Assisted Conception (and the bits in between) Volume 6

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Hi all,
I just went to post on the old thread and noticed it had been locked, so here is a new one!
Come on in!

Lissysilver.

Good luck for tomorrow.

Trying to stay sane at the start of my second week. Thanks for all the good wishes. Spent all of today in different hospitals. Had a chat with the embryologists about the lack of information throughout the big thaw. It was highly sucessful and both embryologists and general nursing staff are gouing to review their practice and see if more information can be given to patients both before and during transfer. Thanks Londonlottie for suggesting talking to them. Then moved on and spent three hours on the chest ward with Dad. He is terminally ill (myloid dysplasia plus sarcoidosis) but was better today and able for a long chat. Great to have the opportunity before we head back to Ireland. Lateatwork the new job is in Ireland. Liverpool is in the mix to break the journey.

Once again best of luck for tomorrow Lissysilver.

Newbishad

Very best of luck for tomorrow, Lissy!

And v sorry to hear about your dad, newbishad. But lovely that you had the chance for a good chat with him.

Lissy well done, all the best for tomorrow. Yom Kippur was 17-18 of September, wasn't it, so the Internet tells me! Was EC on Saturday. So you kind of missed it, cos you had Friday in peace, I hope! Does that mean, I hope it means you could celebrate it in peace! So now you have your ET tomorrow.

All the very best.

Hi all,
just popping in to see how Lissy got on!!
[interested face]

Hi gang. ET was this morning. I had two embies put in, both fertilized normally and both split (one two cells and one four). I feel like as soon as they hit my womb they sighed and said to each other "This is so much better than a glass dish!" Doctor had to root around a little, so I'm feeling quite crampy and sore, but otherwise ok. I'm officially in my 2WW. I promised myself that I would NOT go out and buy pregnancy tests until AT LEAST the end of next week. But heading off to America in two weeks, so will test before I go.

Thanks to everyone for well wishes!

Italian--I actually had my EC on Sunday, so I was able to go to synagogue Friday night and all day Saturday for Yom Kippur. Tried fasting and made it to 5:30, so I did pretty well.

Waves and hugs to all on their 2WW, and chocolate biscuits for all those who are having a rough time. Thinking of you all...

Off to watch my American shows...

Hi all,

My day started strangely when I did a test got one very, very, very faint line which faded after half an hour. Then did another test which was negative. I am bitterly disapointed, I think my chances of anything being positive are remotely low, even though my acutal offical test day is Friday. I feel a bit crampy but the only time I feel pregnant is a couple of hours after the prgestrone dose.

I had a good cry and feel a bit better. If things stay negative I am going to save up and try one more time, as the reason things didn't work was that the frozen embies did not survive. I agree with Horton, I hope I have not been insensitive here, I am blessed to have one child. Horton is right and so are the statistics. These days the chances of sucess at IVF are so much greater than they once were. With time it will happen for you, I am sure it will. And I was where you were three years ago, childless with all the emotions that go with it and no hope of pregnancy.I am missing my right tube curtesey of an ectopic pregnancy and my left one is damaged curtesey of second ectopic pregnancy.

Lissysilver...lots and lots of luck. l'shan tova My mother is Jewish and three years ago when I did my cycle, my embies fertilized on the Jewish New Year and that was very important to me.

Talk soon.

Newbishad

Newbishad so sorry, no words but maybe take heart, who knows, Friday may be different. Do test again on the right date just to be sure.

It is never easy!

Lissy well done, just keep incubating those eggs/embies and thinking good thoughts. Have you decided to give them names?

Rowing how are you doing? When are you going abroad for your treatment?

MM how are things, how do you feel? I do hope you are making friends and settling in, I am thinking of you.

Latetowork how are you feeling, you were a bit sad a while back and ranting, are you feeling OK?

Bagofholly, Horton, Keziah, BB, Idreaminfruitandnut and all - thinking of you my little chums and wondering how it is going?

Sassy, Frosty, Isle, Gingerwine, LL thinking of you all.

I lost one and a half pounds at Rosemary Conley today, hooray.

Does anyone have any opinions on naming embies? I have mixed emotions about naming, it is so sad when it does not work but it does give you a name to hang your emotions on! I named mine Tyler Willow (which did not make it into the womb at all), Emerald Jake and Laurel Daisy. They also did not make it! Now when I see laurel leaves or willow trees, I think of them all.

Arrow prayers for us all to get our babies! I am feeling very spiritually awake after a long time of feeling in the doll drums! So praying for us all.

Chocolate boob to all

Hi all,
Newbi, don't give up yet. I know this is the slowest week of all time, and you probably just want to get it over with. A faint line is a good sign, not sure about the disappearing. faulty test?
You may have tested too early and could easily have a different result on Friday. Even then if the test if neg, you may have a positive blood test. Not everybody has a fast rising HCG and there are many stories out there of people not receiving positive tests until well after OTD.
Big hug (know how you feel)
Sorry to hear about your dad, but glad you could talk to him (find small happinesses where we may)

Lissy fingers crossed for the this cycle.

Italian it didn't make any difference to me about the naming. I didn't feel more or less upset when they failed. It really depends on the frame of mind you are in, at least naming them is a bit of fun during what can be a very trying time.

BB TTC no 2 here as well. It is easy with one thought isn't it!

AF arrived for me, this time on day 23/4 (close to midnight) so although not back to normal, at least it ties in with the day 10 ovulation. Hopefully, the next cycle will be OK.
Glad I waited, this would have been a very stressful cycle with the funny timings.
Thinking about pushing back ovulation with red clover (worked the last time), because the FET transfer is likely to be on a day when I would not be able to take leave.
If this next cycle doesn't conform to normal I may have to delay again. Have emailed the clinic to say it may be Dec/Jan if the holidays are factored in.
Secretly, my inner control freak wants to wait because it would be better for the child to have a late birthday for school entry reasons. [crazed cackle]

Hi all,

Well the test was negative as expected. Must now stop all medication. Feel a bit sad but had a chat with the clinic counsellor last night. I am definately not giving up treatment just because money is tight. She has recomended a place, Reprofit, I think it's called in the New Cheque Republic. I am keen to do a donor embryo cycle as I am rapidly approaching 40 and I think I stand a much higher chance that way. Does anyone have information about that clinic. My plans are to research it (and similar clinics) as much as possible in the next couple of weeks and then book an inital appointment. My counsellor thinks there is a nine month waiting list.

I am about to go to Liverpool and I don't have internet access as yet so I am saying aurevoir for a while. I will be back in touch and thanks again everyone for all your support. Good luck to all of you through cyber space.

Love Newbishad

Hi all,

Look how I have spelt Czeck Republic. My apologies. I am learning.

Newbishad

Hi all,

Newbishad first of all, I'm sorry to hear you have had a negative. Do you still have a blood test? Are you feeling OK? Even though you expected this, please give yourself a bit of time to relax and pamper yourself.

Secondly, we are most likely to go to Reprofit for embryo adoption. It is very popular with UK based women.

Another excellent clinic is Gennet in Prague. They offer IVF/ICSI and a full array of genetic screening. We have been in touch with them re embryo adoption and they have been very thorough and professional.
I don't think Gennet's waiting list is so long, but probably worth checking.

We travelled abroad for our first IVF, so if you do need any info please feel free to ask.
My email is woofycreature at gmail dot com if you do want to ask any questions.

Hi everyone. I've been away for a long time I know but I have been thinking of you all and checking in now and then.

Hi to those who remember me and a big hello to those who have joined the thread since then.

I have been firmly ignoring the whole TTC thing really. Busy working and getting on with stuff I suppose. Just beginning to think about what we do next. After 2 failed cycles (ICSI as male factor but I have a low AMH) I'm thinking a bit more about our options.

This is a shortish post as I am off with my DH for a weekend away later but I will be back!

Cerubina Wow and Congratulations
MM I's so sorry you have had a tough time. Be strong.
Italian I may yet end up cycling with you again
Waves to penguin, Horton, Isle, londonlottie, rowing and everyone else!!

hi newbi so sorry about your test result.

There is lots of information on Reprofit on fertilityfriends. I havent done any research myself on it but there looks to be quite a few chat boards with people who are potential, current or past users of the clinic.

wishing you a safe journey home.

Hi all,

Thanks for your lovely replies. I will be back in touch as soon as I can.

Newbishad

Hi all

rowing do it when it suits you, whatever your reasons. It can't hurt and to be honest these things are so random!

Gingerwine Hi, good to hear from you again but sorry it is not under better circumstances. Just hope that things will go well and we will both get our bfps!
Horton, Penguin, Choco and all ? greetings.

Newbishad the wait at clinics for donor eggs varies considerably. I don't know about other bits of Europe but I understand there is virtually no wait at some clinics in Spain, such as Ceram and also MAYBE Ginefiv or Institute Bernabeu in Alacante which you may be able to contact direct or via Wessex Fertility Limited www.wessexfertility.com but the prices vary a lot.

The clinic I have had most email contact with is Ceram which does not seem to have a wait and which had a nice person who spoke good English (is English) and was most helpful, some details may be at

PLEASE just note I am NOT recommending these clinics, I have not been to them. I have just found out the details on line and the Ceram clinic was able to give me lots of info by email.

Good luck to us all.

Newbishad that is donor eggs and embryos but if you already have a 'relationship' with a clinic, I would go for the clinic you already 'know'!

Just FYI, this may interest those of you in the south of England.

hi italian thanks for your well wishes earlier. am feeling better- but still pretty on edge tbh. partner has found a new job and i am off on hols on sat so that should help!

have booked in to see argc day after we get back. have had all my bloods done. get the results the day I get back...
we are planning at the moment to keep trying naturally until december and then start IVF in Jan. But it all depends on what the clinics say...

Hi all, thanks for the well wishes! I can't believe it's only Thursday! This 2WW is going to be intolerable, I know it!

Newbi--I'm sorry to hear about your result. I agree that a few days can make the difference between a BFN and a BFP...

Italian--No, I haven't given them names. I'm just thinking of them as "The Beans" right now...

BB I was there too last year!

It was quite a weird experience.

What do you think was the weirdest best stand!

Aside from the Spanish clinic giving out free fans and little boxes of nougat! I love nougat (Be strong - whispers Rosemary!)

Lissy keep those beans warm.

Latetdowork - wow new job for partner - what is the catchy short form of partner, the word that we use like hubby (party!) - and hol for you, good news.

Love to MM, Rowing, Lissy, Choc, Horton, love to you all.

TracyBeagle and Penguin all best wishes and low fat chocolate for all.

Kiwi and Frosty have you gone forever.

PS Who am I missing off, come and say, did we start a role call or did we abandon it!

Sorry about the BFN Newbishad, that really sucks. Whether it's donor embryos or something else I hope you get a way forward that works for you - take care of yourself.

Keep up the good work Lissy, hope the rest of the 2WW flies by and gives you good news at the end!

I named my embies (Meg and Mog for no real reason) and am still calling them by those names now but didn't tell my husband. I suggested we name them on ET day and he didn't want to, thought it would mean getting too invested in it, so I just did it privately!

Hello again Ginger and I hope the diversionary tactics are helping you get it straight in your mind what you might want to do next. Sometimes doing something completely different from TTC for a while is just what the heart needs I think, but very difficult to do.

Enjoy your hols Lateatwork and come back refreshed!