Does any one ditched vaccines completely?

[Saku]

in UK or any where else also ..just that question..
and if your have avoided them then how are your children or you getting on ...?

Thanks

my first child had a bad reaction to his first immunisations and so all the rest of his were administered in hospital by a consultant immunologist. The schedule was broken down and tailored to him specifically. he finished having them when he was almost 4.
My oyungest son followed the same regime as he had the same inherited issue.
Regardless of all the problems, they both had all their vaccines because they save lives. I didn't want my children to die from a horrible preventable disease.
My youngest is not immune to diptheria because the vaccine didn't 'take' and as it can only be given alongside another vaccine, it was more dangerous for him to have the vaccine. That decision was made by a specialist though.

he will have the booster in his late teens when he is more robust.

A parent at my DC's school did not have her son vaccinated. She thinks it causes autism.

Her healthy, happy son caught mumps. As a result of that he is now fully deaf and moving to a specialist school once a place becomes available.

It's very sad. The child had no choice in whether to have the protective vaccination. His mother thought she knew best because she googled it and believed some dubious (proven fake) research findings. And now he is living the consequences of her arrogance. Take the advice of the NHS and reputable scientists.

Not vaccinating your child is neglect. Anti-vaxxers spew misinformation in online forums to a false sense of importance for themselves in some pseudoscience circle jerk. Research is done at a lab bench not behind a computer screen.

My grandmother (in her thirties) and two of her children (my uncles, aged 3 and 6) all died of tuberculosis within weeks of one another.

My best friend at school caught measles. She passed it to her brother who had mumps at the time. He is both deaf and infertile as a direct result of those illnesses.

I have had whooping cough as an adult. It was hell, and lasted nearly 6 months. I can understand how it can be fatal for babies and small children, elderly people and those with other medical conditions.

Anyone who doesn't get their child vaccinated is a complete raving nutcase in my opinion.

sigh IF your child can have the vaccines please consider letting them have it.

In doing so you will be protecting herd immunity for the few kids who are as unlucky as mine [severe IUGR, severe failure to thrive + the ever ongoing treatment for benign bone tumors] On sound medical advice she has not been able to have most vaccines and it is terryifying to think she could pick up something that could prove to be really lethal.
She did pick up measles- she was very ill. Sadly her wonky immune system soupped the virus up. She gave it her father.

He had to be admitted to a Negative Pressure Unit inside a Regional Isolation Unit. He nearly died. He was so infectious and so poorly no-one could visit. He was off work for months and has been left with premanantly damaged eyesight and physical scars from where the rash was so bad he heamoraghed through his skin.

Telling someone you love that it is okay for them to stop fighting from a preventable disease and die if they want to on anyone.

ammendum: if they want to I would not wish on anyone.

OP causation and correlation are not the same thing.

I'll share the practical thing I did with my children. I vaccinated them.

My mum cleverly skipped getting me the measles vaccine. As a result I got a bad case of measles that left me with a permanent 30% hearing loss. That was really helpful when I started school and couldn't hear the teachers and wearing hearings aids is so attractive and stylish.

Measles Complications

Thanks Mum!

I recently cared for a patient who had encephalitis from a preventable infection.
She got brain damage, deteriorated slowly then tragically died.

People can get encephalitis from Measles & other infections.

It's actually very wrong to knowingly expose a child to that.

My mum didn’t vaccinate me... I had no idea until I started a course in nursing and had to get my MMR before going out on placement as otherwise I wouldn’t be able to work on the wards- both for my own safety and safety of others.

I’m never sure whether the anti-vaccine brigade are thick or bonkers.

This.

Or just trying to wind us all up.

Thanks everyone for your views .
There are so many negative bad experiences and not a single positive experience. I will rather get my children immunisation and hope second dc will be alright and not get any bad effect.

As I said I am not here to overrule other/different opinions. But to get the best decision for my children.. first dc is already suffering a lot I dont want same for second one .. who is under weight because doctors didnt allow me to eat full meal.

Cadburyssurpriseegg here you find this New research coconut oil is poison

We had a child in at work who lives in Africa, dad works in the UK abs brought him over for healthcare. He almost lost his leg due to a disease eradicated in this country by vaccination.

I’m never sure whether the anti-vaccine brigade are thick or bonkers.

This again. I can’t agree more.

Saku what do you mean? No positive experiences? Like what?

Are you really looking for someone who didn’t vaccinate and their kids are ok? Is that it? Truly I don’t understand!

And why do you think vaccines caused ADHD??? That’s just bizarre!

And as for your underweight baby - what has his weight now got to do with what you were allowed to eat in pregnancy??????

When my dad was 5 (1930s) he lost his mum and 2 siblings to TB. When my mum was little (1950s) she lost her eldest sister to polio and her other sister was paralysed by it. As a child (1970s) I had measles, ruebella, whooping cough and mumps. I feel like I never recovered fully from mumps and have suffered from chronic fatigue my whole life on the back of it.

My kids were first in the queue for every vaccine available to them.

Vaccinations didn't cause your child to have ADHD

Not eating a full meal during pregnancy didn't cause your baby to be underweight.

Please stop getting medical advice off Google. You aren't qualified to interpret what you're reading.

Please vaccinate your children.

I'm pretty old. There weren't the range if vaccines available. I was lucky, diphtheria vaccine was available, but I severely reacted to it, so couldn't have the second jab. But all the other kids had it so I didn't get it. I got measles at three, on board ship and it swept through the children. Several had to be put ashore due to complications. I again was ok. I was coming down with mumps at a family wedding, one of the groomsman hadn't had it, he caught it and was sterile after. Then at 9 I got whooping cough. I almost died.
Here's your positive story op, I vaccinated all my kids. None died, none are disabled or sterile. You're either here to stir, disingenuous or genuinely confused. Not sure which.

@Saku Are you vaccinated? Is your child's father? Are you both fine?

My DH was not vaccinated. He got measles & is deaf now, because of it.

Friend one also not vaccinated, she had whooping cough as a child, was ill all her life, couldn't fly, travel & has just died a slow and painful death

Friend two not vaccinated, got TB as a child. Crippled by it and will be for her whole life. Will probably die prematurely.

they said coconut oil is divine.. and now they are saying it is similar to poison.

Which highly reputable source ever said coconut was divine?

Karin Michels called coconut oil poison because it's high in saturated fat. On that basis, butter, lard, bacon, cheese, spare ribs... are also full of 'poison'.

KM called coconut oil poison because eating saturated fats raises levels of LDL (the 'bad' cholesterol). Other things that raise your LDL are eating hydrog'd-fats, obesity, getting older, family history & sedentary lifestyles. Life is pretty poisonous, I suppose.

as for Diabetes they (every big trust worthy media) said 'statin' is "SAFE".. but after 10 years they say 'statin' developed heart diseases and heart attacks.

What reputable source says that statins cause more heart diseases/attacks than they prevent? Mind, Brit Med Journal has loudly questioned when should statins be used for as long as I can remember. T2 diabetics are susceptible to heart & liver disease so have to weigh risks differently from rest of us.

Our DD has ASD and learning disabilities. She is up to date with all her jabs. Nobody else in our family have been diagnosed with ASD. Her ASD became more obvious round about the time she completed her immunisations.

They two things (jabs & ASD) are NOT connected.
It's just that by the time the jabs were finished her developmental progress was easier to assess. It's that simple.

If we were intending to have more children we would absolutely get them vaccinated.

I understand you want to find a cause for your child's difficulties - but random people on the internet is not the way to do it.

This is the way I see it. To get to study medicine you have to be really really bloody clever. I mean almost straight A* (or whatever it is now) clever. These are the same geniuses who could go make a million elsewhere. They then have to put themselves through the best part of a decade of gruelling study and work. They have to really want to make people well to put themselves through this. Ask any doctor, the really clever folk with access to proper peer reviewed study - which they even understand - what you should do.

Ask any doctor, the really clever folk with access to proper peer reviewed study - which they even understand - what you should do.

Or if the doctor is busy you can always have a word with the nurse about it.

There was a time-a couple of years ago- when coconut oil was being pushed as a healthy fat. Not sure why-some marketing exercise, I suppose. Then it was revealed that it was actually higher in the “unhealthy” fats than any of the others. Which made those of us who are cynical about “alternative” food and stuff snigger rather.