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SIL playing "pick me" at Christmas

480 replies

PerspicaciaTick · 07/12/2023 22:05

DH and I both have tiny families so Christmas Day this year is going to be at our house. DH's 80yo widowed Mum, my 80yo Mum and Dad who both have massive health issues, DH's brother and his wife plus us and our 2 children.
All fine. Except SIL has announced she will only come if my Mum isn't there.
Talk about playing silly buggers and upsetting everyone. In what world am I going to withdraw a Christmas invite to my parents? Why didn't she just make an excuse and decline the offer? Now we have hurt feelings, zero explanation from SIL, and a nasty atmosphere.
I'm really wishing she'd just said "Thanks, but no thanks" instead of playing stupid pick me games - AIBU?

OP posts:
billy1966 · 08/12/2023 07:42

Don't get into it with your SIL.

Rescind your invitation to her.

No futher discussion.

Just say they couldn't make it.

I wouldn't want to be in her company again.

Do NOT allow her to change her mind.

Do NOT allow her to sour the day.

Take control of this firmly.

DinkyDonkey2018 · 08/12/2023 07:43

ModeWeasel · 08/12/2023 07:15

If someone invites me to their house, they can invite who the hell they like. If the SIL wanted to go and visit her mum instead, what’s stopping her?

Of course. But that doesn’t mean SIL wants to spend unexpected time with someone else’s parents on Christmas day when it’s not even her in laws and her own aren’t included.

If SIL is expected to spend Christmas with the in-laws this year and they are at someone else’s house, she hasn’t got much choice but to go has she?

My point was how would the OP feel if she was in SIL’s shoes?

Why on earth are you tying yourself up in knots to defend the SILs position? You know it's not always warranted to put yourself in someone else's shoes?

Meadowgrasses · 08/12/2023 07:43

My SIL has just done this too. So rude. We just ignored her and she seems to be coming now. But the alternative was her being alone.

DinkyDonkey2018 · 08/12/2023 07:44

DinkyDonkey2018 · 08/12/2023 07:43

Why on earth are you tying yourself up in knots to defend the SILs position? You know it's not always warranted to put yourself in someone else's shoes?

Also, we have no idea if SILs parents are even around/alive. It's a total made-up argument.

CormorantStrikesBack · 08/12/2023 07:47

PerspicaciaTick · 07/12/2023 23:46

Sorry for being prickly. This will be the first time in 3 years that mum is well enough to attempt a family Christmas, we've all been excited to be together and SIL has tarnished it with her antics.

You should tell her that. What a cow.

bungletru · 08/12/2023 07:47

Is it because she expects her mum to be invited?

very bizarre behaviour. Better off not having her over and enjoy your time with your parents

wendyelliott · 08/12/2023 07:51

Unless she can give you a valid reason I would be cutting her out of my life. She sounds very toxic.

CormorantStrikesBack · 08/12/2023 07:52

ModeWeasel · 08/12/2023 06:59

Also how would you feel if invited th SIL’s house for Christmas with the in laws and it turned out to be with her parents too (but not yours)?

I wouldn't expect to take my parents to my SILs house as they're no relation to her (my husband's sister) but I also wouldn't be surprised if her parents (my in-laws) were there seeing as it's her house or even if her husbands parents (no relation to me) were there seeing as it's also his house.

Anisette · 08/12/2023 07:53

PerspicaciaTick · 07/12/2023 23:27

Why "must" my mum be the one to blame?

Maybe it's the other way round - your SIL said or did something offensive towards your mother and is now embarrassed about it, or worried she might be called out on it.

Mumof2teens79 · 08/12/2023 07:54

I don't understand why your BIL hasn't diffused this.
It's absolutely ridiculous for him to pass that message on without demanding and getting a (reasonable) explanation from his wife.

If its a genuine problem with your mum then a normal person would just say sorry we are doing our thing at home.

Is it really "pick me," or does she just not want to come and is assuming you will say no? Maybe she want to do something else.

I would assume though that once you say no, they may invite DH mum to theirs

ItAintGonnaGoDownEasyIfItAintCheezy · 08/12/2023 07:57

Maybe the silly bitch thinks your mum shouldn't be there because she hasn't been there the last 3 years. Maybe she stupidly thinks your mum should have 'made more effort' to be there.

Whatever her reasons, I'd just cut her off and never have her in my house again.

It could be your mums last Christmas and she's coming with this shit. Fuck her forever more.

Birdcar · 08/12/2023 07:59

She's looking for attention. Don't give it to her.

I'd simply reply 'noted' and not discuss it any further.

There's nothing to be gained by engaging with that kind of crazy.

Chocoswirl · 08/12/2023 07:59

I’d politely disinvite SIL now. As you say, you won’t now have a nice time if she comes as she’s tarnished things.
”Hi SIL, sorry that you won’t be coming for Christmas, we’d put up with love to have you over on the 30th if you are free?”

Wishihadanalgorithm · 08/12/2023 07:59

Your SIL sounds nuts. I think I’d let her know she isn’t invited to yours now but everyone else is!

I would want to have a face to face conversation with her and find out what her issue is. If she still wasn’t forth coming, I would could cut her adrift. It’s really bizarre behaviour and if she can’t explain it, then don’t be part of her made up drama.

Gcsunnyside23 · 08/12/2023 08:00

I can't understand how this message went through your bil and mil and neither thought it better to tell sil to grow up or just decline politely. Now there's potential for a real falling out in the family over what seems to be no real reason

TimeIhadaNameChange · 08/12/2023 08:00

Could BIL please ask her why on earth she thinks she, who is not directly related to the the hosts and is, I presume, of healthy body, is entitled to be prioritised over someone who is a direct, less capable, relative? I'm desperate to hear her answer to this.

(And yes, I know I'm not entitled to know, but it would be amusing hearing how she tries to defend her stance!)

SantasPronounsAreHeAndHim · 08/12/2023 08:01

How is your SIL usually? Is she normally nice, easy to get on with, or has she always been a high maintenance drama lama? I think this is important. If she is usually OK, then clearly something has been said, or taken the wrong way. If she has form for being horrible, then that is a different matter.

Depending on the answer above, my response would be appropriate.

a) I'd ask what was said, and try and smooth it over. If she won't tell you (because she acts like an 11 year old), then you tried.

b) If she is just generally a cow bag, then I would rip her a new one for upsetting my sick mum. I would go absolutely nuts is someone tried to exclude my mum like that.

Also, whatever the above, your BIL needs to grow a set of balls. My DH would point out to me that I was either BU, or needed to sort it out like an adult.

Brefugee · 08/12/2023 08:02

wildwestpioneer · 08/12/2023 06:54

I think I'd just respond with 'oh that's a shame sil, would have been lovely to see you at Christmas, let's catch up in the new year'

I'd not even go that far. From me she'd get "oh that's a shame. Have a good Christmas" and then I'd definitely not be including her in any events that my mum would be attending.

DH, BIL and MIL will all know why, so it's not as though OP will look like a bully.

LadyDanburysHat · 08/12/2023 08:03

billy1966 · 08/12/2023 07:42

Don't get into it with your SIL.

Rescind your invitation to her.

No futher discussion.

Just say they couldn't make it.

I wouldn't want to be in her company again.

Do NOT allow her to change her mind.

Do NOT allow her to sour the day.

Take control of this firmly.

This is the best way. I really can't think what is going through your SILs head. Because not only has she caused drama for Christmas, she has essentially ruined family relations going forward.

I would also be somewhat annoyed at BIL. He should have just told your DH that they were going to have a Christmas at home and dealt with his wife on his own.

LonelyFlans · 08/12/2023 08:03

Does SIL not cope well with ill people generally OP?

It's not a good enough excuse to behave like she is, mind you.

A couple of times we've had relatives with a catheter (so a urine bag that needs regular emptying) or visual impairments over & a friend was horrified that we might have to "do things for them". Of course it's no problem when it's people you know and like, but some people seem unable to cope with that.

SantasPronounsAreHeAndHim · 08/12/2023 08:09

A couple of times we've had relatives with a catheter (so a urine bag that needs regular emptying) or visual impairments over & a friend was horrified that we might have to "do things for them". Of course it's no problem when it's people you know and like, but some people seem unable to cope with that.

Ahh, your poor friend. Sick people should just not be seen or heard. Let's hope that if and when your friend is old or sick, that people treat her with the compassion and understanding she shows to others.

Sometimes things are not very nice to see, then you remember that that could be you or your loved one, and you dig a bit deep and act like a human.

NeedToChangeName · 08/12/2023 08:12

SIL told your BIL she didn't want to come on Christmas Day if your Mum would be there

There was no need for BIL to share this with anyone

They should have just declined

MeanWeedratStew · 08/12/2023 08:14

@SantasPronounsAreHeAndHim

Too right! My mum lost two close friends when she became ill because they "couldn't cope" with the situation. Fucking pathetic. Though I've no doubt that they'll both turn up to her funeral when she dies, and try to make it about themselves.

wiseoldcat · 08/12/2023 08:22

Quitelikeit · 07/12/2023 22:08

I think that is v rude of her - what on earth upsets her about an 80yo woman?

I would message back and say that you won’t be able to uninvite your mother and the offer still stands if she changes her mind

It's quite ageist to think that an 80 year old woman could not possibly be the cause of any upset. Families are complicated.

Headshoulderscheeseontoast · 08/12/2023 08:22

Sil is trying to create drama

Tell them your mum is (obviously) definitely coming but given what your sil has said you no longer feel its appropriate that bil and sil come anymore.

Withdraw their invitation altogether.

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