Just MC and ready to try again? Pack your cake, wine and tightie whities and join us for more ranting, weeping and most of all, laughing. All welcome (Part 6)

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A lovely place for those either lurking, waiting, WTFing or SWI after MCing...

...with optional fish slapping

ooh! Excited! Test, test!

Would have thought a bfp would show 12dpo...

Mahoooooisve post to catch up and attempt to check as many as possible, even if it's just a little wave

Izzy have emailed GP friend this morn and asked her all about progesterone levels and LPD etc. Her knowledge of womens health is fab, I didn't ask her before about my prob's because she's a friend and I don't like to bother my GP friends with my medical issues, but needs must and she's helped me out with brilliant advice before so... I don't expect a quick reply as I know she's v busy but as soon as I get one will post answers here and on your other thread

Apple that doesn't sound silly at all, it sounds perfectly normal to anyone on this thread. You could be this months BFP, here's hoping

LadyB threaten body with the use of some of the ridiculous suggestions on the ttc tips thread unless it starts behaving!!

YRMOTB It only takes one SWI and one little swimmer to win the race...you never know

Nix Your body is probably very run down, what about trying a really good tonic (not the one that goes with Gin sadly ) to give it a boost? A local health food store should be able to give advice on tonics/supplements...just a thought!

Pink I was told the same about coming of the pill! Pah...We have all had such shite advice/experience's!

MummyA Any news on your results? Scanned up through thread but couldn't see anything! Did see your list though...I noticed Tetley teabags on there, they've just released a new come back ad. and it's brilliant this makes me laugh so much !

Waves to Choccy AandR Kat Velvet Caribou purple Owl Wombat teacake BrownB Loola Jam Pretty Dachs and ALL Phew, must be time for a cuppa!!

Preoccupation completely expected apple - what does +ve OPK mean when close to af due date?

Quick query for the oh so knowledgable ones out there- I am in awe of you savvy ladies - I don't think I'd know my cervix if I found it let alone whether it was open or closed - so much to learn! Had what I think was an ovulation bleed - very minimal pinkish only there when wiped TMI- would have missed it if I haven't been obsessing tracking things! In any case, if it is ovulation related does that mean I would have started the 2ww?

mummyA sending warm orange and pink auras your way

For those with thick pant snot Yeahhhhh

On phone struggling to scroll so waves to all until later!

A&R i bled/spotted on day 12 and 13 then i think OV on day 15... i think, according to ew and very high cervix!! (usually ov on day 18 due to longish cycles) maybe its just our bodies getting back to normal.?

apples TEST TEST TEST!!!! i didnt know a OPK would pick up a bfp but certainly makes sense! > And YES it is possble to get tonsilitis :( SADLY. i found out earlier in the year when i spend 5 days in bed with high fevers and white spots :( The infection can get into the buds. No fever just a hoofing painful white spot. Had them removed at age 4 after recurrent fevers, never had it since til i contracted it off DS! Mapa agree... am taking high strength vits already... but dont look healthy! pale with very large suitcases deposited under my eyes Have also just had abs for BV but it hasnt cleared so got to have again :( GRRRRRR now where are those pro-biotics?!?!?

apples you arent alone in thinking the pg was normal,... i was incubating an empty sac for 3 months thinking all was tickety boo!! TEST TEST TEST!!

PS Chocky sorry old bitch got you :( Thanks YRMOTB :) feeling ok, just a bit rough. DS was up most of the night with sore throat last night, left to DH to sort!! Cant wait to see 'em tonight xx

FX to anyone testing today xxxx

APPLE

Just read this and thought of you

www.peeonastick.com/opkhpt.html

and now I want to know

1. how dark was your line?
2. how good (expensive) was your kit?
3. When are you testing with HPT?

ooooooh good luck darling! It all looks very very encouraging! xxxxxxxxxxxxx

Nickster sorry you are ill! Antibiotics do tend to do that... prebiotics sounds like a very good idea, along with lots of TLC and rest. Hope DS lets you get some.

chocky sorry about AF How is life in Germany?

AandRMum MampP is our Cevix Finding Expert. She will give you some good tips. I managed to find mine when it felt hard (like your nose) and then a few days later soft (like your lips) While hard it is much much smaller than you would expect!

Seeing as it is my due date today and Miscarriage Awareness month I have just "outed" myself on facebook as a miscarriage sufferer. Has anyone else told the whole world what they have been through?

mummyabroad thinking of you today on your due date, and keeping fx that your appt later puts your mind at rest.

Re outing yourself: most people know about me, because we'd gone public after the 13 week scan. Friends who live away who I didn't see in the window between the scan and my 16-week appt probably don't know I was ever pg . I am going to post a mc awareness link on fb this week though in honour of mc awareness week. And like you i'm sure I'll be tempted to post something on my due date.

I actually find it much easier when people know than when they don't, because I hate pretending there never was a baby, so I'm quite happy to out myself to those that don't know. But I can understand why others prefer to keep it private.

MummyA Big Hugs, thinking of you. I was wondering about advertising the awareness campaign on FB!

oh just noticed your comment AandR, if you wanted to get intimate with your cervix, there is some info earlier on in the thread but let me know if you can't find it, I will happily ramble on about shoving your fingers up there and rummaging around until you find the blighter

Mummya Hugs for your tough day. I hope the appointment goes well this evening. I saw a friend of a friend had posted the babyloss awareness message as her status yesterday (she lost her little girl at full term :( :( ) and wondered whether to do the same, but in the end shied away from it. If I was ever going to tell the world at large, impersonally like that would be my preferred way of doing it (for me) but I know my mum (and poss others) would be really hurt that I hadn't told them first and face-to-face, and I am really not ready to do that.

Wombat sweetie, did you really not tell your mum you had a mc? Why?

(Please tell me to shut up if this is too personal and you dont want to talk about it)

I should add that my mmc was discovered at 14 weeks and I had told everyone I was pregnant at 12 (even though I hadnt had a scan yet - Duh STOOOOOPID!) so in fact lots of people knew about the mc anyway. Outing myself on facebook meant broadening it from a few close friends and family to a bunch of ex work colleagues,old school friends,
perfect stranger etc!

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I didn't tell my Mum either. I couldn't cope with how upset it would have made her as it would have been first grandchild etc and I know she would have been gutted for me. So probably it was more for my own benefit, if you see what I mean - I will tell her one day but not right now when I can't cope with her reaction.

Does that make sense?

Also; MummyA I think outing yourself is fantastic & I admire your courage!

Mummya no, I didn't :( For a whole host of reasons. It happened the day after she came out of hospital after an operation and she was waiting to find out if she had cancer (she doesn't) and she was relying on me (and my sis - who I also didn't tell) to look after her, not the other way around. And we've been told we face genetics issues that may put us in a position of losing, or facing the horrible decision of whether to terminate, any future pregnancy. The issues are related to my congential disability, which was enough of a shock to my mum when I was born, let alone what it's going to do to her to find out that I/her future gch are facing this situation. I felt I couldn't tell her part without telling all and if I told all I'm not sure how well she'd cope, plus I'd have to support her through it, when I want to concentrate on supporting myself and my DH. And the fewer people who know, the less the expectation/speculation, and the more 'room' we have to take decisions and deal in our own way if we find ourselves in the dreaded 'worse' position (a 'sticky' pregancy but abnormal foetus) further down the line. Sorry, it's all a bit depressing :( but thanks for asking ;)

Owl I understand and second both your comments!

wombat that must have been such a lot for you to deal with all at once . I can see your (and owl's ) point of view on this - we were sort of forced to do it all publicly because of how far things had gone and in the end I found that easier, but my dsis was the exact opposite and didn't want anyone to know about her pg/mc.

mummyabroad I don't think you were wrong for telling people at 12 weeks, you should be able to assume by then that you're probably going to end up with a baby. If anything I wish I'd enjoyed and made the most of this pg while I still had the baby!

To those of you on facebook: is there a general baby loss awareness message/link that you're posting?

Izzy yes, I did feel a little bit like I might crumple under the weight of it all for a while, but on here there seem to be so many people dealing with different but equally if not more difficult situations it put it all into perspective for me on a sane day. I have had, and still do have moments though of being tempted just to tell everyone and have done with it. Might get there yet...

The baby loss message I've seen is:

"During October we remember all babies born sleeping or whom we have carried but never met, those we have held but could not take home or the ones that came home but could not stay. The loss of a baby is still a taboo subject. Break the silence in memory of all our angels."

Thanks wombat

Mamapower - this might interest you, I was talking to dsis earlier about cycles (no we're not in any way obsessed!) and she said her consultant at FC told her that the length of luteal phase didn't matter because the body produced progesterone which would sustain the pg. That seems to tie in with what you were told doesn't it? But then I thought one of the causes of lpd could be low progesterone, which would surely mean that you couldn't sustain the pg (if that was the cause of your lpd -clearly it isn't for you)? Hmmm.

Anyway I will see what gp says tomorrow (if he doesn't send me straight back out the door) and report back.

Wow wombat that just seems like so much to cope with all at once, I am so sorry you have to go through all this. It must have been so difficult being the carer for your mum when you needed some good care for yourself. Thanks for sharing that with us.

I guess its easier for me to tell my mum because she is 5,500 thousand miles away, difficult reactions are always so much easier to deal with at that distance!

I really like the facebook status, much better than mine, might be changing it...

Thanks for your kind comments Izzy Its really hard for me to think about my pregnancy announcement without wincing as I did something even more STOOOPID. So bad in fact, I can hardly bring myself to write about it, but today seems a good day for cathartic sharing so..
On the advice of a very shit private midwife I decided not to have a scan until 20 weeks, and I announced this plan on facebook as my pregnancy announcement. 2 weeks later I went for a scan when I started spotting and discovered the baby was dead.

I know in the great scheme of things much worse things have happened (and are happening) that I could worry about, but it is still a very wincy horrible thing to remember. I stopped writing facebook status' around that time.

Helloooo chattermonsters.

Firstly, let me congratulate MA for being brave enough to out yourself - big smack on the back for you lovely lady! Hugs too for the due date, hope you are wearing your ribbons. (mine is pinned to my purse)! I too have thought about doing something on fb but i dont think i could cope with not wanting to login after!

wombat that babyloss message is lovely and brought a tear to my eye just reading it. The only problem with putting it on your status, people who arent your friends can see it.... ! Just dont think i am brave enough to do it.... maybe i will re-word the parag so its in the third person

Izz everyone pretty much knows about me too. MA i dont think u are a twat for telling anyone, i told everyone before 8 weeks... just like i did with pg1... its very hard then to untell people! Owl and wombo totally understand for keeping it quiet tho. I slipped up today, made reference to some work friends about "took up knitting the last time i was pregnant" before i could stutter my excuses they both stood staring at my belly.... .. maybe they will get the message when i dont get fat!!

Ooops X posts MA why did you decide not to scan til 20 weeks? Um... i didnt announce on FB and i am so glad i didnt!.... Oh dear.... MA i havent written a status update since before i MC'd. Cant bring myself to hear other peoples good news when i am not right in the head yet does that make sense.? Maybe it is the right thing to do to go public?! Who knows>?!!

cut your nails!