More ongoing and continuing conceptions and follicling ahead of Feisty, Fabulous Forty somethings

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I've started a new thread!

Hey 40somemum and welcome to the thread, we're the same age (I've had the MCs too, shite isn't it) you'll be in good company here - we've even got our own girlie room to hang out in
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thanks Muchlove and hippy

I am a regular MNer but have name changed for this.... feeling a bit bleak tbh tonight as I feel hope ebbing away...

40somemum I understand how you feel. Some days I feel like it's just not gonna happen for me again. And other times I'm convinced that next it could be me posting news of my 20 week scan.

I find it depends a lot on where I am in my cycle. Hope the ladies on here are able to help lift your spirits a bit over the next few days.

feel free to enjoy our snug.

yes you are right hippy it is most probably hormones making me feel rubbish...

thanks so much for the snug tonight - will be careful not to spill my hot chocolate!

Thank you cheer leading support... I am very proud of my pos opk and have showed it to DH - it is almost as exciting as a pos pg test... well you know what i mean....

Welcome 40somemum.... ooohhh... lots of new people...

Could someone please get pg now!

oh alright,Sassy, if you insist, I'll get pregnant...I can't really say I've any symptoms to report, but I am only 5 dpo.I had a nice high temp rise this morning, but it will remain to be seen if it actually means anything. Had a couple of other symptoms, but I seem to have them every month, so don't want to read too much into it.

I've had a psychic reading that said September would be a good month for getting pregnant, so let's see if she is right. I hope so!

I've got acupuncture today, and we usually chat while she puts in the needles, then she'll leave the room while I rest, which is good, so I can really relax. I never fall asleep, but do feel very relaxed, so I look forward to it.

I've had the needles in all body parts (except for the private bits) over the years, and the ones I find sometimes painful are in my hands and feet. I've had some amazing electric shock feelings when she's put the needles in my feet.I nearly jump off the table, but it only lasts a split second. She says it is opening blocked energy. I bloody-well hope so, cos it is awful! But that has only happened a couple of times.

I'm definitely a convert. I'm sure it helped me get pregnant at 41(I noticed my AF changed - less pain and cramping) and it was really great for all sorts of pregnancy ailments. I don't know if it made any difference to the labour and birth of Charlie, but his birth was much easier than the others and I didn't need pain relief (but that may be because he was baby number 5).

Welcome40somemum and Lottie, this is a very good place to hang out whilst waiting for positive opk's, temp jumps,symptom spotting,and eventually a BFP!

Hippy, I just googled Isle of White and I can see why you dream of living there.It is beautiful. Does it take very long to get there from the mainland?

I really hope you get your new baby and a lovely house on the Isle of White!

If everyone is going to keep doing these alternative therapies... maybe we need some incense and an oil burner...
hmm....

OK, I am being thick - but once you get your pos opk,do you all stop doing them? Or do you carrying on testing to see how long it lasts? Maybe I should just read the instructions

Have to say, I am clearly losing it - as for some reason I keep thinking Hippy lives in Australia, and that beattie and jolly live together, possibly with lunatic ... I also keep forgetting that Gum already has 5 children, so everytime she mentions it want to say... bloody hell, you're ttc #6! That's amazing Gum btw - don't know how you find the energy to shag at all!

Morning All

Well you can carry on testing if you want to SAS but seeing as you are doing 'THE PLAN' (tonight and 2moro night) then it doesn't really matter. It's only really helpful if your charting but the only surefire way of knowing that you HAVE already OV is a temp jump ??? Not sure if your temping though ??
When I had my monitered cycle and a scan on the actual day of OV (bout an hour after it happened) that was the second day of a +OPK.

That' why I gotta feeling this months a bust for me because we only managed the 1st night of the +OPK (well let's say HE only managed the 1st night and I'm still not speaking to HIM !!!) and I know from previous PG cycles that it has to be the 2nd and 3rd night after the possy for it to work for me.....oh well I spose it's just as well coz of my hols in a couple of weeks last thing I wanna do is be abroad and have a chemical again... (muchlove imagines sitting in a hotel room with blaring sunshine and a twinkling sea outside and not being able to go out bcoz she's wearing a bulky sanitary towel that would hang out the side of bikini bottoms )

Ah 40somemum know that feeling well (I am carrying that monkey on my shoulder daily )But if I was in your position I would try absolutely everything in my power/that I could afford to make that baby happen... I have children already and so have only dallied with the natural route and probably won't go hightech/medical ......

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sassy G'day mate it's Hippy here speaking to you from OZ!! Ha Ha - actually I'm in Hertfordshire but from Friday ths week I will be found bumming about on the beach (probably in wellies) on the beautiful west coast of the Isle of wight. How funny that you keep forgetting that gum has 5 kids. Mind you that is a fair old amount of kids - maybe she forgets how many she's got sometimes too

Yes, gum IOW is lovely. Especially the less busy west coast.

I might ask if I can look at the school's whilst there (we don't usually go in term time), what does everyone think??? Can you view a school before you move to an area or will they not take me seriously and tell me to bog off and only come back once I'm a resident?????

sassy I usually do carry on doing OPK's (but I do use the cheapies). they say once you've detected the surge you do not need to do again - BUT I like to see the line go away again so i know I wasn't imagining the surge (IYSWIM). Last month I got 2 days worth of pos - must have caught the surge on the way in and on the way out. I think the main thing is that you are SWI like mad and you know it's the right time - so that's all good. Hoping you get your reward for all this hard work pleasure!

My DH was very sweet the other day, he was feeling a bit depressed (he gets down sometimes which is all related to his childhood and a VERY long story), anyway, he said he was feeling down and wasn't sure he was gonna be up for a a load of shagging. But as soon as I mentioned I woud be ovulating whlst we were away he immediately began discussing whether it would be better to be in a chalet or a caravan and which place would be better for SWI (and not getting caught by the kids). Bless him - he's a trooper. I'm hoping this trip will lift his spirits a bit and I know he would love a little IOW baby too.

40somemum do you have any children already or is this #1 you're trying for???
Glad to see you didn't spill any hot chocolate last night

gum sorry forgot to answer your question. the ferry is about half an hour - 1 hour from the mainland (depending on where you go from). We have to go around the M25 first which means we always have to leave at about 5am (any later and the M25 becomes a bloody huge car park). So it takes us about 3/4 hours in total to get to the island.

As soon as we arrive we put Ise of Wight radio on the car radio and then we all breath out and go, "ahhhhh we're home!" Ohhh getting really excited now!

What bits did you look at on Google?? Have you ever been to the UK?

i don't know why but I thought you were originally from here and had moved to Australia. I guess it's just cos i thought if you were a native Oz you'd be on an Ozzy version of MN. Sorry I'm waffling now........

hi all, just a quickie from work (fnar fnar). Welcome 40somemum. I'm sorry you're feeling despairing. I've also had a mc this year, but am lucky enough to have other children. Have you seen a dr yet about any help you can get?

A quick que about progesterone... muchlove you talk about side-effects - is there anywhere I can read about these? (or do you have more info). The sheet I got with mine didn't mention side effects at all. I had a huge increase in temp this morning (the day after my first dose) which I would have got all excited about if I hadn't read your post. what other side effects are there?

sassy 2 more days to go. Woohoo! I am going to be trying the smep next month, but think my dh is more like muchloves than yours/hippys unfortunately. he keeps referring me to that tv advert about 40% of men over 40 having erectile disfunction!! I have to be soo gentle with the poor love so he doesn't feel pressurised. it really pisses me off all the time sometimes

beattie i think taking preogesterone just increases the usual symptoms that you get during the second half of your cycle. So you get more tender boobs etc and possibly higher temps (as it's natural prog that gives the raised temps in the LP). Maybe muchlove will have more info.

Please note my DH is not that up for it - he might like you all to think he's a stud but he also needs gentle handling . Also he is a morning person and so we often have to move SWI from late at night to a 6 am alarm call I am soooo not in the mood at that time of day!

Day 7 - EWCM. Will do an OPK today, don't want to miss the flippin' egg! Better get that alarm clock out for tomorrow morning!!

Hey BEATTIE I took the suppositories (am and pm) after a very early positive PG test about 4days before AF should have been due, so it would be unfair to quote my own experience, coz I'll never know if the heightened symptoms were bcoz of the PROG or just the PG. BUTfrom what I've read (on various forums) it can give you similar symptoms to PGnancy like Hippy says sore boobs - nausea - raised temps.... but thing is if you do get preggars or are indeed already PGnant it will help you along (apparantly it thickens the womb lining).
Thickened lining I can hold my hands up to bcoz even though that PGnancy with the PROG only got to 5weeks4days the DR/consultant when trying to find an implanted embryo by scan commented on how extremely thick my lining was (yeah I know I had to shed the bugger when I started losing!)
Some things PROG won't do though are:

Give you a false positive
Save a Pregnancy that isn't viable (sorry I had to write that one honey but I stupidly thought is was a wondercure and was badly let down) x

I have got a few weeks supply left over from last loss but feel like I want to keep them until/if I ever get another +test, along with baby aspirin (consultant just recommended it anyway)

HIPPY I was born and bred in Hertfordshire how funny - I moved to London for about 15 yrs and now live on Herts/Essex border- I bet it ends up we went to school together or something

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Oooh yeah forgot to say BEATTIE if you do test neg at the end of 2WW(hope that's not the case - stop taking the PROG and start again after OV of following cycle... but I guess you knew that...sorry just wanted to make sure.... in a kind of Mother Hen way

Thanks for that muchlove I'm glad it doesn't give a false positive and help an unviable - I don't want to be fooled by it. Pity about the high temps and sore boobs though, although that may make my 2ww better -I might put everything down to the progesterone.
I can't do morning swi hippy ds2 wakes up at 6 - I would have to wake up at erm 10 to 6 5am

• too early for me

hello everyone.
wish me luck tomorrow - have scan at EPU.
Not looking forward to it AT ALL - the last time I went there (just over a month ago) I was told I'd miscarried.

The nurses are lovely - I know them from my IUI dates with DS2 - and the hospital is great, but I'm feeling very shaky about it.

Had lots of pg symptoms this week - nausea, headaches and no spotting - but scared to assume anything but the worst.

Too mean to buy another pg test!

Hello ladies, saw this in the free paper we get at station/train in the morning and thought this may be of interest to you.....2 free pregnancy tests but you have to register online tonight by 11:59pm. www.duofertility.com/free-pregnancy-tests

mslucy thinking of you, honey. (((())))

I know what you mean about going back to the place where you had a bad scan. god, if I ever get preg again I am gonna dread going for a scan - the last 2 were pants!!!

Come back and tell us how it all goes.

hello curly - good to see you again.

Good Luck MsLucy I've got everything crossed for you

Hope everyone else is doing ok
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Ah hippychick thanks for the warm welcome

Just watched that programme muchlove. Cherry had a baby. You are right new born babies are just so lovely. I am of course in absolute tears now (always happens when i watch births).

There was a woman of 46 who had IVf but they didn't mention if they were her own eggs. Also the woman of 40 (who looked older than any of us I'm sure) who had a 1/5 chance of downs and also had to deliver early due to her placenta not doing well.

Arrgghhh - why does it all go crap after 35!!!

They also said women over 45 have a 50% chance of a MC. I AM FECKING SICK OF THE WORD MISCARRIAGE! Sorry for that outburst - I'm just pee'd off.

All the other ages they showed seemed to go so well and then they get to our age group and it's all doom and gloom.

Still, 50% chance of NOT having an MC so will try to focus on that.

i have decided not to take my temp this month - 1) cos I haven't bothered starting yet this month (don't temp during period) and 2) cos i'll be in a caravan. I might not even bother with the OPK's - I might just have sex around the right time (caravan willing) - italian will be pleased cos that's what she tells people to do anyway.

How is everyone else???

curly you're welcome. Don't wander off again .

hello again all
this general feeling of optimism is what i need. I DO have children already but don't want to say too much for fear of outing myself!

I have had 2 (3) mcs this year and one other ( and another biochemical one) in my reproductive life before this

have sought help yes... doctor was lovely but said not to bother with anything basically...said IVF pointless as i CAN get pg but need to be able to hang on to them

errr... he did test my AMH at my request and said if my result was below 2 he would advise not to bother trying

oh weep weep pmt weep.....

ooh hippy .....I'll try not to Dh have had a few ups and downs since MC in Feb, I still want another child but not entirely sure he does. However, am cream crackered and need to get to bed but will explain more tomorrow.