Just MC and ready to try again? Pack your cake, wine and tightie whities and join us for more ranting, weeping and most of all, laughing. All welcome (Part 6)

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A lovely place for those either lurking, waiting, WTFing or SWI after MCing...

...with optional fish slapping

Mummyabroad - fab news from your appointment, that must be a weight off your mind! Please don't feel bad about the fb status thing - nothing you could have foreseen and no one else will think any less of you. In our case, we had had a good 13-week scan and so felt OK to tell everyone and everything still went wrong - you just can't predict these things.

YRMOTB - sorry AF got you, but good news that your cycle seems to be getting better, maybe the next one will be your turn x

(((((Hugs))))) to LadyBee and Nicks (hope you're feeling better?) and Purple and PFF and wombat and anyone else feeling low today. Agree re the scans - I always used to see them as a bit of a "treat" but will be absolutely dreading thhem if there ever is a next time. Even though MW had not been able to find hb at 16-wk check, I still wasn't really expecting bad news (god I feel stupid about that now!), not until the sonographer didn't turn the screen straight back round to me. And dh wasn't looking at me at all, just staring at the screen and I knew something must be wrong. Then she just said "I'm really sorry, there's no heartbeat". I did ask to see (otherwise I simply would not have been able to believe it) and it was so wrong to see him lying so still when just 3 weeks earlier we had seen such a lively and healthy-looking baby

God, sorry about mopiness!! Onwards and upwards, everyone.

izz you are not crazy! Or obsessed! we are just normal frustrated women!!!

MA fantabulous news xxx

Hello!

I am up for a bit of facebook action too. I have never used the private message thingy on MN before so forgive me if it takes a while to learn how.

Izzy - I hate your doctor she is horrid. Even if she sugar coated it she still said "I am not going to help you" and since when do we know more about short LP than trained doctors? Outrageous! I think she needs to read the cut-out-and-give-to-the-doctor-bit at the back of TCOYF so she can learn something about fertility!! Yes, we all know stress can affect fertility (ovulation), but not LP's, these should be consistent for every woman and should be at least 10 days long, if not its a problem that needs addressing.

I think persuing other options is a great idea. I have heard very good things about acupunture (want to try it myself!) Is going private an option? How about a bit of medical tourism? Countries like Costa Rica and closer to home Turkey, offer cheap private medical services and can even design it around a nice holiday. (that'll cure your stress problem too!) Also, have read on the recurrent buns thread about a couple of women who got turned away by GP's but went back and got a locum who took pity and wrote them the referral they needed, worth trying?

I have just received a copy of Miscarriage - What every woman needs to know. Its by Lesley Regan a specialist who works at the recurrent miscarriage clinic at St Mary's Hospital London. Looks really good, will give my review when I have finished it.

big hugs for everyone who needs one today!!

Izzy awww hon, sorry you got 'bounced out' the surgery door!! I hope the acupuncture works, really tempted to try it myself, I did have great success with acupuncture for a previous medical condition so might be worth a shot.
Have added you on FB...another pretty lady Turns out we're a good looking bunch

Wombat I too dread any future scans after unceremoniously being told that 'the sac is empty'... I know 1st year medical students that break bad news in a better way!!!

Waves to all x

hairy i have an answer on the spots!!!!! HURRAH! thought i would share it with you :)

Went to docs today. Apparently i havent got BV (a self diagnosis off googling the abs!!! ) i have had a staf infection internally which a) shouldnt be a cause of MC, and b) causes skin conditions so he has given me some gel stuff to try anfd get shot of the crap all over my face :) Heres hoping!! Do also thinks i wont need more abs, but wants to do another swab just in case, but wont prescribe abs anyway for me as on 2WW!!

PS also sorry forgot to add... dont have tonsil probs its an inch long ulcer on my throat triggered by the abs! :) quite pleased really x

Catch up later properly xx

Yes i am too... bookface that is!

Hello lovelies :)

Nicks hoorah - everything fixed in one go :)

MummyA that's fantastic news on the scan, am so pleased for you - perhaps now things will all start to go right again with that weight off your mind.

You people who haven't tested yet - if you do get bfps I'm going to miss them as going to Spain for a week tomorrow morning - so fingers crossed for you & I shall be looking you up when I return hoping for good news!

Hi everybody

feeling crap today. Just read through the last 24 hours and my head is spinning. Will pop back and comment personally later on.

def. on for a bit of fb action too

owls have a wonderful jolly holiday xxx

Hello ladies just popping in to say I'm five plus six and scan showed pregnancy sac and yolk sac in right place but we didn't see a heartbeat today ( hopefully it's just too early) and I am to be re sacanned on 22nd!

hairy good news re sac etc in right place. Try not to worry re heartbeat, 5+6 is very early. NHS hospital wouldn't scan me before 6.5 weeks, and Bupa wouldn't do before 7.5 weeks because they said they wouldn't be able to pick everything up. So I think that's fairly normal.

Will keep my fingers crossed for you for 22nd xx

owlie have a good break!

Any news anyone - applebloss ? velvet ? BrownB ?

Will try and pop back later, but darling (!) husband 'forgot' to buy me an hpt on his way home so no testing for me just yet...at least it means I can still pretend it'll be positive for another evening though!
And i'm up for some fb action too... :)

Hello ladies, I wonder if I could join? I miscarried our much wanted DC2 at 11 weeks on Sunday/Monday so am not ready to ttc yet as am still in shock I think. I was wondering if there's a definitive answer to whether I need to have a period or not before trying again? I just want to be pg again.

This baby was 12 months in the making as I have v irregular cycles linked to PCOS so I'm terrified this could take just as long

I used to be theteasonme if any of you remember me x

Hi Mouse sorry you are finding yourself on here :( Its pretty rubbish. Thankfully it does seem to get easier... with time x

The official line i got from my EPU and GP is that you should wait one cycle. Having said that they both said to me that there was no medical reason why you shouldnt TTC immediately. The only reason they ask that is so they can date the pregnancy should you conceive. ... i TTC immediately after bleed stopped... i hadnt ov, and it was mentally painful too soon,,, and physically a bit grim but thats not to say it will be for you. I am now in the first proper cycle post MC and actively trying, GP is aware and its not a problem. Having said that i MC naturally. I think EPRC is longer.

hairy fab news... echoing Izz its probably too early!

apples TEST TEST TEST !!! Oooh dont keep us in suspenders!

I do believe i got it all wrong this month :( been having on off OV symptoms now for 5 days!! oh well.... will have to wait a month til next time :(

Izz do bupa scan you? Have not thought of tucking into PMHC... but if the capfits..?

now i know zit-brigade is not caused by dairy milk i can eat much more! YUM

Hi Mouse - I am so sorry especially after having tried so long - Big hugs. I am in the WTF cycle and whilst not actively trying to conceive we aren't not trying. I am pretty much in the dark about all of this other than the very lovely ladies here and pregnancyloss.co.uk which has the clearest guidance. Actually nickster what is the deal between ERPC versus natural ... why would you need to wait longer ... chance of infection after an op?

apple FORGOT the hpt!!!!!!

AR i think its something to do with the lining. In the event of EPRC i think it takes longer for the lining to regrow - although not sure MA will be able to tell you more. It was on an article she posted earlier in the thread. Other than that, the only other thing i keep being told is that it takes longer for your body to recover after EPRC although i dont know whether thats true or not!

Hello,

Looks like my timing is good, I'm half way through that miscarriage book (Lesley Reagan, tis very very good) and she has just said that the time it takes for cycles to resume depends much more on how many weeks the baby grew to, rather than which method you had. Makes a lot of sense to me.

I think the "longer after ERPC" thing comes from the baby loss site.

mousebacon this page about recovery times is very good, and when to start trying again is here.

I'm sorry for your loss (just read about it on the other thread) glad that you have found us over here, and hope you get all the support you need xxx

Lovely to "meet" you all on facebook ladies! I am too shy to write on your walls though , plus its very confusing seeing your real names. I keep forgetting who is who!

Hairy Thats really encouraging news, I am glad they are not making you wait too long till the next one (although it probably feels like a lifetime for you!) I agree with Izz it all sounds normal for such an early scan. xxx

Hello ladies! Not a great day, been feeling very emotional for no reason so lots of time spent having a little cry in the bogs but feeling much better now.

Thanks for providing Sven a&r!
apple have you peed yet??! Neeed to know!!
YRMOTB sorry about AF yay for more regular cycles
mamapower hope you have a fab weekend, where are you off to? I'm keen for bookcase too, I'll message you when I figure out how!
velvet eeek good luck for testing, v excited for you
wombat big big hugs, I cried when I read about your scan :( :( why on earth do they make you buy a token first?? That is just cruel, there must be so many couples that have experienced the exact same :(

izzy sorry about your scan too, that must have been v hard for you :( you need to make a fuss about fc though, you clearly know more than she does. Can you afford private? Or as mummya says, a trip to costs rica? It sucks that we dont really get any kind of service in return for our tax. Totally sympathise with the crying if people are sympathic, I am v bad at that, reduces me to a bubbering wreck instantly and then I feel like a total nob afterward for being so busy crying that I couldn't put my point across properly. Good plan with acupuncture, fingers crossed it works a treat.

nicks great news about finding out how to fix spots, fingers crossed works a treat and swab comes back clear

owly have great holiday!!

hairy great news! Try not to stress, it sounds early to pick up a heartbeat.

Hi mouse sorry you found yourself here, I'm sorry for your loss :(

Night all have a lovely weekend xx

Apologies for the v random spellings! Am on my phone!!

pinks I'm putting Sven on double time. Loo time is sometimes essential. I hope your cycle sorts itself out.

wombat we have one of those scan tokens. I feel sick whenever I think about it.

My sister used acupuncture whilst TTC and swears by it. She also used Chinese herbs, removed all soy from her diet and did meditation - also did temps etc. Hard to say what the clincher was but I think it is all worth trying.

Heard a wierd one today. A pregnant friend ended up in A&E with a gall stone. It took them ages to diagnose it. From all accounts it is quite common in pregnancy due to raised progesterone levels ... just one to know once bfp.

apples and velvet it's not fair to keep us all in suspense like this!! :-D Have you tested yet?? If not, why not??!?!?!?!?! do it do it do it do it do it do it!

I've spammed a few of you about facebook - hopefully some of you have got names that are easier to find on FB than me!! Sorry if I missed anyone off, please message me if you want to meet up on FB and I didn't message you.

PFF I was just thinking the same thing!! I came here expecting at least one piece of news!

My suspenders are on as well!!

Why hasn't anyone POAS yet?!!!! Or if they have, where are they?!!!

mouse I'm so sorry you're here . Fx that your stay with us won't be too long x