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Vegetarians invited themselves for Christmas- got beef ordered!

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EdenFlower · 18/11/2021 16:48

So, my vegetarian relatives and asked if they can join us for Christmas? I have it planned- joint of beef on order, I've perfected my roast potatoes and like them cooked in beef dripping, likewise the yorkshire pudding, my sprout recipe is cooked with pancetta, starter is parma ham and figs...and so on! Grrr! Now everything will need to adapted to be veggie because I'm not doing two versions of everything. It was already adapted to be gluten free for MIL but now two more special diet guests is a push.

Would it be rude to ask them to bring their own veggie options with them- nut roast and vegetarian gravy or whatever it is they eat?

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SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 20/11/2021 17:03

In this case, the vegetarian guests invited themselves, though, @EstherTW, so that doesn’t apply.

Cameleongirl · 20/11/2021 17:05

Hurray, I'm so glad they've offered to bring their own main course! Making a few sides won't be such a huge undertaking, problem solved.

TheWatersofMarch · 20/11/2021 17:24

If you can spare oven space for a small tray throw in Tesco roast potatoes and some frozen yorkies on top for the last few minutes; microwave some frozen sprouts; get them to bring something like nut roast you can heat up. Don't change your recipes you've worked on. I expect stuffing, bread sauce, cauliflower cheese, cranberry etc are ok for them?

Cornwallmaid · 20/11/2021 17:25

Wow, where is the spirit of Christmas? I am not a religious person, but I celebrate Christmas anyway as many of us do. I hope any friend or family member of mine would be happy to "invite" themselves. Since when is rude to say "you are the people we would most like to spend this sacred day with"?? And spending that day above all others with those who wish to have company is surely more important than what food is on your plate! I'll eat a curry on Christmas day if that means I get to spend it with people who want to spend it with me!
There will always be a place at my table for anyone who wants it, especially on Christmas day, friend, stranger or enemy, you are welcome and I will accommodate you however I can.
Christmas is about kindness and gratitude not a Turkey or a pile of presents. What a sad state of affairs.

EdenFlower · 20/11/2021 17:31

@TheWatersofMarch

If you can spare oven space for a small tray throw in Tesco roast potatoes and some frozen yorkies on top for the last few minutes; microwave some frozen sprouts; get them to bring something like nut roast you can heat up. Don't change your recipes you've worked on. I expect stuffing, bread sauce, cauliflower cheese, cranberry etc are ok for them?
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EdenFlower · 20/11/2021 17:39

The mind actually boggles at serving guests microwaved frozen sprouts! I can't even imagine what they must taste like...

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YouJustFoldItIn · 20/11/2021 17:41

If you can spare oven space for a small tray throw in Tesco roast potatoes and some frozen yorkies on top for the last few minutes; microwave some frozen sprouts

I'd only do that to a vegetarian I really hated.

Twentypast · 20/11/2021 17:49

It's really not that hard to cater for. I have 9 people in total. 1 diabetic, 1 vegan and 1 with a tree nut allergy and I'm managing.

Am slightly worried about killing the person with the allergy although. I'm triple checking every ingredient Confused

Dillydollydingdong · 20/11/2021 18:23

No it wouldn't be rude. Explain to them that beef is on the menu.

Simplelobsterhat · 20/11/2021 18:29

@Cornwallmaid

Wow, where is the spirit of Christmas? I am not a religious person, but I celebrate Christmas anyway as many of us do. I hope any friend or family member of mine would be happy to "invite" themselves. Since when is rude to say "you are the people we would most like to spend this sacred day with"?? And spending that day above all others with those who wish to have company is surely more important than what food is on your plate! I'll eat a curry on Christmas day if that means I get to spend it with people who want to spend it with me! There will always be a place at my table for anyone who wants it, especially on Christmas day, friend, stranger or enemy, you are welcome and I will accommodate you however I can. Christmas is about kindness and gratitude not a Turkey or a pile of presents. What a sad state of affairs.
I also think Christmas is about spending time together, but interestingly that leads me to a different attitude to hosting which is that the important thing is you are together and the host is providing a space for that to happen. I see no reason why this means everyone has to eat the same or the host is the only person who has to lift a finger to prepare or provide any food. It's different maybe if its a dinner party you have invited people too, but Christmas is an occasion everyone would be celebrating wherever they were so why is it all on one person? Christmas is indeed a time you spend with people close to you, so surely that means you don't have to impress and stand on ceremony and can ask people to help out. It's interesting how different people's traditions and ideas of hospitality are. I always ask guests to bring starter or dessert at Xmas and it's never occurred to me that's rude (to be fair they usually offer and it's only our parents). Also, even if you were to say it would be polite to eat the same as your guests would want to eat, the OP has more than one set of guests I think so she needs to please both.
QuiteQuaint · 20/11/2021 18:59

Genuinely astounded that this has generated 35 pages of comments. And the guests have offered to bring their own so it was pointless. 🤣

BlueTouchPaper · 20/11/2021 19:51

It's supposed to be about the event, and the group, not the food - isn't it? That's what I've always done when vegans have come to see me, anyway. I'm really surprised at people being expected to bring their own food

I've read most of this thread, but not in its entirety. We usually have just dh and me and the grown up children + partners nowadays, but the past couple of years we invited dh's brother and wife because they would otherwise be on their own, because their own kids were having xmas dinner with 'their' in- laws. Lot of bloody in-laws around at xmas.

They're not elderly or frail, mid fifties, into fell walking and wild swimming, and they would have been perfectly happy on their own, but it's just fun at xmas to be with relatives, isn't it?

I'd got my xmas meat order in and everything, had most things planned, and only thought to invite them 3 weeks beforehand.
They are vegan. So then I thought, do you know what? I'll change my order online, and do a vegan xmas dinner! I love a challenge, me.

I don't know why so many people (even vegans!) are so scathing about nut roast. I bloody love it. It was no less tasty without the parma ham, and cheese, and pigs in blankets, and beef dripping roasties, and pancetta ham scattered everywhere. If you're missing that flavour just chuck in a handful of salt. I did, however, rope the in-laws in as advisers on the day so effectively halved my kitchen duties.
OK so it wasn't traditional turkey or beef with all the trimmings. But it was tasty, it was a proper feast, and it was a change from the norm.
A lot of Xmas puddings are accidentally vegan so that wasn't difficult.

We had 'proper' cheese in the evening, , but I got a vegan alternative cheeseboard at Sainsbury's which in-laws were happy with.
I didn't miss meat one little teeny bit because we were a party of eight, on xmas day, with delicious food and some wine and it was something I'd happily repeat. I can have a bacon and sausage sandwich any day of the week. With an egg on top.

BlueTouchPaper · 20/11/2021 20:07

Wow, where is the spirit of Christmas? I am not a religious person, but I celebrate Christmas anyway as many of us do. I hope any friend or family member of mine would be happy to "invite" themselves

Yes. Me too. I love that my close friends and relatives feel comfortable enough in my home that they actively want, and like, to be here.

BlueTouchPaper · 20/11/2021 20:23

The mind actually boggles at serving guests microwaved frozen sprouts! I can't even imagine what they must taste like

Agree with you here OP, wholeheartedly. They are watery tasteless mush. I get a few fresh stems of sprouts from the farmshop early December, parboil them, and freeze them in portions of four. Sprouts always taste nicer when they've had a frost upon them, so freezing makes them tastier. We're not having too many frosts in December in recent years so the freezer does the job nicely.

Apparently, the entire nation is divided into people who really love sprouts, and those who liken their taste to the cojones of satan.

Me? I absolutely love them. Although I think they've had some sweetness bred into them since I was a nipper. They prob taste nicer nowadays than in the 60s.

Anyway. Agreed. Unless they are home grown and home frozen they are inedible.

TatianaBis · 20/11/2021 20:24

I love sprouts.

BlueTouchPaper · 20/11/2021 20:28

I love sprouts

Fresh or frozen?

TatianaBis · 20/11/2021 20:32

Fresh. With chestnuts at Christmas.

BlueTouchPaper · 20/11/2021 21:46

Fresh. With chestnuts at Christmas

What about Pancetta? Can't be Christmas without Pancetta.
Can it?

WhereYouLeftIt · 20/11/2021 21:50

@EdenFlower

As hoped, problem solved- rellies offered to bring vegetarian main dish! Yeah! Bring on the Christmas celebrations- it's gonna be a good one- I can feel it!
Fantastic! Have a lovely time.
TatianaBis · 20/11/2021 21:53

We wrap prunes with bacon and on the top of the turkey. I don’t want it on sprouts as well.

VelmaKelly88 · 20/11/2021 21:57

Not rude at all, sure they'll understand and bring their own bits, they invited themselves not the other way around so they have to be reasonable so you don't have a stressful time cooking

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 20/11/2021 22:34

@BlueTouchPaper

Fresh. With chestnuts at Christmas

What about Pancetta? Can't be Christmas without Pancetta.
Can it?

I think it can. I do sprouts with chestnuts - just boiled (still al dente) - I don’t even put butter on them. There is bacon in the stuffing, and I think the richness of the meal needs some balance, so plain sprouts and chestnuts is good.
FeeLock · 21/11/2021 14:26

I think you have to decide which is more important, having your family around you or cooking a fabulous meal. If the former, suggest you explain to them that this is new for you and that you'd value their help and support in putting together a diverse meal for everyone. If the latter, say you don't want them - it would be insulting to be asked to bring their own food if you are providing it for everyone else.

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 21/11/2021 15:40

@FeeLock - the guests have offered to bring a vegetarian main, and the OP will be making the sides, or most of them, vegetarian too.

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