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Anyone else sometimes get a wave of relief that they don’t have children?

465 replies

knowifIcando · 08/06/2025 17:05

I’m in my late 30s and have known I think for a long time that I didn’t want kids. I’ve never really actively thought about it although now and then wonder if I’ll regret it.

And then I have moments like today. I’ve been at my sister’s house and my nieces are lovely, gorgeous kids but then she started talking to them about how they had to get their uniforms sorted for school, get the homework done and have baths and I felt such a feeling of relief that I had decided not to have them and could return to my peaceful home.

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UnderratedCabbage · 14/06/2025 08:51

How are we having 2 posters taking a mick on one thread😂 that has to be a record so far

Greenfields20 · 14/06/2025 08:55

Neurodiversitydoctor · 14/06/2025 08:36

Yes I think I am just making the point it's not either/or. Being a parent doesn't preclude country walks, sports or anything else really, with the probable exeption of extensive last minute travelling once DC are school age. If however having others living in your personal space both physical and mental is extremely difficult for you then I think parenthood might be very nearly unbearable epecially for women.

I'm sure she is perfectly aware people with kids can go for walks 🤣🤦‍♀️

Neurodiversitydoctor · 14/06/2025 09:21

Greenfields20 · 14/06/2025 08:55

I'm sure she is perfectly aware people with kids can go for walks 🤣🤦‍♀️

😂

Neurodiversitydoctor · 14/06/2025 09:28

Greenfields20 · 14/06/2025 08:47

So had she ever expressed a desire for children in the time they were together?

I haven't a clue, I have always thought it isn't terribly polite to ask. I do know though they only decided to go for it about 18 months before she was born so aged 48 and 42.

Greenfields20 · 14/06/2025 09:45

Neurodiversitydoctor · 14/06/2025 09:28

I haven't a clue, I have always thought it isn't terribly polite to ask. I do know though they only decided to go for it about 18 months before she was born so aged 48 and 42.

What sort of offensive names did he used to call children?

Neurodiversitydoctor · 14/06/2025 10:09

Greenfields20 · 14/06/2025 09:45

What sort of offensive names did he used to call children?

Crotch goblins, rug rats, brats. Also called us " breeders" was alway full of how he could never do that, looks like a nightmare etc etc.

Greenfields20 · 14/06/2025 10:13

Neurodiversitydoctor · 14/06/2025 10:09

Crotch goblins, rug rats, brats. Also called us " breeders" was alway full of how he could never do that, looks like a nightmare etc etc.

Oh well hopefully he did change his mind then!

KimberleyClark · 14/06/2025 10:16

Neurodiversitydoctor · 14/06/2025 10:09

Crotch goblins, rug rats, brats. Also called us " breeders" was alway full of how he could never do that, looks like a nightmare etc etc.

What do you think changed his mind? Was it the thought his partner might leave him if he didn’t give her a baby?

Neurodiversitydoctor · 14/06/2025 10:16

Greenfields20 · 14/06/2025 10:13

Oh well hopefully he did change his mind then!

Yes I think so he is an incredibly devoted father. I have to say I am less sure of his wife, she is rather hands off, but you can't really tell from the outside can you ?

Neurodiversitydoctor · 14/06/2025 10:17

and the baby is such a sweetie, sleeps long hours, relatvely compliant- just adorable but cheeky with it.

IHateWasps · 14/06/2025 10:18

Why is this thread yet again becoming about someone’s decision to have children instead of its original purpose?

Neurodiversitydoctor · 14/06/2025 10:20

IHateWasps · 14/06/2025 10:18

Why is this thread yet again becoming about someone’s decision to have children instead of its original purpose?

Because you know conversation evolves maybe.....

Greenfields20 · 14/06/2025 10:22

Neurodiversitydoctor · 14/06/2025 10:16

Yes I think so he is an incredibly devoted father. I have to say I am less sure of his wife, she is rather hands off, but you can't really tell from the outside can you ?

No you cant tell much from the outside

KimberleyClark · 14/06/2025 10:22

UnderratedCabbage · 14/06/2025 08:51

How are we having 2 posters taking a mick on one thread😂 that has to be a record so far

Edited

I think SunflowersandSangria and Neurodiversitydoctor are working shifts on here.

IHateWasps · 14/06/2025 10:23

Neurodiversitydoctor · 14/06/2025 10:20

Because you know conversation evolves maybe.....

Yes but a childfree thread should not become all about parents and their offspring. I don’t know why you’re here either other than to berate us and tell us how amazing children apparently are which is lovely for you but not germane to the thread.

IHateWasps · 14/06/2025 10:23

KimberleyClark · 14/06/2025 10:22

I think SunflowersandSangria and Neurodiversitydoctor are working shifts on here.

It appears so.

Greenfields20 · 14/06/2025 10:25

IHateWasps · 14/06/2025 10:18

Why is this thread yet again becoming about someone’s decision to have children instead of its original purpose?

Hopefully not long to go now

Neurodiversitydoctor · 14/06/2025 10:34

IHateWasps · 14/06/2025 10:23

Yes but a childfree thread should not become all about parents and their offspring. I don’t know why you’re here either other than to berate us and tell us how amazing children apparently are which is lovely for you but not germane to the thread.

Not my child and "all about" is a massive exaggeration. Is it wrong to say that children can be a source of joy and not just to their parents ?

EmpressaurusKitty · 14/06/2025 10:37

Neurodiversitydoctor · 14/06/2025 10:34

Not my child and "all about" is a massive exaggeration. Is it wrong to say that children can be a source of joy and not just to their parents ?

It’s not relevant on a thread where people are talking about the benefits of not having kids.

Yes, I enjoy spending time with the kids in my family occasionally - but I also get joy from knowing I don’t have to live with kids.

IHateWasps · 14/06/2025 10:42

Neurodiversitydoctor · 14/06/2025 10:34

Not my child and "all about" is a massive exaggeration. Is it wrong to say that children can be a source of joy and not just to their parents ?

I know that it’s not your child though I have no more interest in your niece than I do your own children. And no one said that they can’t bring joy, to parents who actively wanted them. The question is WTF has that got to do with anything on a Mumsnetters Without Children forum? It’s irrelevant. And again why are you here? Your sole purpose seems to be to derail the thread and make it into a pro children one instead. It’d be like me posting all about the joys of hotels on a dedicated camping thread.

KimberleyClark · 14/06/2025 10:48

Neurodiversitydoctor · 14/06/2025 10:34

Not my child and "all about" is a massive exaggeration. Is it wrong to say that children can be a source of joy and not just to their parents ?

Not having children is a source of joy to child free people yet we get accused of being gloating and insensitive if we say so.

GiveMeWordGames · 14/06/2025 10:48

Oh yes, @Neurodiversitydoctor is up to exactly the same thing as @SunflowersandSangria but is just attempting to be more subtle about it. Asking less obviously leading questions, carefully not getting a cob on, faux empathy....😴

Ignore ignore ignore! Especially the disingenuous questions.

GiveMeWordGames · 14/06/2025 11:01

Oh, ignoring reminds me. Another thing that I have been able to let pass me by my whole adult life is the cyclical news/policy/controversy/wailing about schools, school holidays, holiday pricing, fines, key stages, SATs, exam results, Ofsted, catchment, private versus state....

And soft play is an entirely theoretical concept to me..😁

Just an entire category of tiresomeness that I have never needed to give a moment's thought to, other than knowing when NOT to go on holiday or enjoying rush hour trains being lovely and quiet.

CleanShirt · 14/06/2025 11:44

KimberleyClark · 14/06/2025 10:22

I think SunflowersandSangria and Neurodiversitydoctor are working shifts on here.

I've never seen them in the same room 🤔

Greenfields20 · 14/06/2025 11:48

GiveMeWordGames · 14/06/2025 10:48

Oh yes, @Neurodiversitydoctor is up to exactly the same thing as @SunflowersandSangria but is just attempting to be more subtle about it. Asking less obviously leading questions, carefully not getting a cob on, faux empathy....😴

Ignore ignore ignore! Especially the disingenuous questions.

The doctor will get bored soon. I dont know what she is hoping to achieve with her posts anyway. There have been a few questions put back on her which she has chosen not to answer or can't answer.

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