Just MC and ready to try again? Pack your cake, wine and tightie whities and join us for more ranting, weeping and most of all, laughing. All welcome (Part5)

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Open to all,join us in this corner to support each other,POAS, temp check and reach our BFP goal.
(Fish slapping optional.)

Thanks mummy abroad!!!

Mm DP is now cleaning the house

He is very good to me.

wobble hello and welcome. Sorry you find yourself here and I hope you are feeling better soon. Glad to hear your DP is doing the housework!

Any advice on opk? To prevent myself from doing impossibly early hpt I thought I would POAS just to satisfy my addiction, choosing opk because of no disappointment factor. But have a positive result - six days after the last one. What on earth is going on? Can't dtd tonight just in case, will have to wait till tomorrow so hope this isn't the real ov and last week was just a false alarm cos I was quite diligent last week and DP has been away since. Grrrrr just when I thought I was getting back to normal cycles.

Hi Kat, I od'd a bit on OPK's a couple of weeks ago. Pleased in the end though as ovulation was confirmed by rising temps, so it was all worth it.

IMO:
-OPK's used alone will only confuse you
-You should buy bulk(cheap) and test twice a day
-I think that feint lines progress into darker ones, so keep testing if you get them.

I have decided that my body was spluttering and struggling to pop an egg out for ages but couldnt manage it several times (MC messes up hormones? stress delaying ovulation?) Thats why I kept getting "about to ovulate" signs e.g. darkish lines and pant snot but not very eggy kind (sorry for gruesome details). If I hadnt been temping too I would have gone mad still wondering if it has happened yet or not, so I really recommend you do that too. Equally I would have spent so much money (even on the internet cheapies) if I hadnt started checking my cervix. I didnt use OPK's until I felt it go softer, so that really narrowed it down.

Have you discovered www.fertilityfriend.com? You can input all your data in there and it draws nice colour coded charts for you I did the email tutorials too, pretty useful.

Hope this helps, xxxxxxxxx

Go YRMOTB!! Well done!

Hi Wobble welcome to the mad house, make your self at home but hopefully for not too long! Also, I want your GP, amazing!

Did you lot have the day off work?? Loads of catching up and I was up to date at 8am!!

Kat hopefully someone more qualified will have the answer...I use the digital one with a no argument smiley face because those lines just piss me off!!

MA see comments above to Kat, gawd it's not supposed to be this fecking difficult is it hey?!

SFB Hugs for you.

Nickster one thing for you... >

Cas, BOA and Tam, are you girls lurking? Hope all's ok?

Those coming up to SWI time, I'm living my dreams through you as a) dh still o/s (back for good next Friday...yay!) and b) this cycle they'll be doing my bloods and don't really think it's worth worrying about ttc until they've sorted any progesterone issues! So you you can have my share of baby dust...sprinkle sprinkle!

Waves to all x

thanks - think you might be right about mc messing up hormones. This line was darker than last weeks so maybe last week body was trying but didn't quite manage it. Suppose I won't know the answer until I get AF but it does mean that ttc attempt this month has likely failed. Oh well, at least I am getting the hang of this testing stuff.

A small disclaimer first - not very wise as its my first month temping so I really know FA about this (what I lack in knowledge I make up for in enthusiasm though )

OK Am I using an American BBT themometer or something?? My temps are between 97 point something (low) and 98 point something (high)???
I put all my data in fertilityfriend.com but not sure how to share the graph with you (will try). I have a quite clear thermal shift coinciding with +opk and EGCM. FF did all the hard work for me, drew the coverline and told me when I ovulated (roughly). Thank god, because I would still be squinting at it with a calculator in one had and TCOYF in the other. The crap bit is that I have lots of little hollow circles because I take my temp at odd times (DS crawls into bed and wakes me up)

So in short Izzy, I guess I am saying get on FF and let it tell YOU whats going on.

Sorry bit long winded and scatty today.... symptom I wonder.....?

OK, supposedly if you click on my MN name you can see a picture of my chart. Let me know if it works. xx

Evening ladies, where do i start, busy on here today! Will do it in snippets

My new name is quite simply SPOT OK Folks

Wobble Im so sorry for your loss, no matter how early it is, sad that you find yourself on here but, right that you are in the best company. The ladies on here are top banana! Great that you have a fab GP (mines crap!) and that you have a shiny new flush! Send me a shiny new GP and i will be happy

SFB im so sorry for what you have been going through. Thats tough to endure all at the same time - big pat on the back for being so strong both physically and emotionally. Take each day at a time, it will get easier. You will smile again soon, even though it doesnt feel like it. Spa tone iron supplement is good as it just dilutes in orange juice and you cant taste it. 100% natural supplement also.

Wombat whoop for smiley face, how bizarre you getting it so soon - make the most of it PS hope you love the iphone. Its so simple, if a little boring! I have a blackberry for work and its much more practical for Emailing, but iphone is def much more fun!!!

MummyA are you still widdling on everything in sight? ME also!! Sorry about DH, i hope that Canada gives you some answers Thanks for the lesson on OPK's. The problem i found was that i was looking for a dark line, so of course i saw one especially on the tesco cheapies... and thought i got a positive, but who the hell knows!! Tried cervix checking but need to do for a full cycle to see. I too get 'pant snot' high cervix and twitchiness around day 14 but then also get it again at day 18-20. historically i have conceived DTD on day 18
(two one hit wonders!) so i find it very easy to get mixed signals - will prob all be different post MC anyway.

YROMTB you are heroic!! Awesome that you completed the north run! Sorry i didnt sponsor you - have been bombarded with sponsorship, leaving gifts, maternity gifts ect all at the same time and am skint now! Next time tho definately :)

nickstermum I will send you my lovely GP in the post. You are not having my new flush though.

You lot are making me think I need to get some OPKs for next month-not really sure when I ov, have used the kits before but can't remember much about it. Can't you get cheap ones from amazon?

Going to have my bloods done tomorrow and hopefully book some reflexology just as a nice treat which is also good for the baby-making!!

MamaP.... what the hell is > ?????

Izzy Mc Wizzy Hands off all that baby dust you little tea leaf a new name for Mummyabroad is definately the Oracle and Mamap something similar although i am just trying to think what specifically!

Izz im sure you arent quite dead... are you still typing on your laptop trying to hoover smuggle baby dust out of the craptop? I cant help temp wise, i too must also be dead!

Oooo distracted for a min by the hunk on spooks... dont forget ladies to watch jamies america tonight at 10pm C4. His attempt to make the yanks thin healthy (no disrepect intended to any lovely american!!) Jawdropping last wk!

OK ME ALERT!
blood this morn, just brown. Spotting and lots of cramping! Had nasty tummy all day also. So IMHO its either tail end of MC,(although had no bleeding for 2+ weeks and normal discharge) start of AF but is struggling to get going, or its start of implantation which i think NOT after i did POAS & got a BFN . I dont think i Ov'd anyway, even though we had a couple of shags, the timings dont stack up. So whilst that small glimmer of hope is there of course!..... i am in reality just thinking its blody AF starting but not really getting there -

On a plus i have had a day where i feel like i am back in control [grn]

Kat sorry you possibly may not have caught the eggy.. hope you do though :)

Dachs hope you are getting some rest time and those feet up :) when can you test?

Anyone else i have missed HEY Ladies :)

ok ladies, I am defecting a bit to charter anonymous, at least until I get the technology sorted out, apparently clicking on my name does nada.

Nickster Funny, both my pregnancy's were one hit wonders too. My theory is that feeling super horny is a symptom of ovulation - perhaps we should just be going on that? wait for it, wait for it, wait until you absoultely cant stand it any more..... then pounce!! ha ha.

wobble Yes, get on Amazon, 25 for a fiver

MumA bizarrely i have been 'twitching' all week, and the week before... and now as i sit spotting, its still blinkin twitching ha ha ha ha Sorry ladies TMI

totally agree, thats exactly how i get at OV time

Poor DH's they dont stand a chance do they?!

Hiya - List first...

MONDAY'S LIST

MummyAbroad TTC #2, (MC#1 31 Mar) WTF CD74
StarflowerGirl TTC#1 cycle 2 UCL 28 CD49
Honeywitch TTC#1 Cycle 1 UCL 28, CD44
Pinkie08 TTC#3 cycle 2 UCL 28 CD42
Lottiecrump UCL 27/28 CD35
Curlylox TTC#3 UCL 24-28 cycle 7 CD35
cheepz TTC#2 cycle 2 (round 4) UCL28 CD33
Littlemiss72 TTC#1 cycle 1 (post MC#2) UCL 28 CD 31
Freezingmyarseoff TTC#2 cycle 3 UCL28 CD29
pippaandpolly
delilahbelle TTC#1 cycle 2 UCL28 CD28
LadyBee TTC#2, cycle 1 (round 3) UCL27 CD26
KnitterNotTwitter TTC#2, (round 3) cycle 1 UCL 30 CD25
digitalgirl TTC#2 Cycle 3 UCL41 CD24
PrettyVacant1 TTC#1 Cycle 4(round 7)UCL 28-30 CD23
hairytriangle (Ectopic 2010), TTC#1, Cycle 11, UCL 29, CD23
DachshundsRule TTC#1 cycle 1 UCL28 CD21
sunchild77 TTC#3 cycle 3, UCL 26-28, CD19
barrenbrook TTC#1 cycle 4 (post MC#3) UCL 28 CD19
kat2504 TTC#1 cycle 1 (post mc) CD17
Tigger15 TTC#2 cycle 17 UCL24-9 CD15
pinkfondantfancy TTC#1, cycle 2, UCL 29 CD15
Wombat33 TTC#1 Cycle 1 (post MC) UCL 32 CD15
youremindmeofthebabe TTC#2, Cycle 2 UCL31-38 CD14
velvetcu TTC #1 Cycle 2 UCL 30, CD14
Appleblossoms TTC#2 cycle 3 UCL 34 CD 13
MamaPower TTC#1, cycle 3 (post MC#2) UCL 25- 27 CD12
choccybick TTC#1 (post mc1) cycle 2 UCL 28 CD12
IzzyWizzyletsgetbusy TTC#3 cycle 2 UCL28-29 CD11
Loola2shu TTC#3 Cycle 2 (post nmc#1) ucl??? (PCOS) CD7
Jamface TTC#2 cycle 3 (post MC#2), UCL 27 - 40 CD3
Sillyness TTC#1 post MC1 cycle 1 UCL??? CD???

WTTC
CaribouMoo TTC #2, MC#2 conf Jul 29 BFP!
getawiggleon TTC#2, MC#1 conf 1st Aug, UCL 26
Jollster TTC #2, MC3 conf 16th Aug
Nickstermum TTC #2 MC August
BackOnceAgain TTC#3, MC 17th Aug
Shitforbrains TTC#3, MC 1st Sep
Sarahmia TTC#2, MC2

RECENT GRADUATES
BUnderthebonnet BFP 20 June
Muser BFP 22 June
northerngoldilocks - BFP 12 July
Magic8ballhastheanswers BFP 14 July
Hopefully BFP 22 July
IvySedai BFP 1 August
PenguinsMummy BFP 15th August
batteryhen BFP 18 August
VivClicquot BFP 25 August
Loopymumsy BFP 29 August

OK If anyone is interested you can see my pretty chart here...

www.fertilityfriend.com/home/30b552

Nickster I hate to be the voice of doom, but I had the same kind of bleeding and it WAS the mc still. Take a look at this site which says that you should have 20 days of no bleeding between mc and af for it to count as a real period. Have a look at the bit about recovery patterns to see if yours is going "normally" Did you have 20 days? I sincerely hope your case isnt anything like mine was, but couldnt not say anything. If you are over 20 days its probably just AF having trouble getting started.xxxx

sorry Nickster here is the link

www.pregnancyloss.info/waitingforaf.htm

Nickster I think I read that thread on Friday, was supposed to be working and ended up weeping instead. It's humbling, I think, to see what people suffer and still are able to share and support others. It's one of the things I truly love about mumsnet. There are times it scares me too - I sometimes wish I didn't know that things like that happen. My heart just breaks for anyone who's experienced it.

Hello apples nice to have you back. Well done on surviving the chuggington repetition.

wombat good luck m'dear I'm sure your body will do what it's supposed to do in good time.

So sorry to hear of all the complications you've been through brains

mummyabroad I think you're working in Fahrenheit and I'm in Celsius, hence the vast difference!

Believe it or not, I have been entering my data on Fertility Friend (have downloaded the app - for all those iPhone users- so I can just tap my temp straight in without getting out of bed in the morning then sync it to the website ). Your chart is prettier than mine though and makes more sense, mine looks like a mountain range! Maybe it will all make sense when I finally ovulate.

nickster - keeping my fingers crossed for proper full-on AF turning up so you can move on (or maybe, just maybe, for those BFNs to turn into a BFP and it all turns out to be implantation bleeding)...

Hmm, somehow managed to post half-way through catching up...so where was I

Nickster ..maybe the bleed was ovulation? I seem to recall quite a lot of ladies on here had little bleeds a little after ovulation in the first few months post MC?? Just a guess though.

brains I meant to continue on.. Did you get any detailed information about your problem clotting? Might be worth following up on that if you can - it can be a cause of MC and if you know what the exact issue is, could possibly be treated in your next pg. I echo suggestions for things like floradix or spatone. And generally taking it easy. Poor you, going through all that while on holiday , must have been very stressful. Sounds like the medical centre was thorough with their testing though. Take your time - it's not a race or a test.

Greetings *wobblewatcher" - sorry you're going through this again. I had a similar pattern although in reverse, early MC then DS born in 2008. Then this year had a MMC followed by MC at 8weeks. This thread and others have been lifesavers. I'm also getting tests done before the usual 3 in a row. Am waiting for results at the moment. Glad you have a cooperative GP.

YouRemindMe - well done on the run, not surprised you were achey. I hope it eases tomorrow.

Izz, in a 'classic' normal cycle of temps you'd expect to see mostly low range temps up until ovulation, then you might see a bit of a dip on one day, followed by a steady climb up to your top range for the weeks before your period arrives (or doesn't ). The temp climb happens after ovulation, so it's really just useful for trying to work on whether it's happened or not . Temps might start to dip a couple of days before AF arrives. Your range looks about right - about a 0.4-0.5 degC difference between low and high. I don't 36 is hugely low. My normal 'warm' temp is about 36.6 and my cool one is about 36.2.
But if it's all over the place at the moment, maybe you're still just settling down? Here's hoping you don't get to gather any more cycles to compare, but you might find things get easier to interpret after recording a few.

Right, have to stagger off to bed. I'm wiped out. I wonder whether AF will show her face at usual time...midnight tomorrow

Izzy I have shown you mine can I see yours (FF chart that is!) Dead jealous you can put temps in from your bed. I guess mine would have looked like a mountain range for the first 57 days had I started it earlier. Like you said I think yours will all make sense when you ov.

LadyB that is a very impressive AF prediction!

Right, I have been on MN ALL day, this appalling and a patent example of the level of the obsessive heights I have reached on my first TTC sesh post MC. Owch. Really must make an effort to stop obsessing tomorrow.

Question: What's your opinion on TTC post MC and before next AF?

I MCd end of July, haven't had AF and so and trying anyway....bad move??

BTW, hi everyone! Sorry I haven't been more chatty. Good luck to everyone out there!
(Big hugs all round)

Hi Sillyness,

I recommend you read this to help make your decision. There are a few disadvantages to your plan outlined here:

www.pregnancyloss.info/trying_again.htm

I am "cheating" as it were because I can be sure further complications have been ruled out (I had the tissues after ERPC analysed) and I am charting so that I will have accurate dates and its been 5 months since the mc so I feel emotionally ready.

Its a very personal decision, but having suffered so many complications I would say its worth waiting for AF so you can rule out any real nasty stuff or as I did get to the point where the docs have ruled it all out for you.

xxxx

Thanks Mummyabroad

Definatley (why can't i spell that word tonight?) food for thought!

Silly I am also cheating. My train of thought is that were i lucky enough to conceive the midwives normally argue over dates anyway, and thats the reason that GPs recommend you wait 1 cycle,unless of course you have had additional problems. I also MC naturally, and the article MumA kindly posted talked about EPRC where the lining is scraped thin.

I dont think i have Ov'd though even though we have DTD a couple of times.

Mummya Thanks for the tip. Will check my app in a min to see if i have been blood free for 20 days. I think so, but it still could be retained tissue. had a smear last week, that could have affected things Lady hadnt thought of ovulation. I have however got quite bad cramps and lower backache (despite being up half the night feeling sick.......... )

FFS hit me with the cod so def think its the RTD making its way here.