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Just MC and ready to try again? Pack your cake wine and tightie whities and join us for more ranting weeping and most of all laughing! All welcome! (Part 8)

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MummyAbroad · 10/11/2010 19:37

A safe haven for those just off the mc rollercoaster and thinking about getting back on or are already on the TTC rollercoaster. Be warned these lovely ladies chat, and the thread moves lightening fast, but all are welcome to join in any time Smile

For those who have just mc'd, there is great info about your first cycle here

If you want to add yourself into the stats, just copy and paste the lot, change everyones CD (cycle day) if necessary and add yourself in.
WTF = first cycle after mc
WTTC = waiting to TTC
CD = cycle day
UCL = usual cycle length

OP posts:
loola2shu · 18/11/2010 21:49

Hello again ladies,

I'm back again! 3X in 1 day you can tell I've had a days holiday!

BEE I have actually fell a bit out of love with Nige this series, a bit too fake smiley smug me thinks!

Orange DHs are crap, mine is exactly the same!

AandR Chin up chick! I have been feeling exactly the same for the past few weeks, but feel like I have turned a corner tonight. Its funny I have heard people saying that they turned a corner and now feel loads better, and it has never happened to me before, but I really feel like I have! TBH I am still really low about MC but other stuff seems a lot better!

Nix I get the blues around ov too, I hadn't realised until you pointed it ut a couple of months ago! As if PMT isn't bad enough!!

Pink I hate that!!!! Eeeew! hit him with your handbag!!

Hi to IZZ URBAN Wombat and all others xxx

I am just chucking myself back in the list.... Apologies for being AWOL!

ooooh just thought if things stay regular this month I am due to OV Sunday, just got in and had no tea yet but think I might leg it straight to bed Wink

Thursday's List

Inbetweener TTC#3 Cycle 3 UCL 29 CD33 BFP!!
Jamface TTC#2 cycle 3 (post MC#2), UCL 27 CD35
Tunnocksteacake TTC #2, cycle 1, UCL28 CD27
PrettyQuichey TTC#1,(round 7)Cycle 6 UCL 28-30 CD 26
Getawiggleon TTC#2, cycle 1, UCL26, CD26
Loola2shu TTC#2, Cycle 2, UCL40 CD26
DachshundsRule TTC#1 cycle 3 UCL28 CD24
Nickstermum TTC#2 cycle 2 post MC UCL 30-40 CD24
GetDownYouWillFall TTC#2 Cycle 1 (post MC#1) UCL 27 - 44 CD21
Tigger15 TTC#2 cycle 20 UCL24-9 CD21
MamaPower TTC#1, cycle 4 (post MC#2) UCL 25- 27 CD20
Choccybick TTC#1 (post mc1) cycle 4 UCL 27 CD18
Kat2504 TTC#1, cycle 3 UCL 26-28 CD17
RunForTheHills TTC#1, cycle 2 UCL28 CD17
Wombat33 TTC#1 Cycle 2 (post MC) UCL 31 CD15
IzzyWizzyletsgetbusy TTC#3 cycle 4 UCL26-30 CD14
Sunchild77 TTC#3 cycle 6, UCL 24-28, CD7
youremindmeofthebabe TTC#2, Cycle 4 UCL33 CD6
LadyBee TTC#2, cycle 4 (round 3) UCL27 CD6
HongKongBaby#2, cycle 4 (post mc1), UCL 38, CD4
KnitterNotTwitter TTC#2, (round 3) cycle 4 UCL 25-30 CD3
Freezingmyarseoff TTC#2 cycle 6 UCL28 CD2
Orangetoenails TTC#1, cycle 1 (MC#2), UCL 35, CD2
Velvetcu TTC #1 Cycle 3 UCL 35, CD2
Pinkfondantfancy TTC#1, cycle 4, UCL 28 or 35 CD1
AandRmum TTC3 cycle 2 UCL29 CD1

WTTC
Hairytriangle
Shitforbrains TTC#3, MC 1st Sep
Sarahmia TTC#2, MC2
MummyAbroad TTC #2,(MMC#1 31 Mar, ERPC 7 Jul), Ashermans Op 16 Nov
Mousebacon TTC#2 MC#1 4th Oct WTF cycle
Barrenbrook TTC#1, MC#4 Oct 2010
Lemonsherbet TTC #1, ERPC 15 Oct 2010, WTF cycle
Batteryhen MC conf Oct 2010
Digitalgirl TTC#2, MC#3 Oct 2010
HidingInTheBackRow TTC#1 MC#1 Oct 2010
Nurse47 TTC#2, UCL28, WTF cycle ERPC 9 Nov

MIA
Sillyness TTC#1 post MC1 WTF cycle
Lottiecrump UCL 27/30
Cheepz TTC#2 (round 4) UCL30
BackOnceAgain TTC#3, MC 17th Aug

RECENT GRADUATES
BUnderthebonnet BFP 20 June
Muser BFP 22 June
northerngoldilocks - BFP 12 July
Magic8ballhastheanswers BFP 14 July
Hopefully BFP 22 July
IvySedai BFP 1 August
PenguinsMummy BFP 15th August
VivClicquot BFP 25 August
Loopymumsy BFP 29 August
CaribouMoo BFP 7 September
StarflowerGirl BFP ~24 Sep
Appleblossoms BFP 9 Oc
Littlemiss72
Urbanlolly BFP 1 Nov

loola2shu · 18/11/2010 21:50

Sorry I missed you off the list, memory only goes as far as the current page of posts! Wink

youremindmeofthebabe · 18/11/2010 22:15

Woop for mummye that's amazing!!! I will be back tomorrow to celebrate further!!

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AandRMum · 18/11/2010 22:41

IS THAT A POMBEAR Bear ? Oh so very cool! How sad am I?

As for Nigella - if I had a beautician, airbrush artist, wardrobe person, pa and whoever else she has making her look that way I'd look - most probably pretty much like I do Grin It would be such a responsibility being extremely sexy or beautiful ...

My only claim to star spotting is almost running over Boris Johnson!

If we are grumpy when we ov and just before af and during af - that doesn't leave much chance to make up with dh to ensure appropriately timed swi!

Ladybee · 19/11/2010 00:14

where did the Bears come from Grin

Yeah, I don't actually like Nigella, and I've gone off Nigel too, like their cookbooks, don't like their presenting, it's all a bit too self-satisfied. BUT if I looked like Nigella in all her curvy, groomed, lusciousness I think I'd feel quite smug myself. I would also like to look like Kirsty Alsop.

Was Boris on his bike at the time, AandRmum?

By the way MummyA - here's a big HOORAH! to your phone consult news. That must be very pleasing. I really hope the recovery continues smoothly and that you're back agonising over symptoms and unwelcome AFs with the rest of us.

Oh by the way, I saw something on another thread that was quite interesting. A study of timing of sex article here. What I thought was really interesting (apart from the results) was the Figure one. It shows the levels of various hormones in woman trying to conceive over 19 weeks. The grey bars show her periods. The bottom level shows the HCG hormone, i.e. what the pregnancy test picks up. But look, she gets a small rises of that before her 2nd period and it tales off, then where you'd expect to see the 4th period it shoots up, she obviously got a pg that progressed then.
I just thought it was interesting - sad, but it did seem to show that those mysterious symptoms could be v v early pg related, it just stops really early on and the period arrives as normal.

I don't know why I find that comforting. I guess it's because you see the woman getting pregnant and the levels rising at the end. Which seems reassuring - that it can work.

I've been thinking about the points you wrote from the fertility seminar as well, and I do think we put a lot of pressure on ourselves to get pregnant straight away, as fast as possible. Obviously, we feel that something that is rightfully ours has been taken away. And we want it back.
And we want some semblance of control. Even the title of that book Take CONTROL of your Fertility. Well, if we really could, we wouldn't be in this pickle, would we. But we can only get so far and the rest is (barring medical problems) luck. It's so hard knowing that, intellectually, and being able to accept it emotionally though isn't it. V Hard to find the right balance.

Here endith the musing. Time for bed.

OrangeToeNails · 19/11/2010 07:14

Morning everyone, sorry for selfish post and if you've done this to death already, but....

When should I OPK? 10 and 2 like driving?!

What are people's thoughts on exercise post OV?

Hope everyone's having a lovely Friday? Grin

kat2504 · 19/11/2010 07:18

too right it's hard to find the right balance. I hadn't really thought about it in that way before, but you are right, I want something back that shouldn't have been taken away from me. I wish I could control it but for now I guess I just like to think that I am doing all I can but it is a catch 22 because thinking about ovulation all the time is not really all that constructive.

Hope you are doing well mummy glad to hear everything has gone well with your operation.

kat2504 · 19/11/2010 07:22

Orange, I don't think the time is that important myself. But if you have trouble getting a positive result then twice a day might help. Choose times convenient to you, don't worry if it isn't exactly the same every day. 10 and 2 might be too close together though.

For example, at 6am yesterday I got a negative opk (with still a high on cbfm)but the opk had some colour in the line. At 6pm I got a result that was very close to being positive but not quite dark enough. So this morning at 6am, I got a positive and a peak on the cbfm. Yay! I have done my hair all nice and am wearing a dress so had better get plenty of swi! But my point is that 12 hours apart might be a good way to do your tests.

IzzyWizzyletsgetbusy · 19/11/2010 07:36

I thought pink's fertility seminar sounded really good. I agree re the lack of control, but I don't like it. If anything else is going wrong in your life, your job, your marriage, your weight, you can change it. Yet this one thing that's so important to us, you can't. I guess it takes time to get your head around that.

Woke up this morning to another fb baby announcement, that's SEVEN in the last two months, of which TWO have been this week. I think they're building up for my due date at christmas!! It is lovely to hear but just a bit...wearying...

I am trying to keep things in perspective though, I was talking about it for the first time with a friend yesterday and she told me that before she had her DS (before I knew her) she had a baby who died at a few days old Sad. I can't imagine going through that. But she did go on to have two healthy children, so in a way there's a message of hope there.

PinkFondantFancy · 19/11/2010 08:20

babe love the bears you big show off :)

Kat sorry no idea about opk but my plan for this month is to stick all my cbfm sticks on a sheet of cardboard so I can monitor the progress of the mystical 2nd line and can ignore the evil dictator when it starts telling me to panic shag a clear 12 frikking days before ov!! Gross but necessary I think!

orange post ov exercise is something I've thought about whether I should be doing or not and haven't really got a conclusion so will be interested to hear what others think. Would have thought something like horseriding might be a bad idea but no idea if eg running or aerobics is ok, or even yoga.

izz that is so sad about your friend :( definitely puts things in perspective as I have no clue how you cope with that :(

lady you sum up my musings perfectly!! I am an impatient person anyway so think I would have been stressing around now even if it hadnt been taken away from me. That

PinkFondantFancy · 19/11/2010 08:23

article is so interesting! DH and I were reading it this morning and goes to show that there's always two ways of looking at things as I looked at the graph that shows you're more likely to have a pregnancy that ends in doom than a live birth if you conceive on ov day and concluded conceiving on ov day was a bad idea but he said yes but that's also the day that gives you the highest prob of a live birth. Just another cruel aspect of this whole frikking process I guess.... Although it does provide strong evidence for the chances of an every other day scattergun approach being a good way forward. The graph of the preg hormones was super interesting-goes to show that maybe I'm not actually just imagining my complete suite of preg symptoms most months......

Ok ladies on that slightly depressing note, here's a zen thought for the day that I read in a yoga book while waiting for my acupuncture appointment last night: "Fear and fatigue both block the mind. Confront both squarely and then courage and confidence will flow into you" I found that very inspiring-I'm not very good at confronting either and this ttc mission is throwing lots of fear and fatigue in my face!!!

MummyinEngland · 19/11/2010 08:24

morning!

Orange I do first wee of the morning (at 6.30) and then again at 2pm. I got my positives on the morning wee, so looks like my wee is also on Costa Rican time, 7 hours behind Grin I agree with Kat, start out choosing whats right for you, obviously all womens bodies are different and it might take a bit of experimenting at first.

Izz seven? thats a bit rough!Sad I have now "hid" from my newsfeed anyone on FB who is preggas!Blush

good article LadyB

Wombat33 · 19/11/2010 09:53

Morning all!

Grin at "sometimes I really wish I was a rabbit"! Never thought I'd have cause to say this, but I wish I was a rabbit too Grin

Orange I also don't know about the exercise after ov thing. I've started going back to the gym and running in the last month and I don't want to let that go because it's making me feel so much better again, but then again I'm totally convinced this is my month to make a bean and I don't want to jeopardise that. Yesterday morning I had a neg OPK but just had a feeling I was going to get a positive later in the day so I did quite a hard run at lunchtime on the basis I may be taking it easy for the next few days. Sure enough, I got a positive OPK yest aft (I test with FMU and then again sometime after 2pm btw), and even stronger positive this morning. I've decided I am going to go to the gym at lunch but not run - just do less high impact stuff that doesn't bounce me around so much iyswim like bike and a bit of weights. Then I'm going to go for a gentle jog tomorrow morning before we SWI but rest afterwards. At least, that's my plan (over thinking things, moi?!?! Grin). Strangely, my MC is (currently at least) making me less careful about these things, on the basis that last time around I did absolutely everything 'right' and I lost it anyway, so this time I'm thinking what I do, given I'm not about to climb Everest or down three bottles of vodka, doesn't really make any difference, so I'm just going to carry on essentially as normal. I've read somewhere that exercise might even help a been implant as it increases blood flow to the uterus. We'll see...

Wombat33 · 19/11/2010 09:54

I meant 'bean' obviously :)

Wombat33 · 19/11/2010 10:21

Fascinating article Lady. Not sure what I take away from it though. SWI every other day from at least a week before you expect ov to a week after is what I think the message is. And even then it's normal not to conceive straight away. I knew that of course, it's just it brings it home seeing it in graphs and statistics. 1/3 of conceptions lost. That's a lot. No wonder so many people end up in our situation. That makes me feel a bit better.

HongKongBaby · 19/11/2010 11:29

Hello all - still lurking about and just wanted to pop in and say great news mummyinengland v. pleased for you.

Wombat33 · 19/11/2010 13:17

Hello HKB. Good to hear from you! Tis mighty quiet in here this afternoon. I was beginning to think I'd scared everyone off with my obsessive exercise musings!

IzzyWizzyletsgetbusy · 19/11/2010 13:28

I'm here

DCs have an inset day so they have had a choice of what to do, so far we've been to soft play and Burger King Hmm but they're now building an assault course for their go-go hamsters in the kitchen so I've got a few minutes.

wombat tbh I would carry on exercising as normal, just wouldn't take up anything new or start exercising more/harder. It's also good for stress levels remember.

mummye yes, seriously, seven people! I did start hiding them from my news list but there were so many it got tricky. And more due imminently

PinkFondantFancy · 19/11/2010 13:33

Hello girls! It's v quiet in here today! Thought I'd share with you that I had a massive fit of the giggles today in my yoga class-we were doing half moon pose against the wall and when I looked up the image of 6 people against the wall doing such a weird pose cracked me up-they all looked like squashed flies or something :)

Zen is holding up really well today even though a girl in the changing room was massively pregnant and had th most beautiful smooth rounded huge bump-usually that would send me straight to the pit of doom but today was ok! Must be the needles I got put in the crown of my head at acupuncture yesterday or something....

Wombat33 · 19/11/2010 13:58

Izzy 7 - that's a lot! Eek. Hopefully at least that will be your 'quota' for the next few months and you'll get some wuiter times ahead.

Pink Glad the accu seems to be having some effect and the zen is lasting! I really need to recapture my zen today - it deserted me in the night in a panic about stuff at work today and now I'm mumsnetting rather than actually facing the scary task so stress levels not impproving. MUST. FOCUS. Grin

Ladybee · 19/11/2010 14:22

huh! me too Wombat. I have scary scary stressful project just landed on me, and NEED to talk to my supervisor but she's not available and have a phonecall with project overseer person v soon. So mumsnetting will definitely help with all that Hmm

Wombat33 · 19/11/2010 14:50

Good luck Lady. I'm hoping the power of MN will somehow translate into magic levels of productivity! Hmm Thank god it's nearly the weekend.

nickstermum · 19/11/2010 19:03

Hello...

i am grumpy as hell.... :( luteal phase kicks in and so does my bad mood :( sat and blarted for no reason whatsoever about 5 times today! I have had to walk away from dh several times to avoid doing something drastic!! Whats that all about. Turning into a psycho :(

Bloody hideous jelly legs are back too :( had this all the way through MC/OV etc Its like i have flu and they are constantly aching! Paracetamol not touched it.

going to get DS into bed and hit the sack tomorrow. Maybe my mood will improve wiht sleep.

Hope you are all ok today, izz 7 thats just not fair lovely!

PinkFondantFancy · 19/11/2010 19:51

Hello grumpy nix glad you haven't murdered DH!! Hope you're feeling better soon-I get crazy out of control hormones too, it's like someone else has taken over my body....

Have just bitten the bullet and called my really good friend that's about 15 weeks pg to see how's she's doing. Was really lovely to hear that she's doing so well, and from the outside her pregnancy is going really fast, although I can appreciate that for her the first bit was sooo slow (she had a mmc earlier this year) I did a pretty convincing job of pretending to be relaxed about not being upduffed yet, and then once i got off the phone cried all the way home :( she got her bfp just before her due date and Im just not feeling very optimistic thats going to happen for me. The though of waiting another 20 days to ov feels like a lifetime, and then even if it does happen this time around, the thought of the wait for a 14 week scan and then a due date feels like an impossibly long time away-so far away that I can't imagine it ever happening :(

Sorry for whingy post, just finding it hard to stay positive and upbeat when it feels like an impossible uphill struggle to get there. Especially since on days like today I feel like I've made no emotional progress whatsoever over the last 5 months. Am I ever going to feel ok about this unless I have a baby?

nickstermum · 19/11/2010 20:03

fondant you need a holiday xxxx

so do i!