic I know). I feel a bit like going to the docs and getting something to bring my mood up. I do tend to have phases when I?m miserable and struggle to cope but I usually come out of them but it seems they?re more and more often at the moment. Ever feel like you just can?t do anything right?

Anyway, enough complaining from me (again)

Hope everyone is good and ready for xmas xx

josie sounds like you're having such a tough time. Could it be that work is just not right for you - is there anything else you could go for? Sounds like a trip to the docs might be a good plan - even just to set your mind at rest. I had a bit of counselling a few years back for shyness. It used to get right on my nerves because I was quite bloody loud and happy and confident with my close friends and family but felt like my personality just went missing with new people. I only went to six sessions and it seemed to just unlock whatever it was that was holding me back and now I never feel shy at all, which comes in very handy at work and makes me feel much better able to deal with things. The counselling was just very practical - I had to make a diary of times I felt shy so I could see what triggered it, think of practical tactics I could use to overcome it, etc, and try them out. Within a few weeks I never thought of it again. Maybe that would help you? (I know your feelings/issues are different, but still ...)

Oh Josie, I echo the other viroids. I think it is partly the feeling everything is out of your control too. A couple of jobs ago I got myself in a real state every Sunday night i dreaded the next week so much.

Didn't sleep again. Quite uncomfy from all the procedures of the past week, very bloated from the swelling they have caused (and the delightful Cyclogest no doubt) so struggle to get comfy. As a result, bit DH's head off when his snooze kept going off. Then got back to sleep to here the door bell go, rushed to get it only to realise it was a dream.... The door bell, not the rushing! Grrr!

On a happy note, of the horse show at Olympia tonight! Very excited!

PS miffs not ignoring your symptoms, just keeping things crossed!

Sorry you're uncomfy vallinna - but PMSL at answering the door after you dreamt the bell went off!

Yep miffles after I had the counselling (4-5 years ago now) I was unleashed lol!

TTL that sounds exactly like me. With family and close friends I?m very loud and speak my mind but with most people I just can?t let the real me come out if that makes sense. I?m not myself at all. I think that?s a good idea, can I ask how you accessed counselling?

Miffles hope the boob poking is a symptom? Thanks for your comments too, just typing it on here and people saying they?ve been through similar or know someone who?s been through similar is making me feel so much better. I feel like there?s a dark cloud hanging over me but it?s lifted a little

Vallinna sorry you?re uncomfortable and bloated, it?s all for a good cause though. Sorry you didn?t sleep and rushed to get ready for nothing, I bet you were fuming! ((hugs)) And I will be here on 30th, waiting with my fingers crossed for you! And I am sooooo jealous of you going to Olympia, I have never been but always wanted to. Been to Horse of Year Show a few times but Olympia was the next one I wanted to visit. You?ll have to tell me aaaaalllllll about it when you get back

Hi josie glad you can chat on here :) I accessed counselling through uni as I was still studying then. But I'm pretty sure you can do it through your GP - especially if you might be suffering from some sort of depression too. That's not something I have any experience of except that I frequently have students with depression (especially when I worked at Cambridge - people put so much pressure on themselves there) and I know from seeing them that there are lots of ways out to the other side :)

If it's any consolation you're one lovely viroid and it sounds like you have a lovely DH too. I've got no doubt you'll get through it and be bouncing your new baby about in the sunshine (real and metaphorical) very soon!

If I'm anything to go by you'll be flashing your boobs in Wetherspoons in no time

Am at work so very quick but just wanted to say vallinna I got my first BFP with DS on 30th December. It's a very auspicious time Will be keeping everything crossed for you.

Good morning lovely people of Viroidia!

Gosh it's only been a couple of days since I was last here and there has certainly been a fair amount going on. I can hardly keep up!

Santa sorry about your DH not making it back for the scan, hopefully the virtual presence of the Viroids can get you through it (and as we're all so certain it will be a lovely positive experience anyway, there will be nothing to worry about!) Could you perhaps mention to the nurse that you are a bit nervous given your experience and because DH isn't there? It might make a difference if she knows how you feel.

Vallinna even though you have man flu and are suffering all sorts of horrors, I am still soooooo excited for you, such great news about the 'above average' little beans. I have absolutely everything crossed for you, New Years Eve could be an extremely special night this year if you've just got your BFP and know that 2011 brings such happy events!

Miffy I totally get you on the preferring ERTD to arrive than seeinga BFN. I BFNd it big time a few months ago and although ERTD arriving is a bugger, it definitely beats looking at that bloody stick that's screaming 'no baby for you again' (well, that's how it seems at the time ) Keeping my fingers crossed for you though, sounds like promising symptoms so far.

TTL scan sounds wonderful, I really hope you can enjoy yourself now without any worries (I know this is easier said than done!) and start buying lots of tiny baby things.

Josie so sorry you are feeling down at the moment and like the others have suggested I really think some professional support might help you right now. Your GP can help refer you for counselling and does your employer have an Employee Assistance Programme? Someone like the probation service should have something like that I would think. Where you are struggling to cope with a specific situation, CBT can sometimes help. Have a look at this link here for some basic advice, there are also some really good self help tips on there too. Sending in the meantime. And look on the bright side, you have a wonderfull role model like TTL to aspire to!

So it snowed a little yesterday evening but I mean literally a tiny dusting on cars with nothing settling anywhere else. The forecast is of more overnight and we are supposed to be driving up to Birmingham tomorrow for a pre-Christmas night out with my pals. The forecast for the Midlands is heavier than London so am waiting to make a call in the morning if it's bad as I don't want to get stuck there! I am going for a 'colour consultation' in the morning before we leave and am not sure what to expect It was a Christmas present from my BIL and SIL last year and I need to get it done before the end of the year so am cutting it a little fine I'm hoping it is just a bit of fun and that I learn a bit about doing complicated eye make up as this would be a skill I'd love to have!

Oh Wow I'm not alone in the loud with those closest to me, but horribly shy and quite around everyone else, stakes! Josie I totally know how you feel and I'm liking the suggestion of counselling. Is it possible you have a touch of SAD(seasonal affective disorder) making things worse? I tackled my shyness with the unconventional method of international travel alone. It put me right out of my comfort zone and forced me to meet new people. Sadly having DS whilst still travelling did knock my confidence a bit, but I'm working on that.
I hope you find a solution that suits you xx

Vannilla I almost wish my bum hurt due to being bunged up again (I could just down a few prunes), but it's actually my PSD playing up and the joint that's painful is right at the top of my right butt cheek. I end up hobbling like an old woman! That's what I get for walking around on uneven ice covered footpaths.
Really hope you debung and decold soon so you can truely enjoy your 2WW.

Lots of snuggley [fbears] all round.

My goodness I didn't realise so many people were like me (I mean that in a good way!)

I remembered last night (then forgot again) that the service have a counselling service, might get in touch with them. I wondered about SAD NoMore, it's certainly been worse since the dark days came in , I actually cried when the snow first arrived

The good thing is that I get on really well with the new girl, what we were saying about being ourselves with close friends but not with people we don't know, but I seem to have clicked with her and feel quite comfortable when it's just us in the office, we can have wuite a good laugh

Glad you like your new colleague josie - always helps :) I wondered about SAD too. nomore totally agree about travelling - also forcing yourself to do all the things you want to do but that make you feel uncomfortable until you don't worry about them anymore, and drinking wine . Maybe not at work though

So sorry about the PND again nomore - hope it gets better soon.

OOh truff if you learn swanky eye make-up teach us all! I have a friend who does the MOST amazing eye make-up I've ever seen but she only does it quite rarely (she wears a headscarf at all times and doesn't usually wear make-up. But when she does it's FANTASTIC) - I have been begging her to teach me for ages. At the moment I've got a mascara which leaks all over your face if you blink up to half an hour before applying it, and all my eyeshadows are running out and boring.

Feel totally chilled now after the scan - thanks! And off to buy some sneaky tiny things tomorrow. I don't care what they are, as long as they're really really really small :)