If Carlsberg did threads.....this would probably be the best thread in the world! Return of the first time frolickers - home of pornstar cocktails and lots of lovely ladies, come on in and join us

[MrsWajs]

Oooh I did it!! Here's the shiny new thread...

For anyone trying to conceive their first child, everyone's welcome.

Oh and ERTD will now be known as FERTD, I'm sure you can figure it out!!

Wednesday's List

evilgiraffe TTC#1 Cycle 2 UCL 28?! CD187
Saor Alba TTC #1, cycle 2 UCL32 CD37
Crazybutterflylady TTC#1, cycle 1, UCL30, CD34
Mrs Wajs TTC#1 cycle 11, UCL 29-33 CD32
Pinklady76 TTC#1, cycle 1, UCL ?, CD29
IfAtFirstYouDon'tSuceed TTC#1, Cycle 4,UCL 28, CD28
Alien06 TTC#1, Cycle 1, UCL??, CD26
kkas TTC#1 Cycle 12 UCL32 CD25
RaspberryTipple TTC#1, Cycle 1, UCL ?, CD23
LankyLegs TTC#1 Cycle 10 UCL 27-29 CD22
cookiemoo TTC#1 Cycle 17, UCL 27 CD22
TomboyWife TTC#1, Cycle 8, UCL28, CD20
GardenPixie TTC#1 cycle 8 UCL30-35 CD20
Womanlytales TTC#1, Cycle 5, UCL28-33, CD19
FelicityFlick TTC#1 Cycle , UCL 32-33, CD16
Florin TTC#1 Cycle 5 UCL ??? CD15
Karstan TTC#1, Cycle 2, UCL28, CD14
stegasaurus TTC#1 cycle 16 UCL? CD12
highheelsandequations TTC#1 cycle 13 (ish) UCL 32+ CD11
Zippys TTC#1 cycle 14 UCL33-39 CD6
Ariesgirl TTC#1 cycle 6 UCL 29-32 CD6
cherrycobbler TTC#1 cycle 7 UCL 32 CD2

Not counting days
Kaloki (39 days to Wedding )
Bellaby
Miffles
Kurlyvoice
Chalky3

Waiting to TTC
Calyx
Sevans
CaveMum
calligraphy82
hairytriangle

Recent Graduates:
Seablue BFP 1 May
Oneof8 BFP 18 May
Aly323 BFP 20 May
applecharlotte BFP 29 May
papertiger BFP 31 May
Wannamummy BFP 1 June
Pipsicles BFP 6 June
Muser BFP 22 June
Superpenguin BFP 1 July
Haloflo BFP 22 July

Yes, I'm fine, no great surprise it didn't happen this month, ovulated early and had a mad rush to get the SWI in.

I've got a holiday to look forward to in about 10 days, so can enjoy that as much as I want now. Hopefully will come back all relaxed and refreshed and ready to try again. (We won't not be trying whilst away, just there may be limited opportunities as we're camping for some of the time and staying with the inlaws for the rest).

Although if I ovulate day 10 again then there may be a opportunity or two just before we go

It's just a bit annoying that, like so many others here, my cycle seems to have gone to pot since starting ttc-ing. Before I was pretty text book, 28 day cycles and ovulating on day 14.

In a way it's good that AF came early, I was starting to think I must have got it wrong as CD 10 was too early to ovulate but it makes sense that AF would come early too after that if luteal phase was consistent. So I'm at least picking up on the signals right.

Thanks cavey I have sent a request which they send on to you or something. All VERY secret squirrel.

Karstan :( bloody FERTD. Still at least you gave have a bottle glass of wine tonight. And have an extra glass from me because I just saw your post in Conception about Multivits. I have been taking Multivits with Iron because I had anaemia for a while and like to keep my levels topped up. But mine have Vit A in. So I'll stop taking them.. thank you!

Hi everyone else.. and bye... off to do some cat like stretching x

Karstan sorry to hear about FERTD at least you have a holiday to look forward to, to keep your mind off it, have a glass of wine to perk yourself up.
I want it to be friday I really want to test, but I have decided Friday is the day so I am sticking to it.
I also feel so fed up in my job so want to be counting down to maternity leave. My job sounds quite glamarous because of the type of company it is but actually the work is dull dull dull. Feel rather stuck there as don't want to leave while ttc and hopefully my bfp will be soon making it pointless and also don't want to risk my maternity pay.
I sit at work but day dreaming about being one of those yummy mummy floating down the high street in beautiful clothes and baby in beautiful clothes all tucked in their pram with nothing to do but meet a friend for lunch and plan dinner for dh and i. I know this may be an unrealistic view of motherhood but heh I can dream can't I!

Florin I am sure that is EXACTLY what motherhood is like. Floating around in white dresses (not covered in sick or poo) sipping prosecco with one's friends in fancy cafes as the babies sleep and are otherwise perfectly well behaved.

And obviously looking fantastic after nights and nights of full and restful sleep with plenty of time to look after one's make up and hair.

And having an awesome figure after doing tons of baby yoga with compliant, quiet and fully cooperative baby.

Right everyone?

Mmm interesting cavemum about CAT ...never scrolled that far to see that option.
garden Thanks for again all the information -- I have no idea what type of PCO I have..all I know is that I have PCO... Another question I've added to my list with my specialist on Weds.
karstan Sorry about ERTD showing up. I will be joining you on the list shortly.

I have had a miserable day... eating like crazy! Luckily I have stuck to the low gi stuff just went crazy on portioning.. That's my struggle - the portioning. Except for chocolate, I think I've been on a low gi diet all my life and yet...it's the portions that add up to my current weight issue.

Good luck to all testing this week.

garden soooo funny! i think we all want that image to be true! floating down the street with flat tummy and sleeping baby! hope it's true! my friend had her first recently and she said she never saw so much poo/sick/milky sick and farting from one tiny baby! i almost fell off the sofa laughing when she said that! Bless! What joys await us!

karstan Damn that sneaky FERTD but like you say at least you are getting the signals right. look forward to the SWIing in a couple weeks but right now heres a very alcoholic cocktail with a big sprinkle of pink baby dust on it

lanky Did you get to the gym? I went swimming tonight so i feel pretty good. did my lengths with my tummy sucked in! Have a bar of the evil chocolate staring at me now as i hide round the corner peeking at it sneakily!

Evening all,

Well back to work for me today and it was painful getting up so early! I could actually have had a little lie in as I had to go and get my blood taken for my day 23 progesterone this morning and so go in a little late for work. Now I just need to cross my fingers that this cycle will finally give me good results. So today I have had cramps this afternoon, actually feeling a little like FERTD might arrive, and quite a bit of creamy CM (sorry for TMI!!). I also felt sick after my coffee at break time. And in the gym this afternoon I didn't push myself too hard then lying on my front in abs made my boobs hurt. So even though I am (I reckon) only 5-7 DPO and it is way too early of course these are all signs!!! Would love for it to happen this month but apart from the usual mentalness I honestly don't think it will. Then it'll be back to the clinic to discuss what route we go down next.

I didn't manage to abstain from the drinking on Saturday, although I can't have had toooo much as I felt fine yesterday, just exhausted! However it was a very good night and fun was had by all, although we did raise a few eyebrows on the train at 6.30, and I would not recommend wearing a corset for 6 hours!

garden you have lots of promising signs :) I wish I could develop an aversion to coffee and alcohol, just for the moment, until the baby arrives and I can spend all my time going for coffees and lunch with friends.

Kaloki glad your cycle seems to be getting back to normal and fingers crossed you're all better soon

Pink hope you've had lots of fun with the SWI and so jealous your DP suggests looking at baby stuff! Although mine is onboard with the ttc I try not to discuss it too much as I'm scared he'll suddenly realise there might be a real baby at the end of this and freak out.

Bella sorry you're so busy with work. As mentioned above I had a great time in Edinburgh but didn't bother about the alcohol avoidance in the end. I'd go to GP sooner rather than later, worse scenario is they tell you to come back later and at best you get some help.

Cave hope your cycle settle down soon, it's horrible having the unknown wait

Florin I know what you mean about just wanting to know. I think that's why I always give in and test, I just can't stand playing the waiting game. It's not long till Friday now though (have to say that now it's back to work :() I am also a yummy mummy in my daydreams, no stress or any of the horrible stuff.

Sorry for long post, trying to catch up on everything since I was last here. Apologies if I've missed anyone. Will miss you all over the next 9 weeks as I won't be able to spend as much time chatting due to work cos I'm worried about being caught mumsnetting at work I'm far too bust and important

4 more days till Friday!

Flick hope your first day back at work was okay.

Womanly well done on the weight loss, fab news. And hoping your article gets published. Love the quote, that might be one for the pinboard by my desk, need to keep reminding myself!

Josie good for you for holding off with the POAS, think it's worth waiting to give yourself more chance of that BFP

Lanky remember that sometimes tests show a BFN for a while as there's just not enough pregnancy hormone, there's still chance. And some people get no symptoms at all. Fingers crossed for you. Hope you get some answers at the doctors. House sounds very exciting, even the bathroom! We moved into our house just over a year ago. It was built and decorated about 40 years ago and had a pink bathroom seat complete with foam loo seat with a pink butterfly embroidered on it! It's great getting your home the way you want it but I am getting a bit fed up of the mess and plaster dust. Still it's always worth it in the end.

Tante sounds like you've had a great weekend. Sometimes I love being an Aunty to my DP's niece and nephew and other times it breaks my heart. Sounds like you had a lovely time with your little niece though. Hope your GP appointment goes well. As for the booze, well if you're like me, you just don't keep it up but say f*ck it I'll stop drinking when I get the BFP.

Karstan sorry about FERTD, but good news that you can enjoy your holiday and great that you're understanding your body. I don't know if I'll ever understand what mine's doing.

Hmm, end of my post seems to have moved to the middle, not sure what happened there.

Oh and forgot to mention my other sign ... I am definitely fatter (which of course is a sign and not due to the fact that I have just spent 6 weeks sitting on my arse eating cheese and chocolate and drinking far too much) :o

Argh, fallen way behind again. If I don't read the thread every 12 hours I just get overwhelmed by the volume of posts!

Sorry to hear about FERTD Karstan.

So far I've resisted Mothercare because I figure it would just make me cross at not being pg, but today I walked past some sort of posh maternity shop that had gasp tomboyish maternity clothes in the window! Gasp! Could it be? Might there be hope for the likes of me? Of course I still have to get pg first...

highheels does your fear of being caught on Mumsnet at work mean you've been on the site from work before? If so, you're braver than I!

crazy I've just seen that I need to pay the £5 annual subscription to be able to receive/send messages so will do that in the morning.

I have to admit I had a crappy day yesterday in terms of how I was feeling. I have a tendency to get overwhelmed at times and yesterday was a bit of a trough. I'm feeling very frustrated about lack of action on the ERTD front and am convincing myself that there is something wrong with me. Totally irrational I know.

To try and counteract these feelings I went to Tesco earlier and bought, amongst other things, a bottle of wine and a tub of Ben & Jerry's Cookie Dough!

After a day or two of wallowing I should be back to normal!

Oh Cave cheer up sweety. I had a cycle like that a couple of months after coming off the pill, think it ended up at 50 something days, I thought I was broken! then after that they reduced by a good few days each month with
my last being 33 days which I think is vaguely normalish!
Think I've got FERTD symptoms appearing - occasional mild cramping and huge spot appeared on my chin!

cavemum Hope you have a better today than yesterday. Like florin I too have had these long gaps and it takes quite a toll on one's emotional reserves... Big hug to you and hope ERTD arrives quickly.
florin I think I am going to be joining you soon.. my back's sore - had a terrible night list night and for some reason these days I get up on my at 5:30..a bit irritating because my alarm goes off at 5:45.

I did the math last night and I have had periods ranging from 27 days apart to 33 days apart - so I am way too early in getting all excited. I have till Friday to test and since DH is returning on Monday I will perhaps wait and test then -- all this of course barring ERTD's arrival prior.

The good news is that I see my specialist tomorrow and were ERTD to arrive I am right on track for a round of clomid -- yipppie

Lot's of people planning to poas on Friday - -here's a rush of bfps :)
Thinking of you lanky

Tuesday's list:
evilgiraffe TTC#1 Cycle 2 UCL 28?! CD200
Alien06 TTC#1, Cycle 1, UCL??, CD39
kkas TTC#1 Cycle 12 UCL32 CD38
LankyLegs TTC#1 Cycle 10 UCL 27-29 CD35
GardenPixie TTC#1 cycle 8 UCL30-35 CD33
Womanlytales TTC#1, Cycle 5, UCL28-33, CD32
FelicityFlick TTC#1 Cycle 1 , UCL 32-33, CD29
Florin TTC#1 Cycle 5 UCL ??? CD28
TigerseyeMum TTC#1 Cycle 1, UCL 30, CD 28
Ilovemarmite79 TTC1, cycle 1, UCL28, CD26
JosieSmith1 TTC#1, cycle 2, UCL28, CD26
stegasaurus TTC#1 cycle 16 UCL? CD25
highheelsandequations TTC#1 cycle 13 (ish) UCL 32+ CD24
Zippys TTC#1 cycle 14 UCL33-39 CD19
Ariesgirl TTC#1 cycle 6 UCL 29-32 CD19
Toriajayne TTC#1, Cycle 1, UCL30, CD17
cherrycobbler TTC#1 cycle 7 UCL 32 CD15
Pinklady76 TTC#1, cycle 1, UCL 28, CD14
Crazybutterflylady TTC#1, cycle 2, UCL36, CD12
IfAtFirstYouDon'tSuceed TTC#1, Cycle 5,UCL 29, CD12
cookie moo TTC#1, cycle 18, ucl 26, cd 10
Bellaby TTC#1, Cycle 3, UCL?, CD10
RaspberryTipple TTC#1, Cycle 1, UCL ?, CD9
Crazydays TTC#1, Cycle 2,UCL 24-28, CD9
TomboyWife TTC#1, Cycle 9, UCL28, CD8
Karstan TTC#1, Cycle 3, UCL28, CD1

TBC
TanteAC TTC#1, cycle?, ucl?, cd?
DessieLou TTC1, Cycle?, UCL?, CD?

Not counting days
Kaloki (28 days to Wedding )
Miffles
Kurlyvoice
Chalky3

Waiting to TTC
Calyx
Sevans
CaveMum
calligraphy82
hairytriangle

Recent Graduates:
Seablue BFP 1 May
Oneof8 BFP 18 May
Aly323 BFP 20 May
applecharlotte BFP 29 May
papertiger BFP 31 May
Wannamummy BFP 1 June
Pipsicles BFP 6 June
Muser BFP 22 June
Superpenguin BFP 1 July
Haloflo BFP 22 July
Saor Alba BFP 7 August
Mrs Wajs BFP 13 August

Morning lovely frolickers, sorry I have been a little quiet recently. My head is not in the best of places at the moment. Sickness is getting on top of me with no real light at the end of the tunnel, then add to that the stress from TTC - and it results in an unhappy zippys . But I am still checking in on you all and hope we have our flurry of BFP's this weekend.

Morning all.

I am driving myself slowly mad! Last night I went to the toilet 4 times within 1 hour after 1 cup of tea (I don't go much more than 4 times in a whole day normally) so convinced myself I'm pg. Plus the smell of my leftover fish and chips knocked me sick. If I'm not pg this month I'm going to be so embarrassed!

I lie on my front in bed so because I was convinced I'm pg I lay very very carefully, just in case, and then got to wondering if you could accidentally dislodge a newly implanted egg by jumping excessively etc! How ridiculous

So the jist is, I've been up all night probably for no reason!

Morning morning

cavey hug hug sweetie, sorry to hear you're feeling a bit down in the dumps. I hope our good friends Ben and Jerry gave you a bit of a lift?

Sorry to hear you're still poorly zippys - it's all a bit crap isn't it. I prescribe a visit to Tesco, a la cavey and stock up on the good stuff :)

It's so tough on us women, we try to be rational and tell ourselves not to think about things excessively, but these rgaing hormones put pay to any chance of that. So don't be too hard on yourselves ladies, none of this is avoidable, we just have to ride it and see where it leads.

Keep your chin up everyone, we're all here for each other xx

Morning ladies, thank you for all the lovely messages. It makes a world of difference to know that others have been through a similar thing. Without you all to help keep me sane I would have probably been sectioned by now!

zippys sorry to hear you are still feeling sick, feel free to join me in a wallow (((hugs)))

Josie I think it is totally normal to be extra sensitive to possible "signs" but do try and take a deep breath every now and then! Don't put too much pressure on yourself.

Right, must get ready for work. Catch you all later.

gardenpixie sadly I was i n Dubai with my family and left hubby at home so no BD for moi!

Does my entry on the list need to be updated as the return on the ERTD happened on 12th Aug? So should I now be on cycle 2? Or am I talking complete babble lol.

Popped onto facebook this morning and another announcement of an upcoming pregnancy and I know they only just started trying, happy but awfully jealous too!

Hope you are all well and have a fab day x

Hey y'all

How are we this morning?

Cavey sorry to hear you are down in the dumps. You have every right to feel how you do. I know it must be frustrating but try not to worry too much about the cycles since you have been off the pill only a few months - It is so annoying how our bodies can be so slow to sort themselves out. Hope you enjoyed the ice-cream!

Josie you made me giggle - hope it is your month! Love the crazy symptom spotting!

Zippys Hope you are ok - missing you on the board! Please come and moan on here if you want to - we love a good moan. Anyway - sorry you are feeling crappy and also that your sickness keeps rearing its head.

Womanly thanks for your thoughts. Still BFN and a week late nearly! I hope ERTD stays away for you - I have had ERTD symptoms come and go over the last 2 weeks - its bizarre. Great that you are seeing your specialist tomorrow too - make sure you get what you want out of him! I also wanted to say congratulations on getting your article published? Sounds brilliant - what an achievement! I wish I did something more interesting for work. Ugh its boring.

Florin keeping fingers crossed FERTD stays away.

Tomboy i very naughtily check in from work but really should not - I will be starting a new project soon so won;t be on here as much in the day for sure!

Sorry to hear about FERTD Karstan - but enjoy the impending holiday - so lovely to have that to look forward to at least.

Highheels glad first day back wasn't too bad. Your Saturday night sounded fun in the end! I have worn a corset once before for a night out and they are painful!! Never again! Keeping fingers crossed for your symptoms too.

Pink did you resist the choccy? Yes I went to the gym and felt much better for it! Will be trying to get my 3 sessions in this week -if only to justify the food that I eat!!

Hmm motherhood - clearly I have the same romantic disillusional view of it being totally organised composed and easier than working. I'm sure it won't be - but i am looking forward to it nonetheless!

Right - am seeing the GP this evening so will raise the whole I am 1 week late, defo not pregnant what is going on. And I am sure I will come out the surgery with 'see what happens, give it more time etc etc'. Bah. I do think it's thyroid related though.

Morning Frolickers!

So I think I just have to accept that I am NOT pg this cycle. Not full on ERTD but not just spotting (sorry, TMI!).

But that means I'll get to try out my lovely new pills ... womanly it sounds like we might both be taking clomid at the same time.

Cavey it is horribly frustrating isn't it? I was driven pretty much insane by the refusal of my lady bits either to get knocked up or have an ERTD. I hope you are OK and not too grumpified by the whole thing?

Big waves to everyone else; sorry I can't do a longer post today but am at work in a client's office today rather than working from home so I have limited opportunity to MN unobserved.

Happy Tuesday all

Happy Tuesday, y'all!
Big hugs to all those attacked by ERTD this month, and fingers and toes crossed for all those symptom spotting...

lanky I can't believe you got a sub-standard pornstar cocktail this is a DISGRACE! A new mn campaign looms, surely..?

womanly I, too, am the PCO/S queen of facts! Perhaps garden and I should start up an information hotline, prioritising those who are getting sh*t advice from their GP! Keep pushing for tests and treatment, I ended up getting all my bloods, etc done on NHS, but paid for a private dietician. Changed evrything! How much GPs know about treatments and diagnosis really varies, so you sort of need to know more than them, if anything. There are some good books - anything by Nadir Farid (is a Harley St specialist) and Elana Horowitz (dietician I went to)are particularly reliable. They are both specialists. Good luck!

AndIwould like to thank highheels for the best advice I have had so far in ttc:

As for the booze, well if you're like me, you just don't keep it up but say f*ck it I'll stop drinking when I get the BFP.

love it

Tante Thank you for sharing -- I would really like to connect with a dietician..where is Elana based out of?
Also I am going to see my specialist tomorrow..so can you and garden help me with figuring out what to ask...
I am not sure what kind of PCO I have..also not sure on the difference between PCO, PCOS and PCOD...or which of the four types I have... so that's really going to be my opening line with him.
In December they did a scan and they said that I was polycystic..I also had a few blood tests [digging up reports] - Here they are - - Serum FSH and LH are normal - 6.2 and 6.2. TSH, Prolactin and testosterone also normal.Rubella immune. It doesn't seem like I had the AMH test that garden referred to. Will look for books by Farid and Horowitz -- thank you again :)

garden sorry about the onset of ertd. I am due any moment too instead of just focusing on work and keeping busy I've been obsessing and checking every hour or whenever I 'feel' something...

Was reading about how some women 'feel' pregnant...and I am like....what does that really feel like???

Part of me is shaking my head at my desperate state... the other more dominant part is still going strong being insane!

lanky I am glad you're going to see your GP I am sure it makes you feel like you have some control on how to get to the bottom of this... REading ur post I thought perhaps you're still too early...and the implantation is late in ur luteal phase..hence not enough of the hormones being communicated out... Perhaps the GP will agree for a blood test? The good news is that if you are pregnant you will only get more pregnant as the days go by flo's advice -- and I have to keep repeating this to myself...and it has no effect!!

All right -- got to concentrate on work. Was calculating vacation hours and wishing to take a day off...sadly I've used up all my hours already.

Work, work, work!!!

oh and lanky we submit the article by Friday and it gets published (fingers crossed) in September...:)

Happy Tuesday all. I've been giggling whilst trying to catch up firstly imagining you all in your floaty dresses pushing perfectly behaved babies to lunch with other yummy mummies - lots of the books say visualisation is key after all! Also giggling at all those who are trying to post on MN unobserved by their colleagues - you need something businesslike and boring on your screen so that as soon as you minimise MN it looks like you're working hard! :)

I'm pretty sure I've been clocked on here at work a few times! Though I doubt they know what site it is or they would have commented as everyone thinks I hate babies!

I am definitely going to be a yummy mummy (I have decided) and look gorgeous and effortless all the time.

I neeeeeeeeeeeeeed to POAS! ERTD due thursday so I'm biting my nails!