MC a while ago and still TTC, Join in the chat, support and laughter in the 6th Form Common Room for a bit before Grads.

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I have the Air Hockey and Ping pong tables on order.
I thought it being the first day of term we should move in and make ourselves at home.

digi - I'm so dreadfully sorry, honey. I hope you're being kind to yourself and that you and DH are looking after each other x

Love and hugs to battery too x

Just bumping us back up, seem to have fallen down the list too far!

How is everyone? digi how you holding up hun? Hope you're doing OK chick x

hippy sorry RTD arrived, mine is on it's way so will be joining you soon enough.

tigger Sorry cycles are mucking you about again and the RTD got you. As for arranging a private appointment I assume you should just try and get the consultant's secretary's number and ring them and keep ringing until you get what you want. If you're paying I presume they will return your call! Good luck and let us know how you get on.

prettymrsg hola, good idea about the break, it'll do you good and like you say you can do whatever you want over Christmas and New Year and it's guaranteed you will be diffed in the New Year having been smashed for most of the festive period and having eaten copious amounts of blue cheese and all the other stuff we're not supposed to eat. Hurrah! How's the hands doing by the way?

Ladybeeboo WTF? You've been told you have FVL which is a contributing factor to mc but yet they won't treat it?! eh? Is there any way of getting treatment elsewhere by being referred to someone else? That's not right surely!!!

battery how did the accupuncture go? I've been having it for the last year or so now and I am convinced it's what got me going again after 1st mmc and I have been super fertile since then as kept it up, I just can't make a bean stick.

Waves to jolls, urd, viv, moo and 8s. Sorry if I've missed anyone, it's because I am lazy just on to get tickets for Kings of Leon at Hyde Park and then off out to walk the mutt.

Fecked right off with TTC and babies at the moment, can't be arsed with it all, it's nearly two years since my first mmc and all I've got to show for it is another 3 mmc afterwards and no baybee. It's bullshit!

Anyhoo, sorry for depressiveness of post, will come back soon with a new wave of positivity

BB you have every right to feel shit my dear. 2 years and nothing to show except heartache is so so unfair. I was feeling bad cos it's been over a year and all I have is two MC's to show for that time - but you've trumped me and I feel humble now . I know I'm so lucky to have my two DS's as well. (saw Madelaine McCanns mum on TV this morning and that made me feel very lucky to have my boys as well ).

BB You are so strong and so determined and, if there is any justice at all - your next little bean will be very sticky. I might be getting you a bit confused with digi - did you say you're gonna use asprin next time you get a BFP as well as her or have you had the test for the sticky blood thing and got the all clear????

Thanks hippy it's crap for us all, it's just so bloody unfair. Sorry for whinging and thank you for understanding. The hospital told me to try aspirin last time so will def be giving it a go from BFP next time. Think digi was going to try it too so no mix up! x

BB don't apologise for whinging - blimey that's what we're all here for. It is so unfair when there are people getting up the duff left right and centre and not even wanting the damn babies.

I think failing to get pregnant or hold on to a pregnancy is one of the hardest things to deal with because it is so out of ones control.

Most things in life can be gained by hard work or saving up or studying etc but this is just in the lap of the gods and that's what makes it so hard to deal with.

Chin up, Mrs. xx

Hello all :)

bb - everyone has shit days -you have every right to have a rant. I feel like it most days too at the moment.... just stuff like planned holidays around when the baby would have been here etc, courses at work that I wouldn't have had to go on because of being pg, but now I will have to go on - its all the plans that are associated with being pg that are sad too - does that make sense?

Acupuncture was really good - I cried all the way there, all the time I was there and all the way back too. Think it was because there was only one reason why I was going and that was because my little beans this year have not stuck :(

Anyhow, the needle lady wants to see me weekly which will be quite pricey - how often does everyone else go?

wave to everyone - sorry not to name check but am worn out today - I have an appointment with my GP tomorrow who wants me to be referred and I will also ask about aspirin then too xx

battery at the thought of you crying all the way there and back. Hope it was cathartic in some way. I found after my MMC in Feb that a good old cry did help get it all out. I don't think i cried much with the early loss in June (I hadn't had such expectations I guess) big hugs to you (((_))) Nite Nite. x

Big squeezes to bb and battery
battery hope viv will be along soon because think she did acupuncture. From memory I think they sometimes like to see you weekly through one cycle, and then they drop the no of treatments down x

Hi

battery, barrenbrook, hippychick hugs to you all. I'm in completely 'meh' state at the moment. I think having gone through all the waiting to get tested, then waiting for the results, then getting a result and having the potentiality for some treatment effectively removed. Well. It's all a bit demotivating.

I want to get pregnant. But I don't think I can stand getting pregnant and losing it and wondering whether I wouldn't have if the consultant had agreed to treat with anti-clotting. I know I have to argue this with the consultant, and I know I probably can build a case for it. But FFS. Frankly, I'm sick to death of things not being easy, for having to fight, for having to research. I would like it to work out in my favour.

DH would look at this post and say, "but so much works out for you, for us, we're lucky". And I expect we are. But it doesn't feel like it right now. I'm on another 2ww and I can't stand the swinging between hope and despair.

I was going to apologise for dumping just then, but actually I'm not sorry, I know that you ladies will understand that I've read your posts and nodded and wanted to squeeze you and I know that you'll do the same to this one. And getting it out will help me a little to go on. Which is what I need to do, isn't it. Just not give up.

Bee - Here is your massive and very much deserved squeeze: {squish}

I know what you mean about feeling meh. I think you're right about going to argue the toss with the consultant because even if they say no, they might give you a good reason why which would at least give you some peace of mind so you can ttc without driving yourself nuts worrying.

{squishsquishsquish}

ladybee when I went to the epu she said if I wanted to keep trying while i waited for testing then if I got pg 'it wouldn't hurt' to take 75mg of aspirin a day from day of bfp. That's low-dose or junior aspirin.

My thinking is this: I have to wait two cycles in order to test for clotting and chromosome issues. It's unlikely I'll get pg in the first two cycles. If I do then the treatment for clotting is aspirin (I've read some docs also prescribe heparin) - it is also something I can safely take whether I know I've got clotting issues or not. The chromosome thing is not treatable. If they find either dh or I are carrying a genetic prob that is causing our babies to miscarry then it is simply a matter of probability whether we pass it onto the next conception. We would see a genetic counselor who would then give us our odds eg 1 in 4 chance of conceiving a healthy baby. In which case I've already had my one healthy pregnancy out of four with ds. We would then weigh up the chances of continuing to ttc knowing how often I am likely to miscarry.

So with that in mind. We're going to carry on ttc, in all likelihood two cycles will pass and I'll have the tests done.

lady You sound how I feel. I had my bloods taken yesterday at my gp for any abnormaliites- the results will take a while to come back. The dr asked if I was going to wait to TTC - until I had been referred. I said no as I see DP infrequently enough as it is - so the chances of us seeing each other at the right time are slim - also if I wait - in the job I am in - I am due to go away next year for 4 - 6 months, without seeing dp at all. If I get pg before that I won't go away. I asked about aspirin too - but no clear answer really. I think I would take it.

I feel a bit low - Dp is home for the weekend, I feel no signs of OV and the next time we see each other is in 2 weeks, so if we miss any eggs in between, that's another month gone- and already in december.

clareanna thanks for the reply - think I will book another appt for next week. Dp said for £35 a go - he would stick needles in me -think he has acupuncture mixed up with voodoo!!

Well I need to and try and look presentable before I pick DP up. Sorry for the crappy depressing post - will try and come back with a better one xxx

So sorry that many of you are feeling ARRGGHHH at the moment.

digi I get your logic. It all makes sense what you've said. You sound like me, I have to work it all out in my head and get straight what the plan is etc.

ladybee you sound so down - sorry, honey. Can you start on low dose asprin if you do get a BFP?

I knew someone who had one child then had 3 MC's in a row. She was waiting to see the consultant when she got preggers again straight away. She decided to take asprin just incase and recently gave birth to a lovely little girl. She says maybe the asprin made a difference or maybe it was just that that pregnancy was meant to be. She'll never know for sure but at least she felt she'd done something.

Here's a hug for you for now ((((-))))

battery As I said on the other thread - get the troops up there and hopefully an egg will arrive in time. Do you have EWCM, if you do then surely an egg is on it's way.

Hello ladies
Sorry many of you are really down at the moment. After what all of us have been through at some time or another it wouldn't be normal not to have down days sometimes.

I'm on the 2WW and desparately trying not to think anything at all which is why I haven't posted much in the last week or so but I just wanted to pop back and see how everyone is. Big squeeze for all who need it esp battery, ladybee, digi and BB

and big waves to hippy, viv, Clareanna, Urd, owl, jolls, magic8s, Mrspretty and moo very sorry if i've missed someones (I usually do)

Big bigmagic8ball hug to everyone xxx Sorry so many of you are feeling down at the moment. Not had a chance to read all properly but will pop by 2morro and be more attentive xxxxx

Popping on to see how everyone is? Mrspretty how are you? how are your hands?

Also popping on to say hello after seeing some sad news on the other mc thread. Hope you're all doing okay x

Re: acupuncture. I had it twice (and sometimes three times) a cycle in the three or four months leading up to my BFP. I'd normally have a session around CD6, once my AF was over; then another around about the time of ovulation.

On the cycle that I got diffed, I had a session on the afternoon that I ov'd and I have to say, I had a very weird sensation when lying on the table that I just it had worked. Probably all in my head, but I never felt that any other times, so who knows!

VivC was it you who used natural progesterone cream? Why did you? and do you think it made a difference?

I'm heading into another AF, depressed and clutching at straws as you can see. Am just about to go order a box of wine. Sort of in the 'light a cigarette and a bus will come' frame of mind.

In other news, I've also booked tickets to see the Peppa Pig live show at christmas time. I guess I might bring DS along too if he's very very good.

Oh hey, hippychick I did some reading on the aspirin thing and I think I will take it if the consultant continues to be an arse. It is one of the prescribed treatments for what I've got, so wouldn't be beyond normal protocol. Tiny ray of sunshine in my stormcloud at the moment is that at least I won't panic about getting a +ve test before my next appointment. So that's something isn't it. Oh and also it's my 37th birthday in a few weeks and I fully plan to be drinking a lot of sparkly stuff and I don't mean water

No, it wasn't me, but I think Caribou might have used the progesterone cream. I'm the zinc and cough medicine evangelist...

Greetings from the other thread

we have just zoomed through another 1000 messages and moved to new digs here.

The list has now reached 60 and become a bit unwieldy!

Are any of these ladies in here? and If so are you still interested in staying on the list?

sillyness
backonceagain
lemonsherbert
and ?KT which i think is a typo not a name
Lottiecrump
Loola2shu
cheepz
pippaandpolly
Honeywitch TTC#1
Curlylox TTC#3
delilahbelle TTC#1
Pinkie08 TTC#3 UCL 30

Also, is Littlemiss in here? She's been on the list with a BFP for a long time.

Hope we dont manage to chop anyone off who wants to stay on like last time, so if you see yourself missing please pop over and pop yourself back on.

best wishes xxxx

Here miss.. still up-duffed, scan Monday. Feeling very worried and like a sack of sh*t quite frankly. Currently 7+6wks

Not sure how I'm getting to and from work each day I could kick myself as I know I shouldn't moan but I'm really suffering at the mo.

How you all doing ladies? love to all x

Heeeeeeeeellllloooooooooooooooooooo!

My bad for not coming out to play for ages, I've been, erm,erm, ver lazy busy.

How are you all?

Clare handies are much betterer now ta, physio is ahem wonderful
I just need them to work on my ankles, back and shoulders a bit instead.

Nowt much has changed with me, starting noo job on Monday, I can't wait!!

Should really try and lose some flab before Crimbo/TTC again but going out drinking dirty beer and being to knacked to cook kinda hinders that.
There has been much celebratings lately and it needs to stop now.

Hoooouge hello and loves to everybodypeeps and I pwomise to try harder and post more.

How's the noo job Mrs P? I'm liking the sound of the celebratings.

Right apologies in advance for the self indulgent post but I just have to tell someone: I'm waiting up for AF. She should have stopped by yesterday but I think she's just taunting me as I've been having period cramps on and off today. No doubt I'm in for a disappointment tomorrow, especially since I just told you all this. For once I don't have any sticks to pee on. Bloody typical

Now that I've got that off my chest, I really am going to bed. Night all

freezing any sign of af today? Did you buy some sticks?

I have a little bit of good news. I initially thought that my clotting test results would take 10 weeks to come back dh badgered the epu yesterday about it, and apparently it's only 2 weeks. I have to wait till my 2nd post-mc period to do the test but theoretically I can go on cd1 and find out the results before I ovulate (cd23 or thereabouts). So if it's normal then we can start ttc that same cycle! Hooray!!! So if this WTF cycle takes as long as last time then I could be looking at ttc from mid-feb.

Fingers crossed for no clotting probs. Although even if it came back normal I think I'd probably take junior aspirin from bfp anyway.

Hope all is well with you ladies.