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Parents, what your reasons for not & for vaccinating your children?

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Sickofit189 · 04/05/2024 18:28

Anyone on here not vaccinate their children?
anyone on here do vaccinate ?
what are your reasons for both ?

did anyone lose trust in the NHS during covid after the vaccine roll out?

just an open chat!

OP posts:
berksandbeyond · 05/05/2024 19:51

earther · 05/05/2024 19:21

Ive never been vaccinated not even as a baby.
Im very healthy nothing wrong with me.
My two children only ever had 1 jab when they were born that was it now adults never had any problems or the flu /bugs only one had a cold once for a few days.
Everyone to their own.

‘Nothing wrong with me’ is very debatable

earther · 05/05/2024 19:54

berksandbeyond · 05/05/2024 19:51

‘Nothing wrong with me’ is very debatable

Its MN someone will always find something to debate.
Wright a whole book and MN posters will pick at one line of it.

MrsArcher23 · 05/05/2024 20:05

The choice of not vaccinating your children is a luxury afforded to millennial and Gen Z parents, thanks to the eradication of life threatening diseases by widespread vaccination but these parents are now relying on herd immunity to keep their children safe.

I'm just one generation away from the harm caused by these (now eradicated ) diseases. My father was a 1940s polio survivor with life long consequences. Post polio syndrome with its debilitating extreme fatigue and general muscle weakness plagued his final years. My MIL spent two years in a TB sanatorium in the 1950s, isolated from her family. Not vaccinating my DC didn't even cross my mind.

MrsArcher23 · 05/05/2024 20:19

earther · 05/05/2024 19:21

Ive never been vaccinated not even as a baby.
Im very healthy nothing wrong with me.
My two children only ever had 1 jab when they were born that was it now adults never had any problems or the flu /bugs only one had a cold once for a few days.
Everyone to their own.

My now grown DC are thankfully also healthy with nothing other than the occasional cold, as are we, the parents. All of us fully vaccinated but I wouldn't draw any conclusions either way about that correlation.

berksandbeyond · 05/05/2024 20:27

earther · 05/05/2024 19:54

Its MN someone will always find something to debate.
Wright a whole book and MN posters will pick at one line of it.

*Write

earther · 05/05/2024 20:34

berksandbeyond · 05/05/2024 20:27

*Write

I`m aware of the spelling it was my point and it proved a point.

Type one line MN will pick at one word a whole paragraph MN will pick at one line.

berksandbeyond · 05/05/2024 20:42

earther · 05/05/2024 20:34

I`m aware of the spelling it was my point and it proved a point.

Type one line MN will pick at one word a whole paragraph MN will pick at one line.

Of course it was 😂

earther · 05/05/2024 20:43

berksandbeyond · 05/05/2024 20:42

Of course it was 😂

It was do have good evening.

fuckityfuckityfuckfuck · 05/05/2024 21:04

earther · 05/05/2024 19:21

Ive never been vaccinated not even as a baby.
Im very healthy nothing wrong with me.
My two children only ever had 1 jab when they were born that was it now adults never had any problems or the flu /bugs only one had a cold once for a few days.
Everyone to their own.

So you've benefitted from herd immunity because the majority of the population are were vaccinated. But now vaccine uptake has reduced and there have been recent outbreaks of fatal diseases like measles, TB, mumps, you are perfectly happy to risk your children's lives?

How would you live with yourself if your child died because you were too ignorant to get them a quick little vaccine?

earther · 05/05/2024 21:18

fuckityfuckityfuckfuck · 05/05/2024 21:04

So you've benefitted from herd immunity because the majority of the population are were vaccinated. But now vaccine uptake has reduced and there have been recent outbreaks of fatal diseases like measles, TB, mumps, you are perfectly happy to risk your children's lives?

How would you live with yourself if your child died because you were too ignorant to get them a quick little vaccine?

I have an opinion like anyone else.
But i dont think you should be asking me or anyone how they would feel if their child dies when you dont know that person thats ignorant of you.

My feeling towards my first born and only daughter will always be with me she passed at 6 months 8/7/2002.
So please dont ask anyone how they will feel if their child dies some of us already know how it feels.

YouAreLiveOnTelevisionPleaseDoNotSwear · 05/05/2024 22:05

earther · 05/05/2024 19:21

Ive never been vaccinated not even as a baby.
Im very healthy nothing wrong with me.
My two children only ever had 1 jab when they were born that was it now adults never had any problems or the flu /bugs only one had a cold once for a few days.
Everyone to their own.

They haven't had any problems (yet) because of other responsible parents vaccinating their own children, thus helping to keep your off spring safe.

timewach · 05/05/2024 22:18

I dont think anyone in my family has been vaccinated.

cannaecookrisotto · 05/05/2024 22:25

Yes I vaccinate. Because I want to protect my child from potentially fatal preventable diseases.

And to protect other children who are immunocompromised that may not be able to have the vaccine for medical reasons.

Herd immunity.

The list goes on.

fuckityfuckityfuckfuck · 05/05/2024 22:32

earther · 05/05/2024 21:18

I have an opinion like anyone else.
But i dont think you should be asking me or anyone how they would feel if their child dies when you dont know that person thats ignorant of you.

My feeling towards my first born and only daughter will always be with me she passed at 6 months 8/7/2002.
So please dont ask anyone how they will feel if their child dies some of us already know how it feels.

As do I. I know how it feels to lose a child. And I know if there was anything I could have done to prevent it, I would have. It took me years of therapy to convince me there was nothing I could have done to prevent it. I was suicidal for years even having followed all medical advice with my DS. I know I could not have got through that if there was even a shadow of a doubt I'd done something wrong or ignored some medical advice. So yea, I don't believe anyone can refuse vaccines for their child, have their child catch preventable disease because of their neglect and actually come through functioning the other end.

Hateliars34 · 06/05/2024 02:59

earther · 05/05/2024 21:18

I have an opinion like anyone else.
But i dont think you should be asking me or anyone how they would feel if their child dies when you dont know that person thats ignorant of you.

My feeling towards my first born and only daughter will always be with me she passed at 6 months 8/7/2002.
So please dont ask anyone how they will feel if their child dies some of us already know how it feels.

But if everyone thought like you, the death rate in children would shoot right up. Of course we should be asking those questions.

The only reason irresponsible idiots like you can go about happily avoiding vaccinating their kids is that the majority of kids do get vaccinated so provide herd immunity.

Selfish ignorant awful people who don't participate for no good reason and spread misinformation should be judged as so, and their kids should not be allowed in schools.

Lengokengo · 06/05/2024 03:16

My mother failed to vaccinate me (70s child) due to moving house/ forgetting/ older children being priority / me not really mattering much.

i have a lifelong condition as a result of getting one of the diseases I should have been vaccinated against. I consider this to be a direct result of her neglect.

i am low contact with her now.

LipstickedPowderedAndPainted · 06/05/2024 03:24

We've had all vaccinations that are suitable, both adults and children.
I don't want my children or myself to become ill or possibly have life altering side effects from conditions which many pepole have forgotten how serious they are/can be. If you can avoid jumping into the lions den if an illness u don't understand why you wouldn't.

I wonder how many anti vaxxers Would go and stay in a malaria hot-spot for example, without anti malarials, with out insect repellent and with no mosquito nets because to me that's the same as being an unvaccinated person in the minefield of illnesses going around .

A cut can equal tetanus and death just from doing some everyday activity. people are mad if they think this can never apply to them or their children and not have them vaccinated. Pepole are used to very few serious cases if death or disability from commonly vaccinated conditions so have lost sight of their potential seriousness. Go to developing countries and see how pepole have been affected then say is OK not to vaccinate, pretty sure opinions might change when pepole were forced to face their decisions by looking at the real human effects not media spin and conspiracy theories.

Italianita · 06/05/2024 08:06

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earther · 06/05/2024 08:21

Hateliars34 · 06/05/2024 02:59

But if everyone thought like you, the death rate in children would shoot right up. Of course we should be asking those questions.

The only reason irresponsible idiots like you can go about happily avoiding vaccinating their kids is that the majority of kids do get vaccinated so provide herd immunity.

Selfish ignorant awful people who don't participate for no good reason and spread misinformation should be judged as so, and their kids should not be allowed in schools.

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You dont have to be rude.
Name calling makes you sound like an idiot dont be that person.

Dollenganger333 · 06/05/2024 08:32

I watched a recent interview with a doctor from the US who has seen unvaccinated children who had to have limbs amputated because of diseases they weren't vaccinated against. He said that after that, he would never not vaccinate his own children.

People who don't vaccinate usually have poor mental health (explains the paranoia). I'm not talking about people who have vaccine damage in their family btw. That would be a reasonable time not to vaccinate.

My daughter's dad is unaware that she's had any vaccines at all. Luckily, my GP will do vaccinations if the parent with care takes the child in and signs the consent. So he doesn't know about it.

YouAreLiveOnTelevisionPleaseDoNotSwear · 06/05/2024 08:38

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As do I. I know how it feels to lose a child. And I know if there was anything I could have done to prevent it, I would have. It took me years of therapy to convince me there was nothing I could have done to prevent it. I was suicidal for years even having followed all medical advice with my DS. I know I could not have got through that if there was even a shadow of a doubt I'd done something wrong or ignored some medical advice. So yea, I don't believe anyone can refuse vaccines for their child, have their child catch preventable disease because of their neglect and actually come through functioning the other end.'

@fuckityfuckityfuckfuck

I'm the exact same. I lost my precious baby, but my DD who is with me now, I'll do anything and everything in my power to protect her from potentially fatal diseases and that includes vaccinating her, not relying on other parents who sensibly vaccinate their children to leave mine unvaccinated.

I'm so sorry for your loss. ❤️

Medschoolmum · 06/05/2024 08:45

earther · 05/05/2024 19:21

Ive never been vaccinated not even as a baby.
Im very healthy nothing wrong with me.
My two children only ever had 1 jab when they were born that was it now adults never had any problems or the flu /bugs only one had a cold once for a few days.
Everyone to their own.

I really don't agree that this is one of those "each to their own" issues. It is incredibly selfish not to vaccinate your children if they can be vaccinated, as it puts both them and those that cannot be vaccinated at greater risk.

Parents who choose not to vaccinate are typically making that choice from a position of ignorance, often because they have read a load of conspiracy theories/pseudo science that they don't have the analytical skills to properly interrogate. They are letting their own kids down, and they are failing in their civic duty as well.

The fact that you and your children have been lucky is irrelevant. Not everyone will be.

Personally, I think the failure to vaccinate should trigger a social services referral. It's a form of neglect, and children deserve better.

berksandbeyond · 06/05/2024 08:45

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What on earth could there possibly be to be jealous of?

If I wanted to not vaccinate my child, I could have had a lobotomy done that. That poster had said absolutely nothing that anyone would be jealous of. People need to stop kidding themselves with this ‘they’re just jealous of my life’ thing because it’s almost as deluded as thinking children don’t need vaccinated

timewach · 06/05/2024 09:32

Medschoolmum · 06/05/2024 08:45

I really don't agree that this is one of those "each to their own" issues. It is incredibly selfish not to vaccinate your children if they can be vaccinated, as it puts both them and those that cannot be vaccinated at greater risk.

Parents who choose not to vaccinate are typically making that choice from a position of ignorance, often because they have read a load of conspiracy theories/pseudo science that they don't have the analytical skills to properly interrogate. They are letting their own kids down, and they are failing in their civic duty as well.

The fact that you and your children have been lucky is irrelevant. Not everyone will be.

Personally, I think the failure to vaccinate should trigger a social services referral. It's a form of neglect, and children deserve better.

Personally, I think the failure to vaccinate should trigger a social services referral. It's a form of neglect, and children deserve better.
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Italianita · 06/05/2024 09:38

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