More ongoing and continuing conceptions and follicling ahead of Feisty, Fabulous Forty somethings

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I've started a new thread!

BB - don't get the AMH test, it is just a number and means diddly-squat! When I went to St Mary's paddington, Dr Rai said it is not worth doing as it is just a number that is supposed to say what your ovarian reserve it (ie how many eggs left!) but in reality it does not help as you may have loads of eggs left but all of them duds, or you may have very few left but still have a golden egg that can produce the goods of a baby. So a high number is nice but could be misleading therefore not worth it, and a low number does not mean that there is no chance, just causes stress instead, which in itself is not helpful. Does that make sence? Summary - don't do it!

I have just been forced to have the amh test as I have been moved from a local gynae doctor that I was seeing to his colleague who is the supposed local specialist in recurrent miscarriage. The amh number is sometimes used in determining whether a person will have IVF treatment/or if the treatment will be modified. I certainly hope that the new doc I am seeing is not going to suggest IVF as it is not much help with Recurrent M/C. Anyway that is me, and my appointment is not til Nov anyway.

Hippy - how was dispicable me?

Keeping fingers crossed for the 2ww-er's.

galway wholeheartedly agree with you but my Mr Rutherford said he would not advise say

Morning I've not been long back from Cardiff so haven't had the chance to read through, but wanted to say hi
12 days post-ov, which I'm very pleased about re: LP as the longest for a while. Tested testerday morning and clear bfn, so pregnancy out for this month I'd say. Temps still above coverline, so really just pleased that my cycles seem to be evening out a little.
Has anyone else had a sneaky test (I mean you Hippy) while I've been away?

GG genius on the welly idea...

diege sorry a BFN as had high hopes, but not out yet though (don't temp so have no idea what you clever peeps are on about with rising/falling info!)

BB FWIW, my prog level at day 21 was 55.9, apparently over 30 shows you've ovulated, but someone on here mentioned that the AC clinics like to see a level of 60+ to maintain a pregnancy; BUT when I mentioned the result at the Ag0ra, she said "excellent, so no need to supplement with progesterone then..." ....

Where's my darling hippy?

Hope everyone else doing ok too x

Hi Jollster . I'm also wondering where Hippy is - fervently peeing on a stick I hope.
Well I have to book another away pass out please. A friend is taking me for a very late 40th present - train down to LOndin, staying over in hotel, and then seeing Les Miserables (again!) Very excited, but sod's law af will turn up tomorrow morning . Anyway, will be a nice treat

Hi everyone, popping on very quickly to say hello. I'm 36 weeks today, and have developed Obstetric Cholestasis again, as I did in my first pregnancy. I've had LOTS of blood tests and scans, so they're keeping a close eye on me. They told me last week that I'd have a scheduled c section on Friday 12th November at 38 weeks, but told me yesterday that they were going to bring things forward (just to be on the safe side) to Monday 8th - so our little girl will be here in 10 days! Eek!

I haven't caught up with the thread yet, I'm going to head off to bed now, then come on again in the morning and catch up with everyone's news then. Love to you all. x

Gosh time flies! Good luck on the 8th Kiwi, my DSD's birthday too... I had a friend who had OC the same time DS was born, it drove her to distraction, and she was very happy for early induction. I'm guessing the 8th won't be a moment too soon, or is there a way to control it? Hope it's not too bad for you.

Just back from hols... Had a quick read back, any more news from ILGH? Hope all these imminent thread babies are boosting confidence?

Hippy, so quiet... Have you had a bfp and gone into shock? Hope it is a bfp, but hope you're not too petrified either. 3rd time lucky for you m'dear.

Jolls I have my fingers tightly crossed for you too that you get a very sticky healthy little one soon. I may also be up for that welly swap. DS got fairly good at the brake on his run bike, but learned to pedal whilst we were away and all thoughts of braking are gone now on a big boy bike so his wellies back to getting trashed! V proud of him, but hard work at 7months gone running to keep up with him and catch him before major crashes (I failed a few times and big cuddles were required, but he still got straight back on and pedalled away as fast as his little legs would go again!!)

fingers crossed for bfps soon for all.
Reading Kiwis post just reminded me, as I think it was a post from her which prompted me to try it earlier this year; hypnotherapy's a good one, definitely helped me relax and feel a lot more confident...

Kiwi wow congratulations.

wondering if someone has made the same mistake i have

anyway had a scan today and at vast expense discovered what i already knew so very surprised at how much i've cried

still managed to waste another tenner on cbd

sorry not namechecked - feeling bloody self absorbed... dcs all being a bit wild so maybe someone's trying to tel me something

now what? tempt ashermans when i have been strictly told not to - suffer the hell that is medically managed or hand on and wait indefinitely?

hang not hand

40some - sorry to hear you have had your miscarriage confirmed, it is so hard. No-one can tell you what to do, but I know that for me, I prefer things to happen themselves rather than push them. I love the easy option of d&c but ashermans is a real worry. But only you can decide what is right for you. Sorry you have to be in this situation.

Kiwi - wow, so happy to hear that soon you will have your baby in arms. Sorry to hear about the Obstetric Cholestasis though. Hope that the c-section goes really smoothly for you.

Come on girls we need a bfp here soon too.

40somemum so sorry for you. I'm afraid I can't advise as I don't know all your medical history. Hope the docs can help in some way.

galway you are so right it is soo much easier to have d and c but grrrrr

( have spent last 2 hours kidding myself for the third time this year googling miracle pregnancies)

Oh 40somemum, I am sorry this is happening to you. Wish I had something helpful to say, but all I can say is how sorry I am.

It's nice to hear from our "over forty and feisty" pregnant mums.Sorry to hear you aren't well Kiwi, but looking forward to hearing all about your little girl when she arrives. It is great to see that we CAN and DO get pregnant in our 40's and bring home beautiful little babes. I sooo want to do it again!

I'm getting closer to O time, so feeling all hopeful and positive! Haven't done any opk's yet, will do one later...

We had a family lunch for my DH's 50th yesterday (this birthday has taken over a week!). Anyway, his younger cousin (34) was there with his new partner (22) and they are expecting their first baby. Dh and cousin were talking about it, and his cousin asked if we were catholic because we have "so many children"! DH answered, "If we were catholic,we'd have had ten by now". Then he said "You think having 5 children would mean you have to divide your love, but in fact, it multiplies it". I felt very happy to be married to him then (I do anyway!),it was such a lovely thing to say.

I'm grateful that the pregnant girl was only 12 weeks and not showing a belly, so it didn't bother me much. Of course I don't begrudge anyone their pregnancy, I just long to join them.It was good to be able to drink, though, we had some lovely champagne.

Hippy, me lovely, where art thou? And deige. C'mon girls, we need an update...

I've some left-over hazlenut espresso birthday cake if you'd like a piece.I'll leave it in the snug.It's delicious, I've been told.(I had something else, sans gluten)
Eat up!

40somemum sorry about your mc. I can't help you with the decision, but can see the attraction of an erpc I think. Not sure how big the risk is going that route.

Yes, I think someone made the same mistake as you. Obv can't do subterfuge.

I've got an appointment with private gynae on Monday. V excited. Maybe can stop self-medicating now. jolls my progesterone level was 38 which is v low I think, but was on ov day ( day 20) so may have got higher by day 21 . Anyway will get more answers hopefully.

hippy any news?

kiwi good to hear from you, good luck for the 8th

Hi, just a quicky, just about enough time to read not to post but just had to say to 40some Sorry to hear your news, I've twice this year MC naturally 11wks and 8wks both times I knew it was coming and drunk fresh parsley infusion (cut up parsley and cover with boiling water) not sure if it worked or if coincidence. But worth try.

Hope all ok with Hippy unusually quiet

Take care all
Spotty

Hi all. So so sorry that i've been missing and very pleased to see that so many people missed me .

My excuse is that i was staying with the boys at a friends house for thursday and friday and got back on Saturday.

My news is crap I'm afraid. I got a BFN on thursday morning and AF arrived late on Friday. i kept meaning to come on and tell you all at some point over the week-end but every time I meant to do it I just felt very apathetic. I'm just feeling that whole 'AF has arrived - what the fuck am i doing trying to have another baby' thing!

40some So sorry to hear your news. From my own experience I would say that it would depend how far along I was. When i found out in Feb that my little one had stopped at 8 weeks (I had got to 11.5 weeks) I knew immediately that I wanted to be asleep for the whole thing. But, 3 months later I had an early spontaneous loss at 7 weeks and it was actually much easier than i had thought (the scan showed only a very small sac though so that might be why it was not much heavier than a normal period). What I'm trying to say is, how many weeks was the foetus??

I'm feeling very negative - like I am a bloody idiot for even trying to have a baby at 44 but expect all that will change when i get those bloody egg whites. I am never ever gonna be fooled by these feckin' boobs again !!!

Love to all. Sorry not to name check and sorry once again for not letting you know sooner that was I was not up-duffed.

kiwi good luck for Nov 8th

40some - echo what Hippy said really; FWIW I chose ERPC with MMC1 as baby had reached 12 weeks; with MMC2 baby reached 9 weeks, and I MC naturally (at 12 weeks) waiting for an ERPC slot. With MMC3 baby reached 10+1 and I gave it until 13+1 before I had ERPC hoping to MC naturally, but didn't happen and was moving house and needed it to be over. I don't know much about Ashermanns and refuse to google/get obsessed about something else...! IMO if possible natMC is best, but life is complicated and multi faceted and sometimes you have to compromise. Good luck with whatever you decide, am sorry you are even faced with this horrid choice.

Hippy really sorry :( Arsicles.

Aww gum your DH sounds fab.

BB do you mind me asking is private gynae local? Might have misunderstood your post, but think that ideally the day 21 test is for 7 days POST ov (actually I had mine on day 19)... if you didn't ov til about then your level won't be as high as later IYSWIM?

Hi to everyone - must clear up and get to bed, long day out visiting family and we seem to make as much mess dashing out in the morning and then emptying the car out on return than if we've been here all day... what's that all about...?

Am now in slanket stage... thank the late great Sir Bobby Moore for that... [hgrin]

hi Jolls, yes I'm going to the same one as you!

I thought that the 21 day test was 7 days before your period (which I suppose is the same thing, in theory, as 7 days after ov?). I just went for that date as I have ovulated from day 14-20 in the last few months, so didn't really know which day to have the day 21 test on. But maybe a figure of 38 on the day of ovulation is good then!? Hopefully I'll find out tomorrow.

Hippy I'm so sorry. I'm a couple of days ahead of you, and did feel the same. but after a few days....

40somemum are you any closer to a decision today?

Oh I love you all - it's so nice to be understood ( weepy)

Hippy so sorry you got period. I KNOW so much what you mean about it hitting you everytime - 'why am I keeping trying' but fact is I cant seem to focus on bollocks all else stop

anyway I am only 6 weeks and the same as you v small gs ( depressing) I REALLY want to go natural but to add to my shallowness I want to ttc a s a p and not sure I can sit tight for two more months WAITING....aaargh

Jollster I know it's so unlikely - it's just this darn consultant who we paid to see basically gave us no constructive advice about ttc when 97- aside from DO NOT have d and c

All of you so sweet - i do read and so sorry not to name check you all when your words and thoughts really help me.

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BB I'm there again on Tuesday for bloods. How funny it would have been to be in the waiting room together... :) Haven't been back to E yet, have you had your tongue assessed recently...?

jolls and BB are soo best friends in RL - jealous?? - Moi!

40some why did he say not to have an EPRC ?? Or do i not want to know the answer (cos I've already had one!!!)

BB I know what you mean. I am already tentitively thinking, maybe this month will be different ..... This time last year I got my period on Halloween and thought "oh bollocks" and I was only 2 months away from my BFP and back on May 2nd this year I was really down when i got my period and I was only 1 month away from a BFP.

I think it's the thought that we are possibly only 4 weeks away from our next BFP that keeps us going. I just need a sticky one.

diege How was X Factor for you??? Matt to win (he can sh*g me if he likes - don't tell DH).

40some I was lucky in a way cos I was told at 6 +3 that the sac was very small and appeared to have nothing in it. I was to be re-scanned in 12 days but at 7 weeks I started bleeding full on, so i didn't have to make the decision and I didn't have to wait around endlessly. (the last bit is the lucky bit obviously - not worded well but hopefully you get what i mean).