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Does any one ditched vaccines completely?

147 replies

Saku · 27/12/2018 00:56

in UK or any where else also ..just that question..
and if your have avoided them then how are your children or you getting on ...?

Thanks

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Are your children’s vaccines up to date?
expatmigrant · 27/12/2018 20:23

I have just spent 17 years in developing and third world countries and have witnessed very tragic deaths and conditions due to children not being vaccinated.
Parents really need to look further than the vaccination system in the UK before they decide not to get their children vaccinated.

ChristmasSprite · 27/12/2018 23:09
CesiraAndEnrico · 27/12/2018 23:26

There was a time-a couple of years ago- when coconut oil was being pushed as a healthy fat. Not sure why-some marketing exercise, I suppose. Then it was revealed that it was actually higher in the “unhealthy” fats than any of the others. Which made those of us who are cynical about “alternative” food and stuff snigger rather.

That fad has always been a bit of a left fielder for me. I lived in Thailand decades ago. There was a big, middle classed health kick going on the whole time I was there. Everybody was banging on about avoiding coconut oil in things because of the issue with it causing high cholesterol. I'm still not sure how The Coconut Is The Chosen One got off the ground over here in Europe a quarter of a century later. It's not like its nutritional content was a great unknown lost in time. I'm old. But not that bleeding old.

And why do you think vaccines caused ADHD??? That’s just bizarre!

It's a thing.

A lot of ADHD resources appear to have addressed the claim, in the same way ASD resources have had to do over the years. It seems quite a few claims are focused on fears about Thimerosal again. Also spreading to OCD, Bipolar, Alzhiemers, Dyslexia and Anorexia.

Queenofthedrivensnow · 27/12/2018 23:38

Re the would we ostracise a non jabbed imuno compromised child? I think the answer to that is that their parents (think there is one on the thread) probably have to work really hard to keep them away from other non jabbed kids due to the health risk. Which is a bit crap for them.

triballeader · 28/12/2018 13:31

Queenofthedrivensnow - yes I still have to keep my youngest daughter away from possible sources of life threatening illnesses.

Mostly she has just been really poorly. The way her wonky immune system turbo charged up both chicken-pox; so most of her class at school caught it from her and where then off for weeks with eye complications- and then measles; when Health Protection(Notification) Regulations kicked in insisted she was in home isolation and we had no visitors to our home for four weeks. Any virus with her wonky immune system can be brewed up into something very nasty. That is how she gave her dad who had had measles before a heamorhagic rash version that damaged his eyes, liver and left scaring where it had been at its worst.

I dread to think what could happen to the wider child population if she ever caught either diptheria or polio. This is why herd immunity from vaccination really matters for all of us not just those few kids with surpressed and strange immune systems.

PaulHollywoodsSexGut · 28/12/2018 13:46

Look, I’m going to be absolutely fucking patronising here, and I am sorry.

I don’t know zip about your origins or cultural background. I don’t know if you grew up in the West or elsewhere in the world where perhaps there are “scarier things” easily communicable - say malaria, dengue etc.

For most of Europe, the US and Aus/NZ the prevailing culturally normal and responsible thing to do is to vaccinate the children. This is to protect the children against the risk that they may fall victim to the disease they have to be vaccinated against as it is so rare nowadays and that is usually because it’s preventable.

Don’t listen to friends scare stories and don’t assume your son has “caught” ADHD...it really really doesn’t work like that.

The short answer is that here it is encumber in parents to exercise a responsibility to their child and the public health of all by getting a serious yet preventable illness vaccinated against.

MadameJosephine · 02/01/2019 10:34

It’s clear from your comments about gestational diabetes that you don’t understand the concept of risk. I’d recommend that you stay off the internet and take the advice of properly trained and educated health professionals and vaccinate your children.

Eastie77 · 09/01/2019 10:25

@FlashByReputation & @Pandamodium I think my question was unclear. I was asking the posters who are parents of vaccinated children and who said they would never knowingly allow their child near an unvaccinated child. I was asking if they would extend that ban to include children who cannot be vaccinated for health reasons.

FTMF30 · 13/01/2019 16:08

It's quite hysterical how heated people get over someone thinking critically and not just simply acting on biaseda information fed to them.

There is genuine reasoning for being apprehensive about vaccinations. Vaccination injuries are real and can be devastating. People act like it's just old wives tales that kids can be damaged by vaccines yet there is a whole page on the government website on claiming compensation for vaccine injuries 🤔.

OP, one thing I would say though, it's no use asking how unvaccinated children are getting on now. They could be fine today and catch a disease tomorrow. There's no situation where you're in the clear if you don't vaccinate. You'll be susceptible to the diseases forever. You just have to weigh up whether you want to live a life scared your child will catch a disease or get them vaxed and worry about vaccine injury.

LondonJax · 13/01/2019 16:34

One of my mum's sister's died, aged 10, from diphtheria back in the 1930's. There was no vaccine until the 1940s. Her sister died in agony, not being able to swallow. My mum was sent to her friend's house because diphtheria is so contagious. Mum remembers the doctor running down the street yelling 'Mrs X, get the children out of the house, get them out'.

My aunt (though I never obviously knew her) died because her best friend, unbeknown to everyone including herself, was a carrier. She never became ill but a test showed she was carrying diphtheria. They had shared an ice cream a week or so before my aunt became ill. Can you imagine how that poor child felt?

My mum had all of us vaccinated and we've done the same with our children.

The mum of one of my son's friends is profoundly deaf in one ear and has learning difficulties which she was told was a result of contracting measles when she was ten. Up until then she was hitting all her development milestones.

You may well find people who haven't vaccinated who have healthy children. It doesn't mean they will stay healthy (fingers crossed they do) though so the conversation is a little pointless. It's a bit like asking 'does anyone know someone who's lived a long life whilst smoking 60 a day'. We can probably all find someone, somewhere who fits - but would we do it ourselves...

Ihaventgottimeforthis · 14/01/2019 11:29

Just asking for anecdotes will not help you make the right decision. Vaccination is about probabilities. You will always be able to find individual experiences that are good AND bad.

Please vaccinate. Not just for your children, but for everybody elses' children too.

DNAP · 16/01/2019 09:40

Aside from my daughter being immune deficient, which makes the prospect of mingling amongst the unvaccinated few..riskier than most, I myself developed whooping cough as a baby, and was in critical care for weeks. I have encountered a couple of anti-vaccers at school, and they clearly had no idea what they were talking about.

Madratlady · 16/01/2019 09:46

If you don’t put your children in car seats in the car they’d likely be fine. Unless you crashed. Same principal - chances are your child would be fine unless there was a measles outbreak (or similar) in which case they could end up dead or with life altering disabilities if they caught it. And these diseases are becoming more prevalent as a result of anti vax nonsense.

JellycatElfie · 16/01/2019 13:10

I worked for 5 years as a research nurse in the nhs. We were approached by pharmaceutical companies wanting to trial new drugs. The number of huge checks and approvals we had to have in place before we could even entertain the idea of opening the trial was immense. It could sometimes take years. Then there was the rigorous exclusion and inclusion criteria for patients. And you would NOT believe the work that goes into a trial of a new drug. We had to report every thing. Every little thing. Like if someone got more spots, or a cold sore, or got hit by a bus - it all had to be reported to the company. I can categorically say there’s no conspiracy theories regarding drugs offered by the nhs. If there was a slight chance it was linked to autism or adhd it wouldn’t be offered by the nhs - the last thing they want is to spend more money treating a condition they’ve caused!!

MyOtherProfile · 16/01/2019 13:46

@JellycatElfie you deserve a medal for that post.

JellycatElfie · 16/01/2019 15:37

Thanks - it’s the truth!

Fontofnoknowledge · 16/01/2019 16:05

Perhaps OP, like me, you need to go and work in a refugee camp in South East Asia for 8 yrs. where there WAS routine MMR and BCG vaccination programs once safely in camp but sadly nothing available to the general population outside.
Therefore , routinely our mothers have birth to deaf dumb blind children (as though being born in a war zone wasn't enough) as mother had contracted rubella in pregnancy. Measles leaving toddlers profoundly deaf and /or blind was common place.
Our camps weren't huge by UN standards . 2/3k people but one outbreak of measles amongst unvaccinated population resulted on average with 5 deaths (and life. Changing disability).

I can barely remain civil to the people who wish to argue the toss on vaccination. It really isn't something to debate if you have children. It is a civil duty and I would be hugely in favour of hefty fines for anyone who doesn't protect their own child and in turn the children of others.
Don't forget vaccination is only 97%. If your child gets it because you CHOSE to let them, and they infected my child who was unlucky enough to be in the 3% .. I would want a charge of deliberately infecting my child with a life threatening disease levelled against you.

Ucangourownwoo · 16/01/2019 18:19

I wasn’t allowed to go back to uni studying teaching until I was well enough to be revaccinated due to the risks in schools. That says it all for me.

Ucangourownwoo · 16/01/2019 18:20

Ps if you’re thinking about not vaccination your kids: don’t be so fucking stupid and selfish.

WorriedMum11 · 16/01/2019 18:23

OP are you trying to incite anger?
Plenty of threads on vaccination on MN - just read them.

NataliaOsipova · 16/01/2019 18:33

It's up to you to do your own research and then decide what is right

Unless you’re a medical professional, or have an advanced understanding of medical statistics, you’re very unlikely to understand the research that has already been done. Do your own research? A proper, peer reviewed study? You’d need millions to do it.

Unless what you mean by doing your own research is reading some stuff on the internet....

JarlBalgruuf · 16/01/2019 20:50

Not sure if anyone has said this, but the study that claims to show that vaccines cause autism was funded by anti vaxers. It was discredited and the doctor who carried it out was struck off.
My ex husband didnt want our baby to be vaccinated but now that we have split up I'm getting them done.
No point taking the risk of him dying from some Victorian disease in my opinion.
And also consider that if they did get ill, even if they survived, they might have lifelong complications. Do you really want to be responsible for that? Do you think they would thank you for that?

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