Charter's Anonymous: Volume 3, here's to better luck this time for us all!

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A shiny new thread girls and hopefully we shall all get merrily up-duffed with sticky beans

Just popped on to say hello to spilt - so sorry to hear you've had a hard time today. It's all totally understandable and i feel for you sweetie.

ladyG hope all goes ok for you. Keep those levels checked. See you on the thyroid thread.

I'm not charting at the moment (lazy).

My boobs seem to like to trick me every month at the moment. I think my body really responds to the progesterone in the LP and I get loads of symptoms. I was all ready to post on the thyroid thread that I was gonna be bump buddies with ladyG but alas I was wrong. BFN yesterday and AF today. Ahh well - I need to learn how to ignore my boobs!!!

spilt new to this thread, but can i just say Im so sorry for your recent loss. I hope you are bearing up, but it can be so raw xx. I mc @ 12 weeks in august and would have been due around the same time as you, but obviously lost mine a lot earlier.

(((((hugs))))

Bugger Hippy. Would have loved you to be a bump buddy! Maybe next month ?

Hi ladies, sorry you're having a crappy day spilt. I haven't been back to church yet. I wanted to go when it was empty because I know I'll be a wreck but it's only open when I'm at work.

Sorry it's not your month hippy, it would've been lovely to have another BFP on here

Lady, I agree with digi, you should quit temping now and save any unnecessary heartache. Pleased you're feeling pukey!

I got my 3 temps above the coverline but they're only 36.30 ish so not high really. If anyone has their WTF cycle on FF would you be willing to share them?

I just want to be pg again so badly

xxxx

Thanks Hippy, so sorry this hasn't been your month.

nickster so sorry you lost your baby too. Do you have any idea what happened?

Thanks Lady I've been googling about thyroids all evening. Getting a slight data overload now! Most of the sites seem to be American, they must take this more seriously.

mouse, my WTF cycle is on my homepage at the bottom here

It's weirdly similar to Ladys, very short LP in particular. Have you had your first AF or are you thinking this is ovulation before the AF? (sorry I can't remember )

I am utterly with you on the need to be pregnant again. I just feel like a limb has been cut off or something and I need it back! Occasionally I have a total panic of the "what if I can't get pregnant again" variety - obviously this is not helpful, but these horrible thoughts keep popping up. Praying it happens quickly for us.

Mouse Link [[http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/2fee7f
here]]. Think WTF cycle is second one down. Is the one with 7 day luteal phase anyway.

Hi all. Thought I would pop up and say hi to you all.
split sorry to hear you've had a hard day today.
hippy I know what you mean about your boobs getting you every month, I have been having the same thing too. I also for some reason am getting mild cramps from about 10-12 days before af every month and doesn't stop till af is gone!!
just out if interest did anyones docs tell you anything about ttc and thyroid issues? Sorry if you have already gone through this already. The reason I'm asking is that I called my doc to check I'm ok just to start ttc while on my thyroxine and she just said yeh and nothing more, I then did the stupid thing and went into google, I should be banned!!

Oh no Hippy - ssshhhhh, I'm pinning my hopes on freakishly sore huge boobies!! So sorry that you were teased this month :(

Sorry you are having a rubbish day today spilt!

mouse as I mentioned to getdown earlier my chart is v boring but if it can help in anyway here it is

Hi all

Hope we are all ok today. How are you feeling today split, hope it's a better day for you.

In a moment of madness I started googling progesterone cream in the thought that if I could give myself a little "kick" of progesterone, it may extend my LP in the post-MC cycle? Anyone done this? Or would it be crazy?

Personally I wouldn't, Getdown. As really you want your body to try and rebalance itself longer term and you might confuse it by adding extra hormones in the WTF cycle.

I did acupuncture and she got me to take Magnesium as that supports hormone rebalancing but still had a short LP taht month. Think your body almost needs that somehow given the turmoil it has been through. And then the next month was fine obviously (touch wood)

Others may have a different view though, hon. I know it's so hard when all you really want is to be pregnant again.

Thanks Lady I know deep down you are right. I am just clutching at straws really.

Ah well.

I'm glad to hear your cycle resolved after the WTF cycle. Would you be able to remind me how many weeks you were when you had your MC? (sorry, don't if it's upsetting, just wondering if because mine was early - 5 weeks - that perhaps my body will just treat it as a "normal" cycle)

Thanks Lady hope you are ok today.

Hi all

Had lots of visitors staying recently so not had much chance to MN. I hope you are all well!!

spilt I can't believe its been so long since Bobbie was born, I think you are coping fantastically overall and its normal to have rubbish days, and one day they will be outweighed by the good ones. Keep going!

Lady - stop temping NOW!! What on earth good can come from it??

Hippy sorry AF got you, fingers crossed for next month.

Getdown I hope that you get some clarity soon on your WTF cycle. And remember that Google is the best and the worst tool in the world!! You too iwish!

Welcome nickster!

Ifatfirst how many DPO are you?

Well I am CD11 today so DH and I started our SWI-ing last night, twas lovely . Haven't noticed much EWCM yet and its usually in abundance . I might use the preseed tonight, if I can get it in without spoiling the romance!! If DH and I manage to SWI every day (as promised!) then how should I check for CM and not confuse it with the swimmers??

I am very with DH as he is not drinking this week to support our TTC-ing as well and that is a big ask for him!! (well except Thursday as he has a team night out but as he hardly ever goes out then thats fine by me)

Oh, sorry that was so long!!

Think I was 7 and a half weeks, Getdown. It may take you less time to get back to normal. I found I ovved about a week after I would normally expect, but got AF about a week early. So actually had a "normal" cycle length!

Terrys is a tricky job. But if you are doing it EVERY DAY then it won't matter! EWCM is stretchier than semen and if you put it in a glass of water kind of balls together and you can actually fish it back out and will still be stretchy. Semen will dissipate a bit more.

But really I find it hard to tell. Record as EW or Watery if in doubt and just make a note that you couldmn't tell very easily. Are you persevering with the OPK's or giving up this month?

Afternoon all. Really down today, though being sorry for myself won't change anything and I really should pull myself together as some of you on here have been through so much more than I.

Temps dropped again this morning :( No sign of AF and it's doing my head in.
I could understand if we'd tried and AF then arrived as normal. I'd be disappointed but think there's next month.
But now my temp has dropped, I'm on CD36 after almost two years of 28-32 day cycles (What is going on?!!)
I have no idea what DPO I'm on really.

What do you all use on ff? Advanced, FAM or Research? I was using Advanced but it became clear that it was confused with my slow rises (eg this month on Advanced it says I ov on CD25 but I had dry CM by then.). FAM says I haven't ovulated yet and Research is the only one to show solid lines on CD 22, and that's when I felt ov pain.
But if I did ov CD 22, i am now on LP of 14.

I think I need help. I have changed my chart to remove the cross hairs. Can I get some feedback on when you think I ov?

And I've looked in TCOYF and it says nothing about fluctuating LPs. My phases have gone from 10-14 days, is this possible or does it indicate a problem?

Sorry for long post. i am now truly fed up and just want to know one way or the other. I got a BFN last night.
Why does my body decide to go haywire once TTC??!!

chart here

Thanks all.

That is really gross LadyG!!

I did my first OPK - what I call my *LadyG batch - today but it was -ve. Will do 2 a day from now on at 12/1pm and 7/8pm.

BTW - does anyone here drink Berocca? I have started drinking it and it makes my pee turn bright yellow!! Very odd for PIAC (peeing in a cup!)

LadyG we'll see about every day, best laid plans and all!

MrsA don't give up yet! I think you OV-ed on CD22-24 so if it was 24 then you could just be on 12DPO and a PG test in the evening might not work?!? I am keeping my fingers crossed for you.

It could be any day between cd22 and cd25, MrsA. Is always harder to tell with a slow rise. Have you been doing anything to change your LP? Supplements, treatments anything like taht? Good news is taht it is moving in the right direction - a lot of ladies would kill for a 14 days LP.

I hope your temps pop back up and you get a BFP or that you just know one way or the otehr soon.

Terrys... TCOYF mentions kergels for distinguishing between swimmers and ewcm... (i dont have a clue what they are but the description is pelvic floor exercises!) Try that...? Might help to keep the swimmers in also when you stand up IYSWIM?

Water... oh how lovely

But then I read that kegels get rid of the swimmers. How to win?!!?

Theory is after 20-30 mins of lying down all the ones that are any cop will have swum safely through. The rest are duds and you can just squeeze then out. I've never risked it though!

Thanks for the comments. I have started acupuncture but only have my first appt on Thurs and it's only Monday now! Can't believe that would cause it to lengthen. If it does, is it better to have a long LP phase then?
I ov late, so a long LP means i'd be lucky to get 10 cycles a year.
Like you said LadyG, I'd rather know either way now - it's the not knowing that's the upsetting thing for me.
(Hopeing you're feeling nice and queay btw :))

And, stupid (& TMI) qn of the day - I know what kegels are but i also assumed they were the same muscles used in orgasm. So....erm....when DP and I are SWI, I also clench them to enhance the experience . Does this mean i'm pushing the sperm away and I should do nothing whilst he 'deposits'? I always thought it pulled the penis and sperm further in?
I clearly know nothing.

It would be useful to know, as I got confused between EWCM and preseed the morning after SWI.

No AF yet but making mental plans for next month already, involving lots of alcohol.

"only have my first appt"
Sorry that should read had