Just MC and ready to try again? Pack your cake, wine and tightie whities and join us for more ranting, weeping and most of all, laughing. All welcome (Part 6)

[KnitterNotTwitter]

A lovely place for those either lurking, waiting, WTFing or SWI after MCing...

...with optional fish slapping

Nix I wanted to have a natural birth, like DC1, but Costa Rica is very doctor centric, (midwives dont exists and home birth is illegal) Everyone assumes you just want a ceasarian (if you pay a bit extra you get one), so I started seeing a midwife. She is foreign too and has 30 years of experience at doing homebirths, but she was also quite bossy. She went on and on about not doing a scan and gave me some papers to read. They were semi convincing (says they are bad for baby) so I did some research myself on the internet and found some studies that are quite convincing. Also doctors here are scan mad, with DC1 I had one every month sometimes more. The trouble is the arguements only work if you are getting really good care instead of a scan and she frankly was negligent in that she didnt measure fundal height or use a doppler. Anyway, I have since totally changed my mind about scans. I want hundreds of them!! because if the mum is all stressed out not knowing what is going on inside, then that is no good for the baby either right?

Anyway the long and short is that if I had had a scan I would have known sooner that I had a mmc, but events probably would have unfolded in exactly the same way after that so it makes no difference. Just wish I hadnt been so smug about it on Facebook.

By the way I have had lots of supportive comments on my status including one from a friend telling me about a mc I didnt she had had.

sorry forgot to say Thanks to owl for making me feel all brave. xxxxx

MA at the time you make the decisions that feel right for you and your baby. I for one will be terrified at the next scan.... to hear those words when i said "theres nothing there is there?" to be answered with a whispered "No, Im so sorry" which will haunt me, but equally you need the scans to tell you everything is ok.

Forget about FB xx Your true friends wont care, they will just want to support you x

Apples I really hope that the OPK is giving you an accurate reading. I'm feeling good about it if that means anything at all . Oh, and please hon, don't feel stupid about not knowing anything was up. I had a blighted ovum for my 1st MC this year - absolutely not a clue, had symptoms. My point of view is that my body did absolutely what it was supposed to do - try to sustain a pregnancy for as long as possible, until it can't any longer.

I didn't tell my mum about our second MC this year. I just couldn't. I know it would have made her worry that there was something 'wrong' with me and there wouldn't have been anything I could say until testing was done and at that point there was no indication that testing would be possible until after a 3rd consecutive one.
I guess I might discuss the results of my tests with her once I know what they say. She's all the way on the other side of the world from me but we skype regularly. I think she knew something was up, especially when I was really upset that she & dad wouldn't coming to visit at all this year. I know they want to come out for the birth of our planned 2nd, but it makes me really sad to think that our DS is missing out on seeing them because of our MC difficulties.

Oh dear...now I'm blue.
Actually, I've been feeling down all day...

I did a stupid thing. While I was doing my chart I took up the 'what if I got pg this month' question...and my immediate response was to check out what the date would be at around 8weeks to see whether I should book time off in order to cope with the inevitable feared MC#3. Guess when it would fall...due date of pg1. Crap.

Anyway...more importantly where is my DH?? I had v big twinges today so am now wondering whether I hadn't ovulated yet, but now have and should be doing something about it. That would mean I was ovulating on the 4th day after a peak though . Mind you, that's what FertilityFriend said about my last pg cycle - peak on day 13, ff indicated ovulation on day 17. I wonder if that's possible or I just have a really slow build in progesterone after ovulation (it's the progesteron that causes the temperature rise, right?)

Sorry for self obsession. Will be back to more caring/sharing service tomorrow.

BEE sorry you are feeling blue. xx My mum was brilliant with me, when i mc. She was here during the heavy blood loss and was so supportive. DH was away that night, and without her there to help me and DS it would have been impossible. GAH... pants about the due date pg 1 and 8 weeks. All being well you will get your bfp and you wont get another MC. xxx You know what bee that is a great way to think of it... my blighted ovum too.... that our bodies whilst they hung on to them, they thought what they were doing was right.... even tho i cruelly starved mine afterwards for what it had done

My OV am unsure about.... spotted 12 and 13, thought i ov on 15 as high cervix bit of ew and very twitchy then ew this morning - bizarre! Similar to you bee, maybe? Who the hell knows. managed swi day 15 only so if OV day 18 then prob wont survive that long!!

Evening all!

Awww hugs nickx you sound like you?re having a hard time of it all at the moment :-( I have painful flashbacks of my scan too, and can?t help but feel v.v. sad when I think about how having my first pregnancy scan should have been one of the most exciting moments of my life, and from now on they are going to be nothing but sheer terror. LOL at your cervix comment I hope you?re safely back at home with DH now-is he fixed now??

choccy sorry RTD arrived :-( Well done on the two days of not concentrating on ttc ? I frankly struggle with not thinking about it for 2 minutes at a time. Are you feeling a bit better now hun?

YRMOTB :-( at the BFN, like you say though, there?s still everything to play for while auntie is staying away.

apple I agree with mamap, you?re not being silly at all, we all think exactly the same thing every month!

wombatand owl I can understand about you not wanting to tell your mum. I was forced to tell her, as I?d seen her the weekend before and spent the weekend puking violently and had to explain I was pg so she wouldn?t worry. She was soooo excited (first grandchild) and the thought of that now makes me so sad :-( I also feel guilty because I leant very heavily on her in those first few weeks and she must have been so sad for herself too. wombat your FB message is beautiful. I?m so sorry to hear about what a terrible time you?ve been having of it :-( You sound very brave and strong, thank you for sharing it with us.

ladybee huge hugs for you toots, sorry you are having such a shite day today ? hopefully tomorrow will be better for you

izzy good luck at GP tomorrow, hope they?re helpful for once!

mummya you should go easier on yourself, there?s no reason why you wouldn?t have expected to make it to 20 weeks. Good luck for your appointment today!

I put an awareness status on Facebook but I made it generic enough so I think that those that don?t know wouldn?t know it had happened to me if you see what I mean. I only got one message back from an ex-colleague who was very sweet so all in all, glad I did it.

Hello to lady , teacake, AandR, mamap and everyone else I've missed, hope you?re all having a nice chilled out evening. Dachs you still around here anywhere? Hope you?re ok.

Hey fondant no am fine really, had a few wobbles and need a physical boost but other than work running me ragged - tickety boo. fondant your mum will prob have been more sad for you rather than for herself, dont feel guilty xxx

RIGHT - have posted babyloss passage on FB! ummed and ahh'd for ages... made it general,,,, and now i feel liberated! Why should we have to hide it...I have been hiding from facebook ! well maybe now i wont now where is that peroni!?

Aaarghgh! Just penned huge post and internet stopped working and lost the lot. In a nutshell i said thanks for all your wishes, that I have for the first time today allowed myself to believe this may actually happen and am trying to enjoy it while i can.

Then I said hello to purple and apologised for not reading her post yesterday. Agreed with points made well by Wombat and mummyA and mused on how emotionally unstable I was after my first loss in Dec - despite being consumed by wanting to be pregnant again. Then felt like a hypocrite for saying all that and getting pregnant 3 weeks after an ERPC this time....

Afterwards I got excited for PFF, Apples and Velvet and wished MummyA well on her milestone day, while sympathising with Nick as I had a similar public meltdown at work. I then agreed with the pre-seed tip as I used it for both of my last BFPs. Then I commiserated with Kat, Izzy and Choccy for the arrival of RTD and with Bee for her cycle behaving badly. Followed by getting a bit weepy at Wombat's story and thinking how very brave she, Owl, MummyA, Bee and all of us, are.

I think that was about it really and if this crashes again I will greet!

cariboo great to hear you are very possibly starting to relax maybe enjoying little bean doing well :)

Has anyone heard from hairy?

caribou beautifully summarised. I too was weepy with wombat and was thinking what wonderfully strong woman we are! My Mum has been completely brilliant and I couldn't keep anything from her if I tried - never have been able to- very inconvenient as a teenager - my Dad on the otherhand I would find difficult if I had to tell him of another one as he happily blamed it all on me being a working Mum and told me that they used to put down cows on his farm who couldn't hold a baby- it is funny how despite having the majority of my friends and family have been absolutely wonderful it is the horrible comments which stick.
MummyA don't beat yourself up on fb status I told the local butcher and I am dreading the day he mentions how well I am carrying or something similar as I just can't bring myself to tell him - nit the sort of thing you just slip in - I'll have sausages and btw I lost a baby!

What did we do before google?

Hi everyone,
Glad to hear your pregnant Caribou, although you make it tempting as you got pregnant soon after your MC. I am still battling with myself with this one.. Although I have found a few condoms, so should probably use them when/if we get around to it.

I am not actually struggling with other peoples pregnancies, (ATM!) as I think that I have no idea what they may have gone through to be carrying that baby, and I think any life is a blessing especially now.

I understand the scan upset, I was sad after mine when she said, 'well you knew you had miscarried anyway'. :(

I cannot begin to imagine what it must be like to have it happen again, it is scaring me badly that I could become a recurrent miscarrier.

I have put that post on Facebook, I think it easier to out myself that way, and if one person reads it and perhaps feels better for it, then great!

I am trying to get a grasp of who everyone is and hope to be more aware soon.
This is such a bloody miserable thing to happen, I am glad that I have people that understand around though, so thank you all for that :)

Also sorry for self centred post, I cannot contribute too much atm as I have never done the nitty gritty of conception before so I am only just grasping some of these things. Would it be wise to start charting and things after my WTF cycle? I usually have a 26days cycle, I guess that might change now though?

I hope everyone is well :)

most probably in the TMI category but is Pre-seed of any use if you don't have a dryness issue?
Thanks MamaP found the cervix thread - need to find nail clippers!
I finally found the courage to POAS today. It was bfn thankfully. I don't think I could have coped with a BFP being a bad thing - strange enough to be happy with a bfn.
Nickster how rude of your buds to play up - I highly recommend spirulina and agnus c to boost you up (with ac possibly having added ttc benefits!) Funny how it just hits you every now and then.

Sorry for the x-post purple. Good work on the facebook post. I am still battling with myself over it.
I am not much help on the charting side as I haven't been there myself yet but I am sure someone much more helpful will be by shortly. On the cycle side I know my cycle has changed after each pregnancy (only by a day or so though for me) and I have been told it is the same for an mc. If it is a bit haywire I'll start charting. I was incredibly regular before hence no need to previously!

Hey Purplebuns, if you are thinking about throwing your lot in with all of us obsessive compulsive conception seekers professionals why not start by reading Taking Charge of Your Fertility by Toni Weschler. Its really comprehensive, I got a second hand copy and have learned enormous amounts about my body that I was completely unaware of for all my 35 years. I thoroughly recommend it.

Apple - I'm feeling the same as you!! What shall we do????

Hi All,

I have had good news from the lung specialist. The lump on my lung is not a blood clot (and therefore not mc related) and has all the characteristics of benign (harmless) tissue. The only slightly worrying thing is that I feel pain in my back in that general area, so the doc wants to try and rule out a connection before completely giving me the all clear. I am all for the plan as it involves antiinflamatories and lots of massages!
Anyway I am hugely relieved and I feel like this might be the start in a new chapter of good luck coming my way.

Caribou, so glad you are letting yourself enjoy pregnancy. I have just decided that defensively expecting the worst has its advantages but I am going to stop doing that because it isnt really the way I want to live my life! Give your bump to be a little rub from me xxxx

AandR no, sausage talk and fertility issues definitely dont mix. Lets hope he notices lack of belly growth and politely keeps quiet. Did you find the study on lubricants? Very interesting. My conculsion was that if you have enough of your own girl juice, then that is probably better because it contains nutrients that actually feeds the little blighters so they can live longer (up to 5 days). Pre seed does no harm, but it doesnt have that advantage.. on the other hand...if you are timing SWI to perfection and there is a waiting egg then a bit of extra slippery swimming juice will help them whizz up there faster maybe?

Velvet and Apple - you have my sympathies, you girls really are at the nail biting end of the 2WW, arent you? >

oh thanks for the Tetley add too, loved it!!

and seeing as Friday...

Morning all! I've updated the list because my stats were a little bit off. I am slowly going insane over here - am on CD 33 of what has been a 28 day cycle for the last 2 months since the WTF cycle, still no AF, still a BFN (using first response which are currently on 2 for 1 at Boots) aghghghghghghg the uncertainty is driving me crazy. Also, I am a complete temping novice having only starting temping this month, but the first half of my cycle I was around 35.6 degrees, and I've been around 36.4 for ages now. My new plan is to not test now until this time next week, and if still nothing, see the Dr the following week, what do you reckon?

apples velvet my new cycle buddies, have everything crossed for you!

Thanks for mojitos mummya, it may be slightly wrong to indulge at 6:50 am but what the hell :-) Fab news on the lung specialist! Fingers crossed this is the start of a new chapter for you now.

purple I know exactly how you feel and I struggled with the worry that this is the start of something recurrent too, but I think now that the only way unfortunately to find that out is to be brave and risk it, and then if it does happen again, raise hell until you get tested properly.

caribou brill to hear from you, v. v. happy for you :-)

Have fab day ladies mwah mwah

Fridays List

StarflowerGirl TTC#1 cycle 2 UCL 28 CD56 BFP
Pinkie08 TTC#3 cycle 2 UCL 28 CD60
Lottiecrump UCL 27/28 CD54
cheepz TTC#2 cycle 2 (round 4) UCL28 CD51
Littlemiss72 TTC#1 cycle 1 (post MC#2) UCL 28 CD 50
digitalgirl TTC#2 Cycle 3 UCL41 CD39 BFP
barrenbrook TTC#1 cycle 4 (post MC#3) UCL 28 CD35 BFP
pinkfondantfancy TTC#1, cycle 2, UCL 28 CD33
youremindmeofthebabe TTC#2, Cycle 2 UCL31-38 CD33
velvetcu TTC #1 Cycle 2 UCL 30, CD32
Appleblossoms TTC#2 cycle 3 UCL 34 CD 31
BrownB TTC#1 Cycle 15 (post MC#1) UCL 24-26 CD 29
Loola2shu TTC#3 Cycle 2 (post nmc#1) ucl??? (PCOS) CD25
Jamface TTC#2 cycle 3 (post MC#2), UCL 27 - 40 CD21
Freezingmyarseoff TTC#2 cycle 3 UCL28 CD20
Nickstermum TTC#2 cycle 1 post MC UCL 30-40 CD19
LadyBee TTC#2, cycle 2 (round 3) UCL27 CD18
KnitterNotTwitter TTC#2, (round 3) cycle 2 UCL 30 CD15
PrettyVacant1 TTC#1 Cycle 5(round 7)UCL 28-30 CD13
sunchild77 TTC#3 cycle 4, UCL 24-28, CD14
DachshundsRule TTC#1 cycle 2 UCL28 CD13
getawiggleon TTC#2, MC#1, UCL28, CD11
Tigger15 TTC#2 cycle 19 UCL24-9 CD5
MamaPower TTC#1, cycle 4 (post MC#2) UCL 25- 27 CD5
kat2504, TTC#1, cycle 2 UCL 26, CD4
choccybick TTC#1 (post mc1) cycle 2 UCL 27 CD3
IzzyWizzyletsgetbusy TTC#3 cycle 3 UCL26-28 CD3
Wombat33 TTC#1 Cycle 1 (post MC) UCL 31 CD3

WTTC

Sillyness TTC#1 post MC1 WTF cycle
Jollster TTC #2, MC3 conf 16th Aug
BackOnceAgain TTC#3, MC 17th Aug
Shitforbrains TTC#3, MC 1st Sep
Sarahmia TTC#2, MC2
MummyAbroad TTC #2,(MMC#1 31 Mar, ERPC 7 Jul)
Tunnocksteacake
Urbanlolly

MIA
pippaandpolly
Honeywitch TTC#1
Curlylox TTC#3
delilahbelle TTC#1

RECENT GRADUATES
BUnderthebonnet BFP 20 June
Muser BFP 22 June
northerngoldilocks - BFP 12 July
Magic8ballhastheanswers BFP 14 July
Hopefully BFP 22 July
IvySedai BFP 1 August
PenguinsMummy BFP 15th August
batteryhen BFP 18 August
VivClicquot BFP 25 August
Loopymumsy BFP 29 August
CaribouMoo BFP
hairytriangle BFP 21 Sep

Arsecrackerdoos, was just casually (who am i kidding???) looking over my temps for this month and turns out temp didn't peak until cd24. Now I am no fertility temping expert but this seems to me that if I've got a normal lp then earliest af would be due is tomorrow anyway so I have been testing waaaay too early. Next q though, WTF has happened to my 28 day cycle?!?!?! Mil reckons it's screwed because I'm so focussed on it but if that's true, my body is just evil!! Stress leads to late period leads to stress leads to late period etc etc gggggaaaaaahhhhhhh.

Sorry for mememe, just needed to vent otherwise will end up ranting at some poor unsuspecting colleague who definitely won't understand what I'm on about!!

fantastic news re lung specialist - enjoy the massages.

pff messy cycles suck - what a rollercoaster ride to be on. Big hugs. Hopefully it resolves itself shortly preferably with a bfp. Ignore MiL - how can anyone not stress - I can't believe our bodies are so delicate they can't cope with a bit of obsessing concentrated effort. Maybe nick some of MummyAs massages.

Morning All... thanks for your lovely support. Feeling rotten this morning, completely unrelated to anything which may or may not be going on....have caught ds's stomach bug

MummyA to answer your questions... 1) first test was almost as dark as control line, the others have all been darker than control, including the one this morning.. 2) they are only amazon cheapies... 3)DH is going to pick one up on his way home this afternoon.....so will test properly tonight, eek!!!!!!!!!

lovelyladybee huge hugs for you my dear. That would be rubbish about due date, but maybe if you do fall this cycle you can request a 7 or 9 week scan instead? Bless you for everything you're going through. Hope you're feeling a bit more positive today. and thanks for your positive feelings for me.....let's see what the result is this evening!

nicks you never know, those little swimmers can be quite determined when they want to be...isn't it up to 5/7 days they can survive?? and it just takes the one..

izzy hope the GP gives you some useful info, really seems so hit and miss whether they're any good doesn't it. My GP is lovely and really good, and highly amusing as he has the dryest sense of humour....some patients really don't like him, but I do!

nicks are you feeling any better today? Hope DH is looking after you and helping you rest...

AandR did your dad really say that?? [shocked] was he being serious?! That must've been tough to hear, really not what you needed.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who felt dupped by their body...and in a sad way it's nice to hear all your stories. Makes me feel not so alone, and it really is good to hear what everyone's been through...we really can all empathise with each other. And it makes me realise in the scheme of things I haven't had it that bad. My SIL had an early mc just before I found out I was pregnant, and then had a double ectopic that almost ruptured a month after my ERPC, so I keep trying to remind myself that actually things aren't all that bad for me...I too am terrified of going in for a scan at any point now... Just the thought of that scan, going in so happy and coming out so completely devasted just makes me so sad.

Feel like I should congratulate MA, PFF, nicks, purple and anyone else for 'outing' yourselves on facebook, at whatever level. I haven't, but did recently tell a friend that I haven't seen in ages and it was good to be able to tell her. It just felt wrong to call her up to tell her I'd lost a baby, but eventually she called me and we got to talking and it felt good to share it. On the mum front, I'm with AandR, I wouldn't have been able to get through mine without my mum. She was the first person I told, sobbed down the phone to her. and she and my dad came and looked after DS whilst I was in hosp for the ERPC. She is my lifeline, we are very close...I call her at least once a day! wombat big hugs for what you've been through. That must've been so tough, and how selfless of you to put your mum first when you were going through such a tough time. Think your family deserve a huge turn around in fortunes, here's to lots of positive news very soon. and mummya I think before you experience it you have no reason to not assume you're safe once you get to 12 weeks, so stop beating yourself up lovely! I have friends who announced on fb at 12 weeks before their scans and all was well...

Velvet have you tested yet??? DH was bugging me all last night after I showed him the opks, so I promised I'd do a proper HPT tonight... I am SOOO scared though. Just feel like if it's BFN I'll feel so stupid for thinking I knew what was going on and getting it wrong, again...but if it's BFP I honestly think I'll cry as I'm so scared of going through it all again... oh I wish it was a week ago where there's nothing you can do just sit and wait.....

MummyA HUUUUUUUUUGE relief about your lung results, hurray! Finally a piece of good news...and to have to have massages etc., you poor poor thing!

PFF hurray for mixing up your ov, now you can join us feeling all nervous and trying to second guess what's happening. I know it's sucky really, but it does renew the hope that there's a more exciting reason for a delayed AF than just stress.... fx for you.

Dachs lovely lady hope you're doing okay? When does IVF start happening? Forgive me for being clueless about these things...do you have to start taking drugs and the like? Thinking of you sweetie.

Big hellos to PV, choccy, kat, mamap, tigger, jam, YRMOTB, teacakes and everyone

woah! now that was a massive post!

pink catch up properly with all u chattermonsters in a min... PInK could be your cycles just on a blip. When i was ttc before MC each month my cycle got longer and longer from normal 30-32 day and at the end of the 7 months my cycles were 40 days and i was stressed out of my box! I am a firm believer that it can effect it, MA would perhaps disagree with me i think, but having experienced it - i would say it can have an effect. MA any sign of the old bitch yet?!

hello all. RTD got me this morning, so I am dumping myself uncerimonously down at the bottom of the list. However I am quite glad because it is only day 33! perhaps my cycle is nearly back to pre MC 32 ish.StarflowerGirl TTC#1 cycle 2 UCL 28 CD56 BFP
Pinkie08 TTC#3 cycle 2 UCL 28 CD60
Lottiecrump UCL 27/28 CD54
cheepz TTC#2 cycle 2 (round 4) UCL28 CD51
Littlemiss72 TTC#1 cycle 1 (post MC#2) UCL 28 CD 50
digitalgirl TTC#2 Cycle 3 UCL41 CD39 BFP
barrenbrook TTC#1 cycle 4 (post MC#3) UCL 28 CD35 BFP
pinkfondantfancy TTC#1, cycle 2, UCL 28 CD33
velvetcu TTC #1 Cycle 2 UCL 30, CD32
Appleblossoms TTC#2 cycle 3 UCL 34 CD 31
BrownB TTC#1 Cycle 15 (post MC#1) UCL 24-26 CD 29
Loola2shu TTC#3 Cycle 2 (post nmc#1) ucl??? (PCOS) CD25
Jamface TTC#2 cycle 3 (post MC#2), UCL 27 - 40 CD21
Freezingmyarseoff TTC#2 cycle 3 UCL28 CD20
Nickstermum TTC#2 cycle 1 post MC UCL 30-40 CD19
LadyBee TTC#2, cycle 2 (round 3) UCL27 CD18
KnitterNotTwitter TTC#2, (round 3) cycle 2 UCL 30 CD15
PrettyVacant1 TTC#1 Cycle 5(round 7)UCL 28-30 CD13
sunchild77 TTC#3 cycle 4, UCL 24-28, CD14
DachshundsRule TTC#1 cycle 2 UCL28 CD13
getawiggleon TTC#2, MC#1, UCL28, CD11
Tigger15 TTC#2 cycle 19 UCL24-9 CD5
MamaPower TTC#1, cycle 4 (post MC#2) UCL 25- 27 CD5
kat2504, TTC#1, cycle 2 UCL 26, CD4
choccybick TTC#1 (post mc1) cycle 2 UCL 27 CD3
IzzyWizzyletsgetbusy TTC#3 cycle 3 UCL26-28 CD3
Wombat33 TTC#1 Cycle 1 (post MC) UCL 31 CD3
youremindmeofthebabe TTC#2, Cycle 3 UCL33 CD1

WTTC

Sillyness TTC#1 post MC1 WTF cycle
Jollster TTC #2, MC3 conf 16th Aug
BackOnceAgain TTC#3, MC 17th Aug
Shitforbrains TTC#3, MC 1st Sep
Sarahmia TTC#2, MC2
MummyAbroad TTC #2,(MMC#1 31 Mar, ERPC 7 Jul)
Tunnocksteacake
Urbanlolly

MIA
pippaandpolly
Honeywitch TTC#1
Curlylox TTC#3
delilahbelle TTC#1

RECENT GRADUATES
BUnderthebonnet BFP 20 June
Muser BFP 22 June
northerngoldilocks - BFP 12 July
Magic8ballhastheanswers BFP 14 July
Hopefully BFP 22 July
IvySedai BFP 1 August
PenguinsMummy BFP 15th August
batteryhen BFP 18 August
VivClicquot BFP 25 August
Loopymumsy BFP 29 August
CaribouMoo BFP
hairytriangle BFP 21 Sep

mummyA that's good news and must be a bit of a relief, to say the least! FX for uneventfuk happenings in your life, except for the BFP that's due, of course.

apples and velvet TEST TEST TEST! You are now my only chance for a BFP this week Am rather excited on both your behalf, velvet have you been peeing on OPK too??

PFF Ive had 3 random cycles which havent included the original waiting for period after ERPC one..

Hi to purple, dont think Ive greeted you yet

Oh Apple, poor you, stay in bed and get well soon. x

Hugs for LadyB

Is that the sound of a lovely lady screaming 'BFP' I can hear? Hopefully and good luck to those POAS this weekend.

Pink, this is exactly why I have stopped temping and using OV POAS! My body has all of a sudden become a rule unto itself and I'm sure watching every teeny tiny little thing was adding to my stress levels and making matters worse!! I now only note my old bitch arrival dates!! Hope your cycle sorts itself out my lovely.

MummyA What a relief, and you are right...hopefully the start of a new and happy chapter. Made up for you

Thanks Izzy well it all seems to be positive in my case then! Not heard from friend yet but she could be on jolly's, I know I'll hear at some point! Hope your trip to the GP goes well.

BTW, all this bookface talk...I've added peeps on there that I know less well than some of you lovely ladies...anyone wanna play on there? Message me and I'll add you, be nice to put a few face's to the names I already have one of you on there and you (who shall remain nameless) is lovely

My job for the day...complete the MORI on behalf of the DoH, GP Survey, that landed on my door matt yesterday! I can't wait to fill that bugger in

Have a good weekend all, we're away so not likely to get the chance to check back in.

Am going to test in the morning! Just went to the loo coz I felt stuffcoming out so was expecting AF but it was more white stuff.

Am doing boring CPD today so will catch up with everyone later

Mummya Sooooo glad to hear things went well with the lung specialist!!! Fingers crossed the massages will sort out the pain and you'll be as good as new in no time :) As for the FB pg announcement, I think we've all done things in the past that we look back on and curse ourselves for. Live and learn, eh? The only person who got hurt by it though is you, so you've no need to feel embarrassed about it. I agree with you on future scans - I'm going to demand loads!! Sadly we'll need to to try to work out whether the bean is developing as it should.

I'm not at all looking forward to future scans. Nicks, Purple, Pink, hugs. Reading your experiences makes me feel soo sad. When we went for our first one I'd only had light spotting, not the heavy bleed that was to come, so we were still hoping it would all be okay. My dear, dear, DH was trying to be optimistic and having spotted the sign that said you had to buy a token for a picture of your baby before you went in for the scan he bought one. My overwhelming memory is of him sitting beside me in the darkened scan room, holing my hand with one hand and tightly clutching his token for a photo of our little one in the other, staring intently at the screen desperately looking for a baby and a heartbeat and of course, there was none :( :( :(

LadyBee sorry to hear you are feeling blue. Big hugs coming your way over the internet. It must be hard being away from your parents when you so want to see them. That's a long way and I imagine flights must be very expensive. Is there no way they could come this year and next?? Really hope you get a strong and sticky BFP to carry you through your due date for pg1. hope you managed to locate DH for the SWI!!!

Nicks - ouch on the nails!!! :) Bless your mum for being a rock when you needed her. Are you managing to feed yourself now? I'm finding I've gone from one extreme to the other and am now eating loads of bad stuff in a 'well it doesn't really matter' way

Pink I'm sure your mum was just glad she was able to be there for you, please don't feel guilty. I know what you mean about struggling to concentrate on anything other than TTC! I'm a mad obsessed woman (if you hadn't already all worked that out)!!! Hoping for a BFP for you and that's you've just been testing too early so far! Can't help on the cycle front, but I'm very impressed you discuss these things with your MIL!!

AandR I'm sorry I made you and others weepy. I think we are all very strong and we'll get through whatever life throws at us, however much we may fear it. It's been a huge help for me 'meeting' all of you. I'm looking forward to us all sharing happier times in future - I'm sure they are just around the corner for us all :) :) And at your Dad's comment! Ignore it if you can - sounds like he didn't know what to say and unfortunately managed to come out with exactly the wrong thing! We've all been there. at the butcher. Maybe he'll stay quiet (here's hoping)!

yrotb Sorry AF got you but glad it means cycles are sorting themselves out. FX for this month!

Apples and Velvet I have everything crossed for good news for you!! Apples, hope you recover from the stomach bug quickly.

Cariboo I'm so glad you are managing too start too enjoy it! You show there's hope for all us chronic worriers yet

Waves to Mammap, tunnocks, izzy, owl and anyone else I've missed!