Do you think it's wrong for people to buy must have toys and sell them at huge profit on EBay etc?

[lottieandmia22]

I do. I think it’s pretty mercenary.

Oh I think you know fine well what point I’m making.you just don’t like it
You're contradicting yourself all over the thread.ebay doesn’t remove toys
eBay creates a opportunity to buy a sold out item at higher than the rrp

There you go again trying to deflect away from your ill thought out argument
You are all hyperbole and hallmark schmaltz.
But in order to draw attention off your inability to grasp supply & demand you’ll make a quip again
If you post me a thesaurus I’ll send you dummies guide to economics

No. My main point is that there are much more altruistic ways to be entrepreneurial than to buy a toy specifically to sell it at an inflated price when another person could have bought that toy for its rrp. I’m afraid I genuinely don’t understand your rambling posts with repeated use of the word hyperbole.

You seem to have a problem with anyone disagreeing with you. I’m not going to change my opinion.

I did not say that childhood is about material goods.

Not explicitly, but it is heavily implied through your posts and use of language.

You keep going on about children only being children for a short time in reference to the possibility they may not get their most wanted toy, hence the implication you believe childhood is quite heavily dependant on material goods.

Schmaltz? Me? Not likely.

If you post me a thesaurus I’ll send you dummies guide to economics

That's very kind gesture, but I think I'll have to decline actually swapping addresses runs

No one is asking you to change opinion op.what a peculiar thing to say
You habitually have had made digs at me,presumably you’re exasperated
You’re inconsistent and seem to find it objectionable to have disagreement on thread

@lottieandmia22 ive got one now. Thanks though

Just because she won't get this years "must have" toy doesn't mean you have to buy her something she doesn't like and will never play with confused There is a middle ground, you know! Use it. Your kid will thank you for it.
I don't know why you think you know my dc more than me
She doesn't want the toy because it's this year's "must have" she has no idea it's this year's "must have" she wants the toy because shes collected them for ages and plays with them every day. It's something we both enjoy playing it's only natural she would want to complete her collection.
It wasn't that long ago we tried to swap some of her doubles on our local fb sale/swap group and nobody had even heard of them..i didn't know it had got so popular so to buy her something eles just seems pointless

Incorrect. They're buying the toys to sell at a higher price, so a child will still receive them because people are willing to pay that price.
No there not. I'm certainly not. I would never pay over rrp 1 out of principle and 2 I just couldn't afford it. It would mean me having to spend more money on one child than the others.
On the ratio of whether it's fair or morally wrong is how much does it really benefit the perpetrators to how much it hinders the people it affects by not being able to buy the toys.
So benefits for people who buys and sells.
Extra money to buy and sell more stuff. As it's already been pointed out it's a gamble so probably not going to starve if they don't make there money back.
Verses disappointed children, lack of faith in the kindness of humanity and the "Christmas spirit'
Parents paying more than they can afford or getting into dept, parents having to spend more time traipsing round shops or searching the web instead of playing with there children, stressed out guilt ridden parents.
People seem to have the conception that if children want these toys it's because they're spoiled, shallow and fikle. But if that was the case then surely any toy would do they obviously don't care about the toy and only want it for wanting sake so it wouldn't actually matter what you bought them because they just want stuff.
Children usually want that one special toy they have there hearts set on that's why parents are so desperate to get them.

Your child may not receive the must have toy off eBay.someone dc will.evidenced by sale
That’s what eBay does,sell in demand items for profit.above rrp.someone buys
So in fact someone child is getting the toy because their parent paid the eBay price set

Oh well that's ok then as long as some parents are happy to pay over the odds then fuck all the ones who arn't
Still doesn't make it right.

That’s how ebay and supply & demand works. Demand drives prices simples
You don’t have to pay over the rrp,not compelled to.but someone else will
There’s no fuck you about it.as your free to chose.

I know how supply and demand works. Doesn't mean it's not morally wrong!

Morals don’t come in to it.its a toy transaction. Not illegal drug trafficking

Op didn't ask if it was illegal. She asked if people thought it was wrong. I assume she means morally because I'm fairly sure she knows it's not illegal

Funnyfarmer Your post about your kid not knowing if it's this years must have toy is completely irrelevant and entirely misses the point of what I actually posted.

There isn't only one toy in the world that she will like and if she doesn't get it nothing else will do. You as her parent have the ability, through knowing her, to find other things she will like and enjoy.

Also just because you wouldn't pay over the odds and therefore your child misses out is again irrelevant, because other parents are willing to pay that much and their child will receive said toy; hence said toy is still going to a child that wants it.

hmm.you see in general morally wrong is usually only ever universally agreed for drugs,crime etc
EBay performs a really useful function,is hugely popular not generally regarded morally wrong

@WhatToDoAboutThis2017
Any other toy will not be played with or enjoyed anywhere as near as much as the toy she wants.
Yes other parents will pay it. And it will
probably leave them out of pocket. There's still several parents who won't/can't pay it so there child will go without.
@LipstickHandbagCoffee. No those things are illegal not morally wrong.
Mortally wrong is not sharing fortune with those who have nothing even though you may have earned your fortune, taking the last sandwich in the canteen when you've not long since eaten but your colleague behind you has been in work for 6 hours without a break and probably won't eat again until home time, not giving up your seat on a bus to someone who may need it more than you even though you were there 1st. Non are illegal and said person would be perfectly in there rights not to give up said stuff but it's a bit snide and morally wrong. As is buying toys that children want for Christmas and selling them for a profit resulting in all the cons I said before

FunnyFarmer:
So again my dd will see spoiled, unruly, misbehaved little brats getting everything they want while she has to settle for something she doesn't like. I just don't feel like I'm being kind.

Then you urgently need to change your tack. You are telling your DD something that she can observe for herself is not true. I suggest not promising specific items for Christmas as rewards for good behaviour all year.

That approach builds Christmas up far too much and builds up the importance of the desired/heavily advertised toy far too much, with disappointment apparently in store for your child for at least two years running now (hatchimals last year and the other toy this year). Why would you keep on leading on a child like that?

If this is a toy that has been available for a while, you will be able to pick one up after Christmas quite easily. The price will drop thanks to the laws of supply and demand

Lottieandmia:
I think it’s quite unbelievable that some people are trying to twist this around to children being greedy for wanting a toy they just happen to like.
Nobody is doing that.

I also disagree with your assertion that childhood Christmas should be a time when reality should not intrude and that you owe a child that, and that other people owe children that.

In the old days when times were really bleak, parents used to go all out for Christmas to make sure their children had at least one day per year when they were not hungry or left to play with mud and sticks, or whatever. Conditions like that do not exist any more and there is no need to mark out Christmas with a display of being able to provide something magical in the material sense or to provide a day when reality is suspended. Reality is not that bleak any more for children.

As some PPs have said, there are lots of very enjoyable toys that are reasonably priced that could be a very nice surprise for a child, and would be played with for a long time. The problem here is building up a child's hope that because Christmas is such a magical and unreal time the 'must have' toy will materialise.

Any other toy will not be played with or enjoyed anywhere as near as much as the toy she wants.

So? That's life. It happens to everyone everywhere; children and adults alike. You can't always get the thing you want, but that doesn't mean you can't be happy with anything else. As her parent, you need to teach her that lesson and quickly.

There's still several parents who won't/can't pay it so there child will go without.

Sure, and there's all the parents who couldn't afford to pay the RRP in the first place whose children will go without.

Also this relatively new thing. It may become illegal in the near future. Retailers are already trying to clamp down on it by limiting the number of these toys sold per customer even though it might hinder there profits. There's already strict rules and regulations about this sort thing in high street shops. Maybe in the future online sellers will have to follow similar regulations.

Illegal to sell on eBay?really what’s the source for that

Funnyfarmer It will never be illegal. Sorry to disappoint.

Then you urgently need to change your tack. You are telling your DD something that she can observe for herself is not true. I suggest not promising specific items for Christmas as rewards for good behaviour all year.
Of course she observes these things for herself. I have no idea what other people's children get for Christmas or how they behave but I have heard " John Smith got a hatchimal off Santa and he's always naughty"
I'm very aware she can't always get what she wants and so is she I don't want to give her everything she wants just one thing I know she will get alot of enjoyment out of and will last her more than the initial buzz of a new toy. It's the reasoning behind why she can't have said toy That's unprofound.
I don't promise specific toys for good behaviour. I tell her like every other parent if she's good she will be rewarded especially at Christmas.
Yes there are those who can't afford rrp prices too. That's why living within your means is important. It's not about not having what we cant afford it's about someone eles purposely making something unaffordable to you when otherwise would be affordable.
If she doesn't get the toys She wants she will get over it it's not that massive of a deal but the op is asking it is wrong for people to sell toys at inflated prices and imo it is. I really (and I think it obvious) don't understand how people can really belive it isn't!
My parenting or my child's life expectations are neither here nor there and quite frankly not the business of anyone.
Your basic argument is it's the child's fault for wanting so much or the parents fault for letting them believe that Christmas is magical when the only fault is the people who taking the toys from the shelves so people can't have.

If they didn't parents would know how much they had to save and what they can and can't afford. It's not like children are expecting anything ridiculous. Just an affordable toy that sold in most high street shops.

Not illegal to sell on eBay. To sell at ridiculously inflated prices. But you already knew that's what I meant