If Carlsberg did threads.....this would probably be the best thread in the world! Return of the first time frolickers - home of pornstar cocktails and lots of lovely ladies, come on in and join us

[MrsWajs]

Oooh I did it!! Here's the shiny new thread...

For anyone trying to conceive their first child, everyone's welcome.

Oh and ERTD will now be known as FERTD, I'm sure you can figure it out!!

Wednesday's List

evilgiraffe TTC#1 Cycle 2 UCL 28?! CD187
Saor Alba TTC #1, cycle 2 UCL32 CD37
Crazybutterflylady TTC#1, cycle 1, UCL30, CD34
Mrs Wajs TTC#1 cycle 11, UCL 29-33 CD32
Pinklady76 TTC#1, cycle 1, UCL ?, CD29
IfAtFirstYouDon'tSuceed TTC#1, Cycle 4,UCL 28, CD28
Alien06 TTC#1, Cycle 1, UCL??, CD26
kkas TTC#1 Cycle 12 UCL32 CD25
RaspberryTipple TTC#1, Cycle 1, UCL ?, CD23
LankyLegs TTC#1 Cycle 10 UCL 27-29 CD22
cookiemoo TTC#1 Cycle 17, UCL 27 CD22
TomboyWife TTC#1, Cycle 8, UCL28, CD20
GardenPixie TTC#1 cycle 8 UCL30-35 CD20
Womanlytales TTC#1, Cycle 5, UCL28-33, CD19
FelicityFlick TTC#1 Cycle , UCL 32-33, CD16
Florin TTC#1 Cycle 5 UCL ??? CD15
Karstan TTC#1, Cycle 2, UCL28, CD14
stegasaurus TTC#1 cycle 16 UCL? CD12
highheelsandequations TTC#1 cycle 13 (ish) UCL 32+ CD11
Zippys TTC#1 cycle 14 UCL33-39 CD6
Ariesgirl TTC#1 cycle 6 UCL 29-32 CD6
cherrycobbler TTC#1 cycle 7 UCL 32 CD2

Not counting days
Kaloki (39 days to Wedding )
Bellaby
Miffles
Kurlyvoice
Chalky3

Waiting to TTC
Calyx
Sevans
CaveMum
calligraphy82
hairytriangle

Recent Graduates:
Seablue BFP 1 May
Oneof8 BFP 18 May
Aly323 BFP 20 May
applecharlotte BFP 29 May
papertiger BFP 31 May
Wannamummy BFP 1 June
Pipsicles BFP 6 June
Muser BFP 22 June
Superpenguin BFP 1 July
Haloflo BFP 22 July

Tigerseye I'm exactly the same! Just ask PinkLady how much of a control freak choosy I can be (she was my chief bridesmaid)

I'm just hoping that all this pre-ttc effort I am putting in will help get things moving quickly. I've been off the Pill since mid-May and have been taking my Pregnacare Conception pills ever since. Have also cut back on the alcohol, am eating ultra-healthy and have now started on the old Agnus Castus to try and get my cycles regular (post-pill cycles: #1 28 days, #2 36 days, #3 45 days and counting )

Just hope that DH's job news is good for when we get down to ttc in the next month or so.
To quote Friends, we'll be having the most organised sex ever!

Come to think of it, DH and PinkLady often refer to me as "Monica"

Kaloki we have girl rats. When we got the first ones about 5yrs ago we wanted boys and the pet shop told us we had bought boys but they turned out to be wrong! We have had some lovely girls over the years though.

MrsWajs hope you're feeling better soon. Sounds like a horrible bug.

Kkas Wow, your GP sounds good with online appointment booking and reasonably quick appointments. I first saw my GP after a year of TTC. Nothing happened in the appointment. I told him about not getting pregnant and my non-existant cycle, and he said he would refer me to the hospital. He wanted to do day 21 bloods but it was months since my last period so I got them done on a random day. That was it. Hope your appointment goes well.

Gardenpixie I've taken 2 cycles of clomid so far and haven't noticed any side effects. Maybe more moody/ emotional, but it's been a crazy couple of months with new job and new house and other stuff going on so not sure if that was the clomid or just life getting on top of me. I've not really had any monitoring while taking it. I've had day 3 blood tests for hormone levels and will have day 21 bloods next week. Should have had them on the first cycle but was on holiday and the doctor didn't seem concerned when I told him. He did mention a 'dye test' at the appointment but I've not heard any more about this. First appointment was in June and next one is in October with no monitoring except blood tests in between. I've learnt from some other threads on here that other people are having a lot more monitoring with montly bloods and regular scans etc.

Sorry this is so long. Have been working nights over the weekend so not had time to read and reply much here, so suddenly there was lots to say!

Thanks stegasaurus that's really helpful. Is the dye test your dr was talking about an HSG or hycosy? I am a bit confused because lots of people I've heard from only have those after three months of clomid but I had a hycosy before getting the prescription

Good thing is I am normally fairly moody and hormonal so hopefully there shouldn't be much change!

tigerseyemum I am exactly the same... I just want it NOW. We always said we would wait until we'd been married a year, then we thought wait until after my 30th which was in July (I selfishly wanted a party :))... because we have been waiting for The Right Time I am now the most impatient I have ever been. I keep browsing nappy bags and pushchairs etc online: o-b-s-e-s-s-e-d.

Glad I am not the only one... I am sure we will all get our BFPs soon... everything crossed!

garden if Jenson put you off I hope you never see Mr Crazy after a triathlon... there's not much about him that stays dry!

x

Oh Crazy I am now having to stifle enormous howls of laughter and pretend I have really bad hayfever ...!

I have to admit to being a bit of a control freak more organised than others as well. This must be the thread for them!

On other matters thought I'd share my afternoon's achievements. Went to the doctors this afternoon, on a non ttc matter for once, she mentioned something about stress and I said that we were ttc and prompltly burst into tears. In the doctors office. In front of this doctor I have never seen before. So embarrassing. I just keep thinking that if ttc has me this emotional I'm going to be a wreck if when finally pregnant, people will be avoiding me as I turn into a mad bird who keeps crying into the butter.

I am not alone then. Hoo-ray and fa-la-la. Hope we all get what we want soon.

I got excited earlier. I craved - yes craved - a banana and nutella sandwich. I hate bananas with a vengeance.

Maybe it's a sign....

highheels have a hug. My friend made nice noises to me on the phone the other day and I found myself pretending I had a cough. It's not easy.

Oh highheels don't worry - I am sure the Dr knows how draining, upsetting and stressful TTC is. There's something really disarming about being asked about stress as well ... bound to make you teary.

Are you OK? x

Tiger I have that question everyday -- Off late I am really grateful that it's gotten softer..and I can go do something with my life. A friend over the weekend told me to make sure that I actively pursue my interests to help me cope with the bfp blues.
My most annoying point is when folks I know get pregnant by accident...I just can't interact with them post facto...and it disturbs me that this journey that I am on pains me so much that it keeps me from genuinely being happy for folks who get pregnant without having shared the frustrations I have...I mean, how mememe is that really!!
mrswajs hope you feel better... I have still all my fingers crossed for you.
butterfly good job on getting out to the gym - I made it for my jog in the morning too and feel great about that :)

Thanks garden and Tigerseye for your kind words, I will be am fine. Nothing a hot bubble bath and a glass of wine won't fix. Oh and got my amazon parcel whilst I was out so I can read my brand new copy of The Fertility Diet in my bubble bath!

Oh tiger I don't just have the urge I have actually stomped my feet to dh and said it's not fair. It is a very frustrating business, it's driving me mad. I have just turned 27 I thought age was on my side but at the moment it doesn't feel like that!
Now must go check out that picture of jensons sweaty crotch!
Must be time for a cocktail already today seems to have gone on forever!

Florin thankyou for your welcome - am usually v calm and unarsed reasonable about things, but it really is genuinely a relief to feel 'normal'- going mad on my own as am a big talker! Kind of find myself on the outside of all friends, not with the non-ttc gang but not with the new parents/preggers lot either.

We also haven't told anyone we are ttc (sort of knew before that there would be problems and couldn't bear the pressure and sympathy, just wanted to see what would happen having a lovely normal life and just sh*gging for a year!). NOTHING, is yer answer lol.

Has everyone else told others that they are ttc? Am not sure what I would advise. Have told best friends we are starting to try in a few months, but haven't told family at all. Upshot of this is the 'Oooo when are you two going to get on with it?' and the best 'Ooo now you're holding her (new family baby), I bet it makes you think twice about being so career-orientated, eh?'

Can't blame them, but...
Also love that the last comment makes me sound like super-cool career woman

I haven't told anyone we are TTC - I just didn't want the stress tbh. And we are constantly being bombarded with my parents wanting a grandson and my PIL wanting a grand daughter. FFS we have a cat (female) and a dog (male) - you'd have thought they'd be happy with that. Pah.

Also gutting when peole BANG on about not leaving it too late to have kids. Oh I'm so sorry I didn't find my ideal man when I was 18 and marry him so I could have a litter of kids by the time I was 20.

Selfish me getting a career and all

And for not marrying one of the many losers I went out with before meeting DH (seriously - the best one was the buddhist gardener who sat around all day playing with his f*ing ankle bells - REALLY good father material).

Grrrrrrrr

Ooooooh, sorry for enormous rant !

TanteAC we've only told 2 people (and their partners know by default) that we are going to ttc. One is my lovely BF PinkLady (who seems to be MIA at the moment!) and the other is a lady in my office who is a kind of second mum. I feel a bit bad that we haven't told our parents (no issues with them, just can't hack the pressure!) but thankfully they've not made too much noise yet.

MiL did make one comment that I found suspicious - she asked me out of the blue "Do twins run in your family?" I thought it was a not-so-subtle grandchild comment but DH thinks I was reading too much into it! My mum is a twin, I have twin cousins and my dad's father had twin siblings so I guess they do run in the family

Pixie I see your Buddhist gardener and raise you a twt-faced, no good, cheating knb!

Remember him PinkLady?!

[determined to get her to answer me!!!]

[snorting at f**ing ankle bells emoticon]

I have told a good friend who lives miles away and who I rarely speak to, but apart from that I have told no one, as I have endo I get a lot of the 'So and So has it and they managed to have a baby, you never know...' etc etc. As well as the 'Your turn now' or 'Getting broody yet?' comments from those who don't know I have endo, and what annoys me most is the 'Oh you have loads of time yet, maybe when you're older...' well actually I am almost 37 and really in most people's book that isn't 'loads of time'.

It's amazing how much pregnancy pops up in casual conversation - due to the endo I get hormonal symptoms (sickness, dizziness, tiredness etc) and so many people say 'Are you sure you're not pregnant?' just without thinking, I suppose unless you have experienced infertility at close hand you assume everyone can conceive at the drop of a hat.

It's not their fault, but it is annoying, to say the least.

[giggles] Don't think I can beat the buddist gardener garden, but I think I've met the brother of your knb cavemum*

just read that and realised it sounds a little dodgy!

Thanks for the warm welcome ladies :) It's definitely nice to feel normal again! All our friends are still at the thinking about geting engaged stage so none of them really got it when I started to get broody. We're in our mid-twenties, so I suppose by some standards that is pretty young, but we've been together since we were seventeen so we're hardly rushing it!

As for telling people, I will tell my best friend when next I see her (we live the best part of 150 miles apart) but then she's been with me through meeting my husband, getting engaged, getting married and becoming a baby obsessed she demon who twitches everytime someone says "Changing bag", so I'm pretty sure she can take the heat :)

Well, bastard AF arrived very dramatically this morning, cramps were so bad I was sat on the loo crying, nearly being sick and couldn't move for 10 minutes then they went and AF arrived just after lunch. its probably PMT but I am actually feeling very sad, yesterday I found out my cousin (distance but still) had a baby girl. I know I shouldn't feel bitter but the girl is one of life's losers and has never achieved anything in her life and is going to need a lot of support to bring a little one up because to be honest she cant even look after herself and the whole family is like 'aww, that's so nice, its a baby after all'. WTF kind of attitude is that to have. Sorry, I'm just angry and bitter because I'm jealous. I know I shouldn't be judgmental and I'm a bad person for it but I could just cry. Tried for 7 months last year and starting again this year..... its just so frustrating when other people seem to just sneeze and end up pregnant. Its not fair and Im going to sulk, and drink wine.

Evening ladies!

Welcome to the newcomers and so sorry to hear you're poorly MrsW. Any improvements over the course of the day?

I've still got the weirdly sore boobs, am feeling faintly sick by spells, but also feeling very pre-menstrual. Crampy, tired, crampy, more crampy. Not holding out too much hope for this month any more.

Lol@anklebells and other unsuitable father material! Been there, tinkled that...

Yeah feel a leeedle bit guilty not telling DPs and PILs, too. My DPs wouldn't say anything, but DH's are all over the hinting already and so I can't be arsed with their concern (which sounds harsh, I know, but it's enough dealing with your own emotions, surely?!).

They have this fantastic notion that we are high-rollers who think a baby would be the end of our champagne-sipping power couple networking. (much as I would love to continue this image on mn, am actually a teacher and drink anythng on offer if in the mood!)

Every time they offer me glass of wine, my acceptance brings a disappointment.

IMO they should have more sense than to pressure anyone like this, never mind someone they knew from the past would have trouble ttc!

Gawd my posts are getting long - off to uncork another bottle of champers! Sorry
PS fingers crossed for you TomboyWife

TanteAC I feel your pain. My mother has taken to asking me point blank if I'm pg, if we're trying to get pg, and if we're having trouble getting pg. I generally answer as simply as possible and then change the subject. I should probably just deny everything for the moment, but I'm a rotten liar.

Parents, eh? (Well, actually, my dad has made it clear that until such time as we raise the subject he'll consider it none of his business, so it's not all bad round our way, but still...)

raspberry I am so sorry to hear that. Don't be down on yourself for feeling grotty about your cousin - totally understandable. It simply isn't fair. I know there's not much I can say to make it better but am pouring you a drink if that helps?

Dad's are much better at this, aren't they TomboyWife? My sister is pg with her first and dad won't even mention it apart from touching wood in a delighted way now and again. (Bless)

And he was stunned (and over the moon) to find out she was even pg, as if such a thought had never occurred to him about either of us! Like we are teenagers! (She is 35, btw!) Loved him for that, like we are all happy and complete in his eyes but a baby is a lovely blessing...

I don't mind excited 'ooo it could be you next!' comments from friends of parents or random relatives (grates, but y'know, whatever). I do mind pointed comments of expectation from people who should know better. F*ck off. (have actually had a large non-virtual drink now lol uncharacteristic aggression there)
pixie have you thought of asking them to babysit cat and dog whilst we are in this vvv important meeting?