More ongoing and continuing conceptions and follicling ahead of Feisty, Fabulous Forty somethings

[Beattiebow]

I've started a new thread!

oh djinnie that's infuriating isn't it... just when you thought you were about to find out - won't it be amazing if you phone on monday and find your'e 2 months pg though!

Thank GG Well I'm confused - I suppose I should have kept using the opks until they went neg - if the pain is before ov it will probaly explain why I'm not pg, as we usually stop once I get the pain

Nothing to be impressed about around not testing... I think I would find it nail biting stuff - I have enuf drama in my life without more.. I've also thrown all the thermoeters in the house away. DD had a fever for a few days before she died, and just seeing them gave me flashbacks... so they went in the bin! I can see how charting might help- perhaps I will pluck up courage and buy one.

Sassy definitely carry on for a day or two after the ov pains I'd say.I'm not sure I'd bother with temping if you're doing the EMS plan - after all, you've pretty much covered every base with constant shagging I can understand why you'd want to avoid thermometers , but fingers crossed this month will have worked anyway x
Well still neg on opk,though line a little darker than yesterday.SWI last night, so at least that means a night off today. At this rate,I'll be having another 33 days cycle like July, although as long as lp is ok I'm not too bothered!

Now I'm worried I'm not shagging enuf

Wonder what would happen if you did it every day???

I read one thread where someone swi 3 times a day to get pg. (once in morning, once in the evening, and once at night time) eeek.

smep sounds ok compared to that!

Honestly that's just ridiculous Can you imagine that? I'll bet it was on a 'legs in the air and we just don't care' type thread

I read that thread too!
Seriously though, shagging every day would probably be quite a good idea, esp if you're not a 100 per cent sure when you ovulate.

Three times a day!!! Good Lord, they must be nineteen and on their honeymoon.I can't even manage twice a day! Maybe that's why it is harder to get pregnant over forty - cos we just don't feel like shagging?

O.k, so I'm sorry I tested early.You are right.It is pointless and has left me feeling sad and down after a bfn this a.m. I got a + at 9dpo with my last baby, so have been optimistically testing early. Now I wish I'd just been patient.

I'm not going to test again until Thursday, by which time AF should have turned up.

I'm curious - how long has everyone been TTC? It's been 5 months for me.Seems like forever because I think I was waiting for the return of fertility for about 7 months before that. So I have to try to remember that it really hasn't been that long.

I have kind of decided that I'll stop ttc if I'm not pregnant by the time my LO turns 3 (Aug 2011). My intention was that he would have a sibling close in age as his sister is 8 years older. Besides, I don't think I can remain optimistic and positive forever!

Has anyone else put a time limit on it?

I did read about a 48 yr old in her third trimester over at fertility friend.That was encouraging. And I have seen charts over there with loads of over 40's pregnancies.

Beattie I had a temp drop too. All this ttc is shit really. Why can't we get a bfp already!?

Oh - hand out these homemade triple chocolate biscuits I made Eat as many as you like Italian, they are virtual - so no calories.

Djinnie, sorry to hear you still don't know what's going on. I hope the weekend doesn't drag for you. ((HUGS))

gum hope your temp drop is an implantation one. But you're right it is shit. I had a temp rise today and got all excited, but af then started to arrive. So I am going to try and avoid temping I think.

I wanted a small gap between ds2 and a new baby. Had I had the one due in August, it would have been around a 28 month gap which was ideal. So I haven't put a time limit on it, but don't want a huge gap. And also don't want this dominating my life for much longer really.

djinnie hope you get some answers soon.

muchlove fingers crossed for you!

I am going to be doing the smep I think, but I wonder whether I need to start at cd8. In the last 6 months the earliest I have oved is CD14 and generally it is around CD19. I don't want to have too much shagging in there really!

I had a mc in Feb Gum so have been trying since then really, although periods took until April/May to get anything like back to normal. For that pg I was only trying a couple of months I think - certainly wasn't obsessed about it then anyway. Seems like bloody ages though, as the clock is ticking and people all around me are getting pg.

Oh well I'll feel optimistic again in a couple of days - 'tis always the way!

sassy you can have a deserved rest now can't you?

Well GUM feeling right there with you hun, had loads a symptoms yesterday and then last night they kind of disappeared and then I had this feeling that Im not preggo STUPID BLOODY INTUITION !!! But I was really tired last night so went to bed early and after a really horrible dream awoke and decided to test BFN ..... But I knew it was gonna be ... just my body playing tricks on me again....
I have also gotten my BFPs at 9DPO GUM so know exactly how you feel... I am on Fertlity Friend too but not sure whether to renew or not when it expires...
I started trying last April/May and fell PG relatively quick (in June) then after that loss it took 6months until Feb to fall again and then I've had 2 early losses since also the age gap is getting too wide now with my youngest
BEATTIE Sorry the 'old cow' showed for you it's crap when all you've got to look forward to is HER showing her face (which is the position I am in now)

So I will prob scrutinize my IC test for a few more hours under various lighting and angles then try and get on with my day ... maybe give DH evil stares coz he let me down this month so he is gonna get the majority of my shitty feelings

DJINNI Im sorry your still in limbo I really am ... why don't you try wearing white jeans or something she bound to turn up then

SAS yeah you did it woohoo now it's slanket time hurrah ...

Love to you all ...... I will be back a bit later after i've gone crosseyed and mental staring at a strip of plastic for a few more hours.... I guess I've just been a purple kinda-girl all my life !

x

Hello all it's horrid when you're body doesn't do want you want it to do and as my GP keeps telling me "where not machines, you have to let nature take it's course blah blah blah". So I feel your pain. My periods finally got back on track to my regular 28 days but that's all been thrown out the window again, due to me having nerve root injections in my back. FFS, I'm tired, hormonal, fed up, can't be arsed arrggghhhh..............(compose myself) hope you're all having a good weekend

I vote that we designate part of the snug for grumpy-old women-ness that we can fill with various shades of lighting for obsessive wee-strip interrogation, wine, chocolate and scampi fries. Also one of those nodding dogs that will just agree when you rant about your dh/dp....
I'm in there today anyway..dh has man 'flu and I feel rotton,but of course I'm 'copying' and putting in on . Just when I could do with his 'contribution'today too.... Teeny bit of EWM,but temp rise today ...it is looking on paper like an annovulatory cycle, what with the see-sawing temps, but I suppose time will tell. What a waste though!
Beattie/Gum I think I'll also be setting myself a time limit,as the whole point of having another was to provide ds with a sibling closer in age than his older sisters..so looking really at June 2011 as my deadline. It's month 7 of trying for me, with dd1 taking 1 mth (ok, I was 3 hrs late with a mini pill so not trying as such ),dd2 1 mth,dd3 5 mths, ds 1 mth..so a def shift for me.
muchlove I feel your pain - try leaning out of an upstairs window for natural light, without catching the eye of the neighbour oppsite . Agree, it is crappy the whole hanging on just for af to confirm what you knew all along.Don't give up hope just yet though.
Curlylox have saved a place for you in the grumpy corner next to me x

hear hear diege......misery loves company you know

Well Curly I may have to love you and leave you in the corner...I've finally got a pos on an opk so am going to have to cunningly start to be nice to dh. This is going to be very hard is he is so in the worng he's in another country . The things we do for a bit of sperm .

beattie -oooh what is smep?

day one for me and most likely another 17 days before ovulation

smep = sperm meets egg plan...
It seems to involve a lot of shagging...

(settles down the snug with a bottle of fizzy rose and a huge bag of maltesers)
I know they don't go togehter... I can't decide... chooclate or wine.....

Hey there! Do you have room for another Feisty, Fabulous Forty something, ttc? Galwaygal suggest hooking up with you. I could do with all the moral support I can get!

(shoves over on the couch)

Yes - plenty of room, come in - help yerself to a beer or a glass of vino from the fridge...

Wot's your story firefiles ?

Morning all. Well, still feeling sad. Obviously I have pms and RTD will catch up with me mid-week I think. It sucks. Tired of the whole bloody thing. But I'm pretty sure by the time RTD comes I actually start to feel optimistic again. My plan to keep busy with a project during the tww isn't working all that well. I spent all afternoon in the garden yesterday, but it didn't stop my mind from thinking about it all. Do I not have any good eggs left???Surely there must be at least one in there?

So, Sassy, was it the malteasers or the bubbly that won in the end?

I did go out for a lovely dinner with friends last night, and had a glass of champas.It was lovely. At least I'll be able to drink on holiday(in a couple of weeks.)

My temp dropped again this a.m. So pretty sure I am out.

I think I might give the opk's and temping a misss seeings we'll be on holiday. But not sure I'll be able to control my obsessive desire to use the thermometer!

Deige, do you think that because we fell preg so easily in the past that it makes this harder? It feels that way to me, though it did take 7 months last time.Now I worry because I'm two years older it'll take much longer.

Oh how I wish I could just "let nature take its course".

Welome fireflies, tell us a little about yourself.

Morning . Well not SWI last night because dh felt so rotton,but temps low this morning so think I might just catch the surge based on yesterday's pos opk if we DTD tonight
Gum yes, I'm sure getting pregnant easily in the past makes things harder in some ways now. That is, if it took on average say 12 mths, then to get to this point (7mth to me)would be simply par for the course?Having said that, the added anxiety of age creeping up might have caused anxiety whatever past pregnancies might have been like. I might be tempted to leave the opks and thermometer at home if I were you,though the old cm could still be something to nicely obsess about! (do you also check cp?I've always been a bit squemish (sp?) about that myself..)
Welcome Firefly you will love it here!Sassy hope that good sense prevailed and you had both the choc and wine - that would never have been a dilemma for me, though if pushed the maltesters would have won hands down.
Dreary, rainy day here. Planning on being nice to dh - well,as much as is reasonable - and trying to get the house into some sort of order.
Oh have been meaning to ask,has anyone actually opted for the VIP fertility friend deal? I am coming to the end of my free trial,and wondering what exactly I've get (left) for free?

Me Me Me (jumps up and down with hand in the air) yes DIEGE I have got the VIP memership (oh she would would'nt she) it's good you kind of get a 'ACCESS ALL AREAS PASS' bit like being a rock chick groupie of the the TTC world
And let me tell you them American gals are so much more advanced than us, thing is over there they pay for everything so they get betas (bloodtests) done at the drop of a hat, injections, progesterone ..... they are a bit more aggressive with their stuff over there - that's where I get all my info from (sht I've been rumbled) and you all prob thought I was an old SAGE
It's not that expensive either but I still not sure whether to renew .....

Can I just say what is with our DH/DPs are they turning into Primadonna footballers or something !!!!! All this too tired/ill crap going on... I've had enough of it ... I think I may threaten mine with IVF or something and tell him 'would he rather do his stuff in a POT in a clinic with a magazine!!!!!' Seriously he sooooo scuppered my chances this month (stoopid idiot)....

Yes 10DPO OV today and have zero symptoms and feeling very pissed off I'm not even gonna test anymore (HA! how do you like that IC PGncy strips)yes F*ckem they can stay in they dark cupboared with the old Nair hair remover kit and last years fake tan and the false eyelashes that I just can't seem to get on straight and end up looking like a drag queen !!

Yes I will just await the arrival of AF with open arms - bless her (see my reverse psychology there) and then I will skip off on my hols and do sod all for a week just totally relax and eat and drink what I like and hopefully come back a new woman with a better outlook on this crazy life of TTC in your 40's....

So It seems we are at the same point in our cycle together GUM so I guess that makes us (as they say on FF) cyclebuddies x Except we have PMT so would prob be grouchy to each other... he he

Welcome FIREFLIES and hope you enjoy our company here

So SAS the countdown begins now eh ? Oh I bet it bloody happens while I'm away .... gggrrrhhh

Love to all

The wine one. My head is a bit sore this morning

We stopped using contraception after DD died in April, and have been activey (iyswim) since May. 5 months seems ages, after getting pg immediately last time. I wonder about the impact of stress on our chances. Immediately after C's death, I spent a lot of time physically shaking, got UTI after UTI and was full of muscular pain from holding myself so tensely. Dr T said it didn't matter - stress can delay ovulation or stop it altogether - but I ovulate and my cycle is regular - so stress should not have any effect Having said that, it's very common for bereaved mums to want ttc shortly after - and I know a lot of young mums who became pg very quickly....

I'm not sure how long we'll go on for, and what we'll try. We obviously don't have the age gap issues some of you have. I do think there's an issue about how much energy you want to devote to all this though...

{{Gumblossom}} sorry you're feeling low - leave the blinking thermometer at home, enjoy your family and your holiday... sounds like you need a month off - you can just do recreational bonking instead... and who knows!

Diege tell yer DH he's a wimp... I mean all he's gotta do is dtd... imagine if women were like that... I'm sorry... I have a bit of a headache, I can't possible give birth/breastfeed/clean vomit off small child..

muchlove we are going on holiday too.. AF is due next Sat, and we are off to France for the week... why is everyone suddenly going on holiday??

gum and muchlove I'm at the same point in my cycle too! But cramps here and spotting this morning means its all over for me this month. Feel a bit better today, although couldn't say I had reached the optimistic stage yet!

Welcome fireflies hope your stay here is short (in the nicest possible way!).

diege my dh is like yours. tired/ill/stressed/backache etc. really pisses me off sometimes. he has promised to try harder this month - smep in fact! - but I'm not holding my breath.

And lucky you people going away on holiday. I have to go away on a work trip this week and be in constant smiley, confident, ambitious, work mode. ugh.

40somemum I am also around 20 days from ovulation. Its a real pain waiting I agree. on the plus side I have nearly 3 weeks before I have to start being nice to dh!

galwaygirl any positive signs from you?

djinnie how are you?

[jolls in case you see this - i am seeing E tomorrow - you're not going to be there then are you??]