The Bus Stop - Waiting to TTC (part 3)

[bebejones]

New thread ladies! :)

Old one here

Will go get the list.....

AC, she thinks that you can't give more than 2 children enough attention. Mine have 4 yrs between them and DC3 would be at least 4 yrs younger than DC2, so they are at very different stages and easy to give attention to at different times.

ac i havent looked at ferility friend but have read TCOYF and its just amazing!

i was then looking online for a fertitly chart to print out, and the google search took me to tcoyf website, which has all the charts AND you can do it online, so it draws the cover lines and writes on your fertile times, and safe times (several days after ovulation + first few days of cycle) Its great not to have to worry about if you have drawn your cover line in the right space, or worked it out wrong etc!

as well as temp you need to write in CM info and also cervix hight, softness etc (although i havent done that)

also as i used OPK's i KNOW for sure it got it right

bebe cant believe you have been waiting that long. Agree DH needs to make his mind up and not keep you in limbo anymore

Nannyl - Eeek, countdown to Friday then!!

I must check out TCOYF website then although not sure I like the sound of working out cervix height!!

Strawberry - re BBQ check out Bill Granger's stuff too, he's an Aussie so knows a thing or too about BBQs, sure a googe search should bring some stuff up! I have loads of his books so will try have a look for anything scrummy sounding!
Kiss the Kelloggs sounds hysterical....if a little dangerous!

Whywait - I feel a bit like that re 'we are the ones that make the biggest sacrifices'. It's my body I'm putting on the line, and ultimately I'll be the one doing most of the childcare! So if I feel like I can cope then surely we should go for it! I'd definately say something to your OH, fingers crossed for you, I'm sure he'll 'get it' if you put it like that to him!

AC - pernineal massage is a terrifying thought! Can't bring myself to look at the website just yet! I'm sure I'll be all for it when I get to that point again!!

Drving home earlier I was talking to DH about new supplements I'm going to try etc & he said 'Or you could just stay on your meds...just a wild stab in the dark' (I gave him a look, not disimilar to this ) which he obviously clocked & said 'which I'm guessing I'll get if I mention that again?!' So finally the message seems to be sinking in! It would seem that the biggest worry for him is actually my health. So my mantra is 'I must stay healthy, I must stay healthy, I must stay healthy...'! :o

Eglu - does that mean that DC1 & potential DC3 will have a 8 year age gap? Or have I completely got the wrong end of the stick? Agree that with 4 year gaps the children will require differnt amounts/styles of attention. It's not like having 3 under 3 is it?! I'm sure she'll come round!

Bebe we should have celebrated your anniversary! Echo nannyl: can't believe you've been waiting all this time - I take it you had already been waiting before you got to the point of wanting to join a thread about it as well! I wonder what's happened to everyone else. Wasn't legallyblonde on our thread originally? I remember her getting her bfp and she must not be far off having her baby by now. Along with countless others! I remember somebody getting a bfp just after I joined and me saying that when she was having her baby, I'd be just starting to try.

Eglu I suppose what your mum is saying is not that different from what you see people saying about having DC2 all the time on here, i.e. how will I possibly have enough love for them both etc. Presumably 2 is the number of children she herself had? I would have thought given the age gaps that it wouldn't be such a concern. Also what about all the additional time and attention they will give each other for the whole duration of their lives?!

Nannyl I read TCOYF after completing the Fertility Friend course and they are pretty much the same. I am going to check out the TCOYF website, if you can use their tracking method to prevent pregnancy then I'm definitely interested.

Just had my DM on the telephone, telling me some old schoolchum of my sister's is pregnant, and asking pointed questions about how DH had liked having my godson to visit. DM likes to think that she and I are engaged in some conspiracy to persuade DH to have a baby. From my point of view it's just me trying to persuade DH, and DM trying to persuade DH - but separately!

Hi everyone,

Thanks for the welcomes.

Quite a few posts, so I hope I don't miss anyone out.

Jbells, thanks, well done on your loss so far, I know what the last few pounds are like, been there in the past!

Amanda, thanks for the welcome. Yeah in one way it's scary, in another way it's like the best thing that I could possibly do and do with my lovely man. Seen a couple of babies born and close for another couple of births as I was a birthing partner for someone and so no need to watch the videos. It's really really amazing what happens. And the best feeling in the world to have been there. :)

Thank you WhyWait, I'm looking forward to spending time chatting.

Nannyl I dream of getting a BFP and we aren't even trying!!! I'd quite like a baby who would start school in the higher age end of the year as opposed to being the youngest, don't know why, not backed up my reasoning with anything really!!! But that's not the reason we are waiting!

Anyway I've had a busy day and not on here for long. But I will be back. Weigh in day tomorrow, I'm counting down the pounds and weeks till we hopefully TTC!!! I have it planned out in my head LOL

You're lucky to have witnessed a real birth, the video ones are obviously cut, you wouldn't watch continuously for 36 hours would you, so you don't know how it's been edited together - to look worse overall than it actually was, or to look better?

I must admit I do feel very lucky to have been there, privileged to have been asked to be there. I might watch a video and see if it's anything like what I saw and if I do I shall report back.

Bebejones, yes and 8 year age gap. I know it doesn't suit everybody but I really like my big gap.

AC, yes my Mum had two. I know she will be fine once baby is on the way and when she has a lovely new dgc to cuddle.

AC - I knew it had been long but had no idea it had been over a year! :( I saw loads of names on there of people who were waiting. I'm fairly sure that alot of them are PG or have already had babies! So there is hope for us all!

100years - I'm not even sure I could watch or be at a birth & I've 'done it'!!

Nannyl I've copied all my charting data into TCOYF online, which is showing pretty much the same results as Fertility Friend. Not sure if I'm ready to rely on it for contraception yet!

Bebe I might have a look back myself and see who I recognise.

Gonna go check out TCOYF online now! I must check the library for the book!

Fertility Friend says this:

"The principles of chart interpretation for pregnancy avoidance and pregnancy achievement are significantly different and unfortunately not just the reverse of each other. Using any of FertilityFriend.com's chart interpretations in reverse will not work and will put you at risk to get pregnant. Avoiding pregnancy using fertility charting is a different approach altogether.If you plan to use fertility charting (or Fertility Awareness) to avoid pregnancy we recommend that you get in touch with a Natural Family Planing or Fertility Awareness counselor and get a specific training for that purpose."

Won't it be just the same for TCOYF?

TCOYF keeps crashing and wont let me register! Was looking at the pictures & saw one of a BFP which said they were using TCOYF to prevent pregnancy but were without internet & got their cycle messed up Really not sure I would trust charting as a birth control method on its own. But I guess for me it's a really big deal if I get PG by 'accident' so think I'll be sticking to the condoms!

Are you clicking on the beta test link Bebe? I was doing that at first and it kept crashing - but then I found another login link on the home page.

I went there first too but then found the 'normal' one & that wouldn't work. Will try again today, although I think it looks pretty much the same as FF.

Really not sleeping properly at the moment. DD is suffering from night terrors & it's got me & DH on edge :( Feel wiped today & it's only just begun! Maybe I'll have to sneak a little nap this afternoon :o

morning all- just to comment on the watching birthing stories

in my last few wks of pregnancy i was obsessed with watching programmes on people giving birth dont know wether it made me feel better or worse lol, in the end mine was worse than the ones id seen anyway hehe, to be honest i still watch them now and again now makes me feel quite emotional as takes me back to day dd was born

bebe- wow didnt realise u had been waiting so long :( hopefully once u stop taking your meds the ball will start rolling :)

100years- how did you get on at weigh in today?

eglu- there are lots of people with bigger age gaps between there kids these days, u just have to go with wot suits u, im sure your mum will come round, my mums not keen on me wanting dc#2 says i shud wait longer itl be really hard work bla bla bla, but at the end of the day its me that will be looking afta them more or less full time, agree with bebe saying its my body who will be going thru it and i will be doing most the child care so shudnt my dp listen to when i want the 2nd child, especially considering he works most the time anyway, cant remember him ever really having DD on his own maybe once or twice

JBells - I think the most DH has been with DD on his own is about 3 hours!! And he thinks it's hard work when there are 2 of us, moans about nappy changing & meal times & gets cross when she covers herself in food! If I want another one when I do it apretty much all day every day then that should be what counts the most. We can back each other up you and I!!! :o

Turns out DD has woken up with a cold, great! Just what I need, I must not catch it!

lol, yeah definately lets get them online u can tell my dp and i will tel your DH haha, the longest my DP has had DD on his own was 5 hours on my mums bday and he even had a moan about that, i was furious i do it all day everyday on my own, dont c how another dc would really change his life apart from maybe a lil financially and at wkends, but i always do bulk of work at wkends to.

oh dear sorry your DD has woken with cold, my DD has had 4 wks of chest infections they think she has asthma but cant diagnose this early :(

Morning everyone! Thanks for the BBQ tips whywait and bebe!

2lb loss this week! Yey....6lb ish to get to my target

am at work so got to go, bye!

JBells - Your poor DD, I can sympathise completely. My DD has cold after cold & has had 3 really nasty chest infections in her short little life. They gave her an inhaler before when her breathing was so bad but wouldn't formally diagnose asthma as she was too young. Now she is 2 we shall see what happens this winter. Dreading it! :(

Strawberry - well done on the 2lbs, I put on 1lb this week! Boooo!! Back on soup & ryvita for me this week!

Going to Holland & Barretts later to stock up on more supplements. I really am going to start rattling! :o

jbells, today was disastrous, I am showing a slight gain this week, worked really hard last week, but I should be really really pleased with what I did as opposed to letting one little thing get me down. Not getting on the scales for a fortnight, but will keep up the exercise and look at how my clothes fit. Had a chat with OH and he said it doesn't matter what the scales say if I have worked hard and exercised it will still happen. In my head I was putting a lot of focus on being a certain weight, as opposed to the work hard and get fitter etc.

wow well done strawberry :)

bebe- yeah my lil one has inhaler drs advised me to give it to her 5 times a day but i just give it to her when she needs it really, ive found with DD when she started nursery she just picked up one illness afta another :( but then u go the drs now and they say better they catch it sooner than later, hmmm not sure of that one

Morning ladies!!
I am back in the office :( and can finally check the thread. Just had to copy and past everything from when I went away into a word document so I can read and reply whilst at work!! I've got 35 pages to get through so it seems you ahve all been very busy tapping away on here!!

Will write properly again once I have read through everything but DH and I did have a chat whilst away. Will update all later but just wanted to drop off the "back from holiday gifts" Raki and Turkish delight all round - yummy!!!

Yum I love turkish delight....scoff scoff scoff! :o
Hope you had a lovely time JS? Welcome back! :)

JBells - we only give DD hers if we feel she needs it, not sure it makes much of a difference TBH

100years - don't forget muscle is 4 times heavier than fat. If yoru clothes fit better it may be that you have gained muscle and lost fat IYSWIM? Don't get too down, I gained this week too! (But I have been very naughty & eaten too much cake! :o)