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Assisted Conception (and the bits in between) Volume 6

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rowingboat · 14/09/2010 11:00

Hi all,
I just went to post on the old thread and noticed it had been locked, so here is a new one!
Come on in!

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LissySilver · 24/09/2010 08:38

I would just like to say ARGH to these bloody Cyclogest pessaries! Can't decide which end to put them (sorry TMI)!

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LissySilver · 24/09/2010 11:23

BB--Your darn tootin'! (Hee hee) It would be funny if I wasn't holding them in.

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LissySilver · 24/09/2010 18:05

BB--All in the name of baby! Worth it to me Grin

rowingboat · 25/09/2010 00:29

Hi all,
just wanted to agree with you Lissy, about the cyclogest.
I was using them after my last FET and ended up with some very dodgy looking damp patches on my trousers. Of course this happened when I was out shopping in the middle of the day, so nice and public.
This was with a slim towel.
They do give you wind and bloating.
It is worth it though! Smile

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Loujalou · 25/09/2010 08:02

I am still about just back from my hols. Will catch up properly later!

LissySilver · 26/09/2010 11:42

Right. In the most interminable 2WW of my life, I've developed some majorly sore boobs. This happened my last cycle when I had a BFP, so here's hoping!

Keziahhopes · 26/09/2010 20:55

Hi to Meg and Mog, I like those names!

Am excited that we will have ICSI (due to dh's morphology and high antibodies, at last we know a reason! as well as my lowish progesterone) at the end of Oct/beg of Nov. Met the consultant who gave us this protocol on Friday and will get my presctiption in a few weeks time, so just need next cycle to come (anyday now) and go so can start. This will be first treatment, as IUI etc not going to work. Eek, bit scared.

All best for your 2ww Lissy

Italiangreyhound · 26/09/2010 22:06

Lissy, BB, Loujaloo, Hortonhi guys, how?s it going and all the best.

Rowing any news when you will go for treatment.

Cerubina waves to Meg and Mog Grin Grin

Keziahhopes* Hi, we are twins; I was at my clinic on Friday! Well, not exactly twins! We had a good chat with the consultant, a different one, who kindly discussed immunity issues. Thanks to a book I read (in the waiting room!!!) I asked about my hands, and the fact they get stiff and could be it rheumatism related. Will let you know when I know more.

Scared about getting weighed this week, what is going on in my insides! Been a bit constipated (TMI) too many bananas and a not enough other fruit!

Watching Juno, it?s aching sad (and annoying) of course I can associate with the prospective adoptive mum not really the teenage pregnant girl!

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Italiangreyhound · 27/09/2010 21:24

Where is everyone at the moment?

How is everyone at the moment?

Rowing any news? Wink

Choco are you are around? Grin

MM please do come back and tell us how it is going if you can.

Sooty any news?

I got a message by text at the weekend that a friend had had baby number three. It was a bit vague, not obvious who it was from etc and it just pissed me off. I know how sad that makes me sound and I am pleased for her in a kind of 'I'd rather not know!' sort of way! Envy

I spent the morning helping at a baby type sale (no they were not selling babies) and although I tried to shrug it off - I felt fed up most of the day. Went swimming with DD (without DH) and realised the last time I had done that she had been a pre-schooler (about 18 months ago) and it was a pre-school swim class with baby toys etc in the water. This time she was a demanding girl of almost 6 who almost tried to drown me in the small pool by pulling me under the water! Sometimes her behaviour is just a bit challenging and although I love her to bits I get frustrated. In the evening we had a fun food event at church and I felt a lot better.

I think I am now realising DD is not really serious about wanting a hamster and rather than feeling relieved I am feeling sad! Confused

BB hang on in there.

Love to all

Horton · 28/09/2010 20:18

Hello, nothing much to report from me, although I am feeling fine and not too down about the failure of our last cycle. I think maybe I'm starting to think about the positives of having just one child a bit more (sorry if this sounds spoilt to those of you who don't yet have one) and trying to stop worrying about another. I think we basically have one cycle left and then we're calling it a day. I don't want to just carry on trying forever and getting more and more wound up.

I must say, I would quite like a hamster but DH has vetoed such a thing quite definitively.

rowingboat · 28/09/2010 20:24

Hi all,

sorry, sorry, I meant to reply.

Italian, news, yes! I have an appointment at my local clinic regarding the failed IVFs. I recognise the name of the doctor as one who deals with miscarriage so I hope I will be given the level one immune tests. Not sure though, but the appointment is at the end of October.
Not sure whether to put back the FET because I would prefer not to be taking the hormones etc... when going in for any blood tests.

The clinic I will be visiting for the FET have prescirbed me steroids as well as oestrogen and progesterone.

Sorry to hear you were feeling sad about your friend's new baby. It is natural to feel sad though. She probably had no time or energy to tell people in person, sleep-deprivation doesn't lend itself to elevated social skills.
You will be a mummy again soon, one way or another.
Yes almost six year old's are scary, aren't they! Shock

Keziah, not long is it! I know it is all a bit scary, but there is lots of support and knowledge on here for you. Smile

Lissy how is the 2WW going?

Starting to feel apprehensive about this forthcoming FET. I feel as if I have been through the mill emotionally with AC and I don't have much energy left for more disappointment. Can somebody else do it for me please? ConfusedSmile

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Idreaminfruitandnut · 28/09/2010 22:35

Hi there!

Just been reading up on the thread.

Italian - hello!! I had a rather violent "anti-reaction" when I saw an advert for the Fertility Show last year (I thought it was a blatant attempt for a load of companies to screw money out of very vulnerable people), but i must say that I'm quite curious about the plastic sperm. Do you have a photo?

Night! xx

Keziahhopes · 29/09/2010 00:04

rowing - great you are having meds prescribed . Am bit worried not having anything other than the down regging meds etc - sort of feel I should have things, just in case! Weird, I know. Hope your FET goes well x

LissySilver · 29/09/2010 09:56

Hi all. Nothing much to report, except to say that calm, zen-like state has been replaced by anxious, I'm starting to freak out I can't wait any longer state. I know I'm supposed to be calm and find distractions, but that's a bit difficult at the moment. ARGH.

Hope everyone is doing well and feeling well. Catch you soon....

Loujalou · 29/09/2010 10:20

Cerubina you might call them Meg and Mog but I am still keen on Rumpole and Kavanagh. Glad its all going well.

Lissy have you tried some hypno CDs or downloads my old hypnotherapist did some for IVF see here you never know it might help you a bit. How long until you can test?

I think I will keep away from the infertility show....

Loujalou · 29/09/2010 10:22

This is what I meant to link to.

rowingboat · 29/09/2010 18:35

Hi all,

Keziah, never fear, there are a whole host of additional supplements you can blow your cash on whilst doing IVF or ICSI.
And of course alternative therapies, such as acupuncture.
I won't bore you with the details, but if you really want to know....? Smile

Lissy oh the madness of the waiting! It can drive you to drink, but it's not recommended as a coping strategy by most clinics (reputable clinics at least).
Perhaps you could learn the guitar to pass the time? Shock

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Italiangreyhound · 29/09/2010 23:39

Lost another 2 and a half pounds today. So glad it is working! I am also re-learning about eating. Managed to have a handful of pretzals tonight and not eat the whole bag!

LissySilver · 30/09/2010 09:25

Rowing--You're right, it can drive you to drink! I am abstaining, for now. Good luck for your FET. I'm rooting for you!

Italian--Well done you! Keep up the good work...

Lou--None of that hypnotherapy works on me. I've been a really bad insomniac for eight years now, and I've tried every alternative therapy you can think of. Nothing helped. I'm due to test on Tuesday next week, so I'll be tearing my hair out of my head until then.

Feeling a bit low at the moment, and managed to convince myself that I'm not PG and AF will arrive any moment. Sad Heading to the States on Tuesday will hopefully distract me....

Loujalou · 30/09/2010 11:12

Lissy shame about hypno its one of those out there things which you think shouldn't work but can do. Obviously not for you. Do you have anything nice planned for the weekend or just packing??

Anyway this bit is a bit me me me me!

Right first appointment with the FC nurse and it wasn't too bad. She weighed me and went through my tests. I have got to have day 2 - 4 bloods done and TH has been referred for a SA at Hammersmith. Apparently the first test was fine but second no so great so they do more in depth tests. Not sure what that means but I thought it was worth doing to see what they come up with.

We have an appointment with the consultant on 30th December but hopefully we will be able to get a cancellation once we have had the tests done.

Not sure what to think but she said they will check my tubes after these tests and we have had another appointment. Not sure if I should have pushed for it but didn't as at least we are now in the system having things done....

rowingboat · 30/09/2010 21:43

Hi all,

Lissy, distraction is the key! You want to do lots of distracting things, lose your house keys, join a cult, steal a car, that kind of thing, for the next few days. Grin

Italian well done on the pretzels! TBH I could have a bag of unopened pretzels in my house for years and not be tempted, but crisps are a whole different ball game. Shock

Louja, that all sounds promising. What stage are you at in the assisted conception process?
I did do a scan back in this thread, but couldn't find anything.

I have an ongoing ear problem, which I manage with ibuprofen and steroid spray, but I can't really take them whilst preparing for the FET, but it would be difficult not to take anything.
I have a couple of appointments in a couple of weeks to have it investigated. Really want to get this sorted out before starting treatment.
Still not quite sure whether to go for it for the next cycle or to wait until I have this ear thing resolved.

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Italiangreyhound · 01/10/2010 02:10

Horton I know exactly how you feel. I am trying to enjoy having one child, she does seem very grown up at almost but I am very happy to be her mum. Sorry to those yet waiting for this, I wish you all the very best, it is worth it so hang on in there. I know we have only one more cycle of IVF (with donor eggs) and we are now past the second month so hopefully we have just 6 months to go until we start (end of March) for an end of May finish! My brother-in-law is very asthmatic and so we can't have a hamster as he could never visit (he visits about once a year at the moment so no great loss!) Anyway, I was willing to suffer only seeing brother-in-law at his house if DD was really keen on a hamster but now she is not, I can't really go for it. My current dream is that I will get a job locally and be at home more and we will get a dog, an Italian greyhound or a west highland terrier, like this

or
I like the one in the cap!

Oh I am sad!

Rowing - mad alert, poor Lissy will be pregnant and trying to break out of the Moonies, break out of jail or break back into her house! I think I prefer the learn how to play the guitar option!

Rowing totally up to you but if you are paying for FET and can take it at any time then I would wait until you feel ready. No need to rush it, the eggs/embryos are already there, as long as there are no other complications then a month or two should not alter anything. How is your little one coping with the process, does he know anything about it? I have resisted the urge to tell DD anything about IVF because she would get all excited. She already dresses up the dolls and puts them up the table, on the sofa and calls them babies! Pressure! I feel sure my friend's hubby sent the text and anyway, I feel OK now, she deserves it. Is not that others don't deserve their babies; it's just that it stings a bit! If I ever get pregnant I am going to be so sensitive

Idreaminfruitandnut and BBI never saw the plastic sperm! I think the fertility show at about £30 or so was probably the cheapest part of our whole fertility journey, so I didn't resent paying for it! I am not sure I will go again this year but I might. Yes, you can look at anything like this as a place where they are trying to get money out of us, and the food was expensive so I think I would take a packed lunch if I did go!!!!!!!!!

Lissy what will you be up to in the states? I am a bit of an insomniac too! (Hence it is 2.00 a.m. BUT when I can sleep what really helps is a warm bath before bed, sends me right off to sleep! No TV before bed, milky drinks and maybe some nice lavender in your bedroom. Have you tried all of them together?

I did try the CD from Zita West; it was a kind of relaxation and let's make it happen by sheer will, for the two week wait! It didn't work for me and I think now I would not use it again as this time I am going to be very honest about it possibly not working for me!

Keziah all the best to you.

Loujalou Wow, 30th December, something to look forward to for after Christmas. I hope you get your cancellation before that. I think pushing for tests can be a good idea, but obviously once you are in the system it is easier, if things aren't happening quickly enough then I would just keep asking for cancellations etc. Good luck. Is this number 1 you are trying for?

Fell off the wagon a bit tonight n the snack department! Went a bit mad but luckily not as mad as I used to go. Having things in small packets helps. the big old grab bags are a disaster for people like me; small 20g packs are the way to go!

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